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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Nino isn't a B level prospect though.

Also Hemsky was getting top 6 time last year.

- Lahey


I wasn't saying for Nino. I'm just saying Hemsky isn't a salary dump. He played well decently last year until he broke his foot blocking a shot n tried to play through it.

Salary dump IMO, means you have to give them an extra asset to take on the contract. Hemsky is still a fine player
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
When he wasnt playing with Horcoff.
- Jeropotato

He was all over the place. Was with Gagner and yak for a chunk as well.

Fact is ES time he was 5th for forwards, overall 6th, PP 5th.

He had time.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Something tells me someone is going to overpay him. Unless he signs cheap to stay in PIT.

The guy sucked this year for a good chunk in Dallas. Not sure I want to get into 3 or 4 year length deals with him. Maybe it was the lockout, but too much risk.

- Lahey


Morrow had 11P in 30 games n got a great prospect and a pick at the deadline. Not out of the question that EDM could get a decent prospect for Hemmer
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Seidenberg and Boychuk are the #2 and #3 D men on the team that may well win the cup in the next week.
I'd say Boychuk n Petry are the closest of the bunch, but edge still goes to Boychuk n the entire BOS roster. You don't have the 3rd least GA in the league by having worse D than the Edmonton Oilers.

- TheNugeIsHuge

GA is largely affected by goaltending and in this case Rask definitely proves that.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
Something tells me someone is going to overpay him. Unless he signs cheap to stay in PIT.

The guy sucked this year for a good chunk in Dallas. Not sure I want to get into 3 or 4 year length deals with him. Maybe it was the lockout, but too much risk.

- Lahey


Yes,$ and term would have to be very,very reasonable. I would make a phone call, but I wouldnt get into a bidding war. 2 years,6 mil about caps it for me.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
GA is largely affected by goaltending and in this case Rask definitely proves that.
- Jack-artist


GA or save%?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
GA is largely affected by goaltending and in this case Rask definitely proves that.
- Jack-artist


You don't have the 3rd least GA unless you have great defence, great defensive forwards, and great goaltending.



great
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
I wasn't saying for Nino. I'm just saying Hemsky isn't a salary dump. He played well decently last year until he broke his foot blocking a shot n tried to play through it.

Salary dump IMO, means you have to give them an extra asset to take on the contract. Hemsky is still a fine player

- TheNugeIsHuge

J.Jokinen who has similar point totals and is making 2mil less had to be dealt with CAR keeping part of the contract. I just don't see how Hemsky who did very little last year gets dealt for anything of value at 5mil. He was scouted a lot too.

Also salary dump doesn't just mean you have to give an extra asset. Trading them for low end picks or players is also a dump.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Morrow had 11P in 30 games n got a great prospect and a pick at the deadline. Not out of the question that EDM could get a decent prospect for Hemmer
- TheNugeIsHuge

That's because Morrow is a gritty player who plays playoff hockey and has great leadership.

Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
I know. I said he was a #2 on a championship team
- TheNugeIsHuge



I wasn't trying to argue. More replying to the other poster I guess. He's a lot better than Smid. Ference is pretty solid too. That Bartkowski kid is a keeper too. That kid can fly.
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
I wasn't saying for Nino. I'm just saying Hemsky isn't a salary dump. He played well decently last year until he broke his foot blocking a shot n tried to play through it.

Salary dump IMO, means you have to give them an extra asset to take on the contract. Hemsky is still a fine player

- TheNugeIsHuge


He might get a second at the deadline or soemthing like that. Second and a third maybe.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
He was all over the place. Was with Gagner and yak for a chunk as well.

Fact is ES time he was 5th for forwards, overall 6th, PP 5th.

He had time.

- Lahey


20 mins a night with Horcoff is about the same as 5 mins a night with Joe Thornton,IMO. When he played with Yak and Gags early on,didn't he do okay? I can't remember but I thought he led the team in scoring at about the 15 game mark.
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:35 PM ET
That's because Morrow is a gritty player who plays playoff hockey and has great leadership.
- Lahey


That’s why he got that. But he’s pretty broken down.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:35 PM ET
He was all over the place. Was with Gagner and yak for a chunk as well.

Fact is ES time he was 5th for forwards, overall 6th, PP 5th.

He had time.

- Lahey

I have a feeling he ends up in Buffalo. Dont know why, just a feeling.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
Yes,$ and term would have to be very,very reasonable. I would make a phone call, but I wouldnt get into a bidding war. 2 years,6 mil about caps it for me.
- Jeropotato

I sooner go after Bickell even though I think he is overrated. At least he's younger and has potential to some degree. That and I do think if both guys lose their offense, Bickell is probably doing more for you and you don't risk that chance of him pulling a Whitney.

FYI: Whitney= Disgruntled Vet
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
GA or save%?
- Jeropotato

Good Sv% lowers goals against yes.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:38 PM ET
I wasn't trying to argue. More replying to the other poster I guess. He's a lot better than Smid. Ference is pretty solid too. That Bartkowski kid is a keeper too. That kid can fly.
- Dirte


So,,,,Steinley is out to lunch?
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
So,,,,Steinley is out to lunch?
- Jeropotato



yeah, pretty much.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
You don't have the 3rd least GA unless you have great defence, great defensive forwards, and great goaltending.



great

- TheNugeIsHuge

And a Hall of famer on defense. guess what I'm saying is Seidenberg and Boychuk look better when they have a guy like Chara in front. Petry probably would too, but we will never know until the team acquires someone else to be the number one defenseman.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
That's because Morrow is a gritty player who plays playoff hockey and has great leadership.
- Lahey

ugh i must have missed that this postseason
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
And a Hall of famer on defense. guess what I'm saying is Seidenberg and Boychuk look better when they have a guy like Chara in front. Petry probably would too, but we will never know until the team acquires someone else to be the number one defenseman.
- Jack-artist

Further more to Chara is their forwards aren't complete (frank)ing turnover machines and know how to backcheck properly and where to be.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
THAT'S IT !!!! FEASTER IS TAKING HEMMER!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOO!
- EdEagle


Pretty sure he said flames won't be using any buyouts so we have no use for hemsky
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
Good Sv% lowers goals against yes.
- Jack-artist


Ok, I might have read it wrong.Goaltending ids really the only factor in Sv%, where as total team defence has a greater impact on GA. You can have an excellent sv% and a poop GAA.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
I sooner go after Bickell even though I think he is overrated. At least he's younger and has potential to some degree. That and I do think if both guys lose their offense, Bickell is probably doing more for you and you don't risk that chance of him pulling a Whitney.

FYI: Whitney= Disgruntled Vet

- Lahey

Sure can't pay him for playoff points, I would hope the Oilers have learned that. Bickell would be a nice addition at the right price though.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:41 PM ET
Further more to Chara is their forwards aren't complete (frank)ing turnover machines and know how to backcheck properly and where to be.
- Lahey

Yeah that too.
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