Off the top of my head If Avs take MacKinnon. . .

Vanek and a 2nd in 2014 for Stastny and Mcginn.

Ennis+Sekera+Adam+3rd in 2014 for Bobby Ryan

Miller(30% retain) for Heatley+Clutterbuck+Prospect+pick

2nd in 2013 and 2014 for Jamie Oleksiak

Stafford for a prospect/pick


Ryan-Stastny-Heatley
McGinn-Hodgson-Clutterbuck
Ott-Grigorenko-Leino
Kaleta-Porter-Tropp
Gerbe/Scott/Flynn

Myers-Ehrhoff
Pysyk-Weber
Oleksiak-Mcnabb/Ruhwedel/Sulzer
Pardy
- ImThatGuy

jamie ole wont go anywhere but like the idea

Off the top of my head If Avs take MacKinnon. . .

Vanek and a 2nd in 2014 for Stastny and Mcginn.

Ennis+Sekera+Adam+3rd in 2014 for Bobby Ryan

Miller(30% retain) for Heatley+Clutterbuck+Prospect+pick

2nd in 2013 and 2014 for Jamie Oleksiak

Stafford for a prospect/pick


Ryan-Stastny-Heatley
McGinn-Hodgson-Clutterbuck
Ott-Grigorenko-Leino
Kaleta-Porter-Tropp
Gerbe/Scott/Flynn

Myers-Ehrhoff
Pysyk-Weber
Oleksiak-Mcnabb/Ruhwedel/Sulzer
Pardy
- ImThatGuy

Wait so is Statsny taking a pay cut? Or are we ready for a 6.7 mil 50 pt player

I missed the part where Colorado did better than us over the last few years with Statsny.... He has done nothing significant in years.
- sbroads24

well i guess i just like good ole two way players

vanek is the leader of our one dimensional team of misfits of square pegs in a league of round holes

Ill bet Colorado is in the playoffs before us

I missed the part where Colorado did better than us over the last few years with Statsny.... He has done nothing significant in years.
- sbroads24

Im going to go out on a limb and say he is unhappy there. I do not think that stuff that his dad said was all for not. You dont go from almost a PPG player to nothing just like that.

Wait so is Statsny taking a pay cut? Or are we ready for a 6.7 mil 50 pt player
- sbroads24

if our top line center only gets 50 points then we are a lock for top 2 next year

Sabres aren't getting the 1st overall... not because they can't, but because the deal would be too stupid to.

Think Myers, Grigorenko, and 8th overall (maybe even tag on 16th). Would you do that deal? If you say no, then this deal won't happen, because Colorado isn't going to trade for more first round picks beyond the 10th spot to up the value of the 8th. At 8, they're going to get a 2nd line potential player in Monahan or Shinkaruk... they need some other "potential all stars" to sweeten that deal, and one of Myers and Grigorenko at least will head that direction.

And if you think this is too much to send their way for Jones, then you're sane.

What Buffalo could potentially do is trade Nashville for their 4th (which is also going to cost them a good player) or Carolina for their 5th, and then trade up to Colorado for their 1st and then it'll only cost them whatever they give Nashville, and one of Myers and Grigorenko instead of both.
- archromat

All Day I would take that deal.

if our top line center only gets 50 points then we are a lock for top 2 next year
- hubie

So it would not be any different from this year, except we end up with a better player in the draft?

well i guess i just like good ole two way players

vanek is the leader of our one dimensional team of misfits of square pegs in a league of round holes

Ill bet Colorado is in the playoffs before us
- hubie

Colorado would be better with Vanek than the Sabres would be with Statsny. If we aren't rebuilding and adding, why are we moving Vanek?

...Says the guy with the same drafting principals as his organization. THEY NEED DEFENSE!

...So does Edmonton
- bmhumby

Whats wrong with drafting the same position year after year?

Signed
Detroit Lions

Colorado would be better with Vanek than the Sabres would be with Statsny. If we aren't rebuilding and adding, why are we moving Vanek?
- sbroads24

Fresh bodies with somethign to prove..... maybe you can get a prospect or pick back

Colorado would be better with Vanek than the Sabres would be with Statsny. If we aren't rebuilding and adding, why are we moving Vanek?
- sbroads24

This is your opinion, no one knows that for a fact.

I am willing to try anything at this point.

Whats wrong with drafting the same position year after year?

Signed
Detroit Lions
- RynoBull

Whats wrong with drafting the same position year after year?

Signed
Detroit Lions
- RynoBull

Yet Matt Millen gets a football analyst job...

Miller for Statsny
- RynoBull

no.

Vanek can be a game changer. It's only for a handful of games at a time but Statsny is a serious downgrade from Vanek. We lose that trade big time even if both had long term deals
- sbroads24

fixed.

Vanek(signed to an 8 year deal prior to the trade) and a 2014 2nd for Stastny and a 2014 1st. Then moving Stastny at the deadline for another 2014 1st, isn't losing the trade big time.


And yes Stastny at the 2014 trade deadline for a 1st is a very plausible scenario as he'd be the best center available.

Vanek for Stastny straight up?
- hubie

If you did that, who would play on his wing? If your bringing in Stastny then your keeping Vanek too. Unless you like the idea of Rick never saying

"Stastny to Stafford...Scoooooooooore!

Vanek- last 2 seasons 116 gp 102 pts .87ppg
Statsny- 119 gp 77 pts .64 PPG

IMO Hodgson and Ennis are just as good and younger than Stastny. We'd be moving a first line winger for a 2nd or 3rd line center
- sbroads24

offensively yes...

but Stastny also is a better defender and 3 zone player than Vanek, Ennis, and Hodgeson combined...

Fresh bodies with somethign to prove..... maybe you can get a prospect or pick back
- hubie

If it were a deal centered around a younger more dynamic player like ROR I would listen. IMO if the Avs take Mack, you could acquire Statsny for less than Vanek.
Think Sekera and a prospect or McNabb and Stafford.

Vanek IMO is too much

If you did that, who would play on his wing? If your bringing in Stastny then your keeping Vanek too. Unless you like the idea of Rick never saying

"Stastny to Stafford...Scoooooooooore!
- RynoBull

Dont care have my real top line center.... sign someone anyone

how abotu toss in connolly and we send a 2nd or something

offensively yes...

but Stastny also is a better defender and 3 zone player than Vanek, Ennis, and Hodgeson combined...
- JVince11

-7, -8, -7, 2, -9 last five years......just saying

If it were a deal centered around a younger more dynamic player like ROR I would listen. IMO if the Avs take Mack, you could acquire Statsny for less than Vanek.
Think Sekera and a prospect or McNabb and Stafford.

Vanek IMO is too much
- sbroads24

so if the deal was for somethign that can not be done you would listen?

Off the top of my head If Avs take MacKinnon. . .

Vanek and a 2nd in 2014 for Stastny and Mcginn.

Ennis+Sekera+Adam+3rd in 2014 for Bobby Ryan

Miller(30% retain) for Heatley+Clutterbuck+Prospect+pick

2nd in 2013 and 2014 for Jamie Oleksiak

Stafford for a prospect/pick


Ryan-Stastny-Heatley
McGinn-Hodgson-Clutterbuck
Ott-Grigorenko-Leino
Kaleta-Porter-Tropp
Gerbe/Scott/Flynn

Myers-Ehrhoff
Pysyk-Weber
Oleksiak-Mcnabb/Ruhwedel/Sulzer
Pardy
- ImThatGuy

No thank you for a killer on this team. Him and kaleta hate eachother and would probably fight every day in the locker room and at practice.

So we are rolling 5 lines now? BALLER!!!

Put down the PS3 controller.. and slowly back away without making any sudden movements...

-7, -8, -7, 2, -9 last five years......just saying
- RynoBull

so in your perfect world you wouldnt ever change the roster?

-7, -8, -7, 2, -9 last five years......just saying
- RynoBull

really??? You are going to use +/- as the level of it he is good in all 3 zones??

that has to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen....

The Avs are a bottom dwelling team... in the last 5 years those numbers are probably pretty good considering the elements..



Shall we talk about Vanek and his sandy/salty vagina when it comes to hitting someone?? what has he had... 10 hits a year? maybe -5 shots blocked..

-7, -8, -7, 2, -9 last five years......just saying
- RynoBull

When comparing the talent between both teams over those five years, that isn't all that bad.