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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:05 PM ET
I had suggested trading Simmonds for a guy like Edler. I'm open to any trade, so long as it makes the team better.
- Jsaquella


Reminds me of Holmgren's comments about the "buyout" of Bryz.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:05 PM ET
I have a hunch they won't be keeping that pick...
- cmr.266


We all have that hunch.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 8:07 PM ET
Reminds me of Holmgren's comments about the "buyout" of Bryz.
- stveshdy


They could trade Giroux, if the return is enough, I'd be cool with it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 8:10 PM ET
That's funny stuff. I hope they opt against overpaying for a watered down Scott Hartnell. I wonder how much Bickell ends up getting.

Makes me want to open a beer... all the speculating. Going to grab a beer.

- cmr.266



speculation. mmmmmmm.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:12 PM ET
speculation. mmmmmmm.
- Just5


Looking to speculate this 6-pack of Bud Heavy. Go Blackhawks?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:14 PM ET
you know how i know Coburn and the 11th for Ryan is a fair trade? Because Philly fans all think it's a ridiculous overpayment for Ryan and Anaheim fans all think it's a ridiculous lowball for Ryan lol
- moylander


It's a fair trade, in a pure hockey sense.

I wouldn't do it because the Flyers need to exercise that pick this year. But I've been surprised at how 30 goal-scorers -- which Bobby Ryan is -- are being taken for granted, easily dismissed.

I like Braydon Coburn as a player, wouldn't necessarily want him traded. But I do think Coburn and the 11th, in a typical draft year or if the Flyers had a clear-cut Top 4 defensive prospect...I'd do that deal.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:14 PM ET
They could trade Giroux, if the return is enough, I'd be cool with it.
- Jsaquella


I would agree. I'm not against any deal.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:14 PM ET
Nope have others in mind for #41
- ob18



Its a rule, the Flyers must trade all of their 2nd round picks.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 8:15 PM ET
I did forget to mention Downingtown, PA native Jimmy Lodge
- ob18

i was just about to jumop in. I also like Vanelli at that pick but think he might still be around in the third.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:15 PM ET
Its a rule, the Flyers must trade all of their 2nd round picks.
- Doc_Sarcasm


It's a good rule. Unless we want another Kevin Marshall.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:17 PM ET
i was just about to jumop in. I also like Vanelli at that pick but think he might still be around in the third.
- mayorofangrytown


Seen him from the 1st down to the 3rd......

I was thinking also of Dillon Heatherington but he's not going to add much scoring from the D spot.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:17 PM ET
It's a fair trade, in a pure hockey sense.

I wouldn't do it because the Flyers need to exercise that pick this year. But I've been surprised at how 30 goal-scorers -- which Bobby Ryan is -- are being taken for granted, easily dismissed.

I like Braydon Coburn as a player, wouldn't necessarily want him traded. But I do think Coburn and the 11th, in a typical draft year or if the Flyers had a clear-cut Top 4 defensive prospect...I'd do that deal.

- AllInForFlyers


That deal could go either way. I don't think its ridiculous nor do I think its a low ball offer.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:18 PM ET
Seen him from the 1st down to the 3rd......

I was thinking also of Dillon Heatherington but he's not going to add much scoring from the D spot.

- ob18



I'd be happy if he didnt run around in his own zone like a chicken with its head cut off or put pretty passes on the tape of opposing players' sticks


edit: or in the case of Andreas Lilja like a chicken with its legs cut off.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:20 PM ET
Seen him from the 1st down to the 3rd......

I was thinking also of Dillon Heatherington but he's not going to add much scoring from the D spot.

- ob18


Think Morin will be there? If so, do you draft him at 41?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:25 PM ET
Think Morin will be there? If so, do you draft him at 41?
- cmr.266


At #41 I would, do wonder if he falls to that point.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 19 @ 8:26 PM ET
That deal could go either way. I don't think its ridiculous nor do I think its a low ball offer.
- stveshdy



Ryan's likely going to sign here as a UFA in 2015... right as the young core enters its prime... what's the hurry to get him now?
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:30 PM ET
Ryan's likely going to sign here as a UFA in 2015... right as the young core enters its prime... what's the hurry to get him now?
- Tomahawk


To win now. As impossible as that sounds.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 8:30 PM ET
Seen him from the 1st down to the 3rd......

I was thinking also of Dillon Heatherington but he's not going to add much scoring from the D spot.

- ob18

if you think he's a player with an NHL future.... Vannelli might be a bit of a reach at 41. they should get an NHL player at 41 this year. would be cool if Jimmy Lodge fell to 71. don't think it will happen. he got a late push. late is more lasting. than steady.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
To win now. As impossible as that sounds.
- cmr.266


Streit, Ryan, and somehow replacing Braydon Coburn with some other younger, cheaper Braydon Coburn? Sounds like it could be potent. Still wouldn't bark up that tree just yet.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
if you think he's a player with an NHL future.... Vannelli might be a bit of a reach at 41. they should get an NHL player at 41 this year. would be cool if Jimmy Lodge fell to 71. don't think it will happen. he got a late push. late is more lasting. than steady.
- mayorofangrytown


He played very well as the season went on with Saginaw, probably a 2nd rounder "maybe" early 3rd.

Maybe a Brett Pesce, Spencer Martin, Ryan Kujawinski, or a Anthony Duclair can be 3rd round targets.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:38 PM ET
They could trade Giroux, if the return is enough, I'd be cool with it.
- Jsaquella

Giroux for weber and 2 Nashville firsts?
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:41 PM ET
Giroux for weber and 2 Nashville firsts?
- PhillaBully


I'm sure that'd be great for the locker room morale.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 8:47 PM ET
Ryan's likely going to sign here as a UFA in 2015... right as the young core enters its prime... what's the hurry to get him now?
- Tomahawk


Tell that to steady eddy and see what reaction you'll get
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:49 PM ET
Ryan's likely going to sign here as a UFA in 2015... right as the young core enters its prime... what's the hurry to get him now?
- Tomahawk


They have to move a defenseman. Getting Ryan for Coburn looks good to me. There's value in that trade.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 19 @ 8:50 PM ET
traded everyone to toronto for kadri
- Doc_Sarcasm

We had enough to offer to get him?
The leafs overpaid again
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