Yeah,I tried to compare the 2 minus Chara. Even if we didn't have to minus our best D as well (I'm guessing it's Petry? )
Seidenberg>Petry
Boychuck>Smid
Ferrence>N.Schultz
j.Schultz=Hamilton (it's close,anyway)
Dog sh!t>Fistric,Potter
- Jeropotato

Well it's close at least

EDM desperately needs a #1D, but I don't think they need the Letang type. They've got Schultz, and he'll develop into a top pairing guy on the right side. Another RH offensive minded top pairing guy isn't what EDM really needs but he'd be welcomed for sure.

Any ideas what these deals are that MacT pulled off?
- TheNugeIsHuge

Letang is pretty strong defensively too. People don't seem to realize. He plays ample PK, doesn't get scored on as much as other offensive minded guys, blocks a lot of shots, faces a lot of tough opposition according to CORSI. He's a lot better than most seem to realize. He's a two way guy.

ATB would be happy.
- Jeropotato

I think they are in on it.....

No.Rask is a good goalie, but he does benefit from Chara and co in front of him. If there is an NHL D that could expose Rask as being nothing more than above average,it's Edmontons.
- Jeropotato

Agreed. I have a feeling Dubs would look pretty good hiding behind Chara and co. Maybe not Conn Smythe good, but darn good.

yeah i would assume that the deal would hinge on letang being signed long term in order to make it worth it for either side.
- stayinthefnnet

I understand why Letang is being mentioned, but what exactly is the replacement plan?

errr?
- AdamFrench

well... only 10

Rumor is that NYI wants Hemsky. I think Nino would be the return for him. I think there will be more things switching sides that just a straight up trade but this seems like the most plausible rumor I have heard.
- bsteinley

Yep. One reclamation project for another. (Hemsky would look good feeding JT and Moulson one timers on the PP.)

EDM desperately needs a #1D, but I don't think they need the Letang type. They've got Schultz, and he'll develop into a top pairing guy on the right side. Another RH offensive minded top pairing guy isn't what EDM really needs but he'd be welcomed for sure.

Any ideas what these deals are that MacT pulled off?
- TheNugeIsHuge

I don't think they are Block Busters, but simply that he has found takers for Hemmer and Horc. Combined we should be happy if we get a veteran bottom pair D,3rd line winger,4th line C. But I suspect one of those and a couple 3rd round picks are more likely.
We have to keep in mind that there are probably more than a few teams that have buyout candidates similar to those guys, and they would all rather make a trade then spend their owners money fixing a mistake. There might be a fit there somewhere.

I think they are in on it.....
- The-O-G

I like Giordano...buut Ebs is a bit too rich a price for his services,I think.
BTW, does Eberle live in Calgary in the off season? WTF?

Yeah,I tried to compare the 2 minus Chara. Even if we didn't have to minus our best D as well (I'm guessing it's Petry? )
Seidenberg>Petry
Boychuck>Smid
Ferrence>N.Schultz
j.Schultz=Hamilton (it's close,anyway)
Dog sh!t>Fistric,Potter
- Jeropotato

I stand by what I said. I think Seidenberg, Ferrence and Hamilton are only good because their team makes them look good. Boychuck had potential. If we had their goalie and offense people would think our dmen were awesome.

Chara > Justin
Seidenberg < Smid
Boychuck < Petry
Ferrence < Nick
Hamilton could be better than Belov or Klefbom, neither have played yet
Redden < "dog sh!t"

You don't have to agree but our d is not as bad you think. IMO it is Rask that makes up the difference. Plus their deep offense allows for more defensive points.

Yep. One reclamation project for another. (Hemsky would look good feeding JT and Moulson one timers on the PP.)
- unkydav

Draft Pedigree or not, if Nino isnt going to play for NYI,they gotta move him. Not sure if I want the poopy pants on the Oilers,however.

Draft Pedigree or not, if Nino isnt going to play for NYI,they gotta move him. Not sure if I want the poopy pants on the Oilers,however.
- Jeropotato

Maybe, but if they did, it wouldn't be for a total salary dump. If they were going to do that, they might as well just keep the kid.

I understand why Letang is being mentioned, but what exactly is the replacement plan?
- Lahey

well, in a cap world, its hard to keep all of these premier guys with huge contracts (not to state the total obvious) so he is most likely going to force the teams hand to move him, or risk losing him for nothing. if it was possible, id definitely rather keep him for a reasonable rate.

however, the team will most likely have to hope that some of the young prospects they have can step up, or they will have to hope for some sort of help to fill the void to come back the other way in the trade. that will probably be tricky though, because if the other team has D to send back, they probably dont have a pressing need for tanger in the first place

I stand by what I said. I think Seidenberg, Ferrence and Hamilton are only good because their team makes them look good. Boychuck had potential. If we had their goalie and offense people would think our dmen were awesome.

Chara > Justin
Seidenberg < Smid
Boychuck < Petry
Ferrence < Nick
Hamilton could be better than Belov or Klefbom, neither have played yet
Redden < "dog sh!t"

You don't have to agree but our d is not as bad you think. IMO it is Rask that makes up the difference. Plus their deep offense allows for more defensive points.
- bsteinley

You are right,we don't have to agree. But I'm sure that some of these others (frank)ers might.

Letang is pretty strong defensively too. People don't seem to realize. He plays ample PK, doesn't get scored on as much as other offensive minded guys, blocks a lot of shots, faces a lot of tough opposition according to CORSI. He's a lot better than most seem to realize. He's a two way guy.
- Dirte

im not saying he is a scrub by any means, but i truly believe letang could be the best Dman in the league if he could fix whats missing between his ears

Maybe, but if they did, it wouldn't be for a total salary dump. If they were going to do that, they might as well just keep the kid.
- Dirte

I wouldn't say Hemmer is a total salary dump. He can still be a productive 1st line player on the right team, IF he can stay healthy. The trade partner would have to have a use for him though.

At least I list my "sources" as internet malarkey.
- Jeropotato

That's why I thought it was so funny. I took it as a bit of a jest at RC's expense. No feelings hurt I hope.

Yep. One reclamation project for another. (Hemsky would look good feeding JT and Moulson one timers on the PP.)
- unkydav

Except one relcamation projects career is close to being done while the other is just a prospect who was thrown into a poopty situation.

Draft Pedigree or not, if Nino isnt going to play for NYI,they gotta move him. Not sure if I want the poopy pants on the Oilers,however.
- Jeropotato

Trade him for Burmistrov then.

That's why I thought it was so funny. I took it as a bit of a jest at RC's expense. No feelings hurt I hope.
- unkydav

Oh,hell no. If anyof us had any real sources we wouldn't be shooting the sh!t on this crappy thread.

I wouldn't say Hemmer is a total salary dump. He can still be a productive 1st line player on the right team, IF he can stay healthy. The trade partner would have to have a use for him though.
- Jeropotato

Those are a lot of "if's" no? Yes, Hemmer could be great in the WHL.... provided....

Mentioned in the other thread, but Terry Jones hinting that MacT has a couple moves done. Just waiting for cup finals to finish. Didn't saying if it was re-signings or signings or minor deals.
- Lahey

Buyouts?

Trade him for Burmistrov then.
- Lahey

Who? Hemmer? I would do that in about 5mins if the Peg was willing.I would still try to get Bogo from them while I had them on the phone though,assuming they didnt hang up.

Buyouts?
- Jack-artist

Could very well be as those can't be done right now anyway.

I wouldn't say Hemmer is a total salary dump. He can still be a productive 1st line player on the right team, IF he can stay healthy. The trade partner would have to have a use for him though.
- Jeropotato

Is he a salary dump on the level, of say, Mike Komisarek, who has a $4M cap hit, and brings no value? No. But he has a $5M cap hit, and brings about $1.5 to $2.0 in value these days. So, it’s a salary dump.

Nino would get a return. Not a big one. Maybe even a late first. Or some other draft picks. But a salary dump for him is not a fair trade.