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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
If im to buy into this jones not going 1st then he can be there at 4. In this scenario I see Dallas trading to 4 to get Jones

#10, #29 and a mid level prospect like a reily,nemeth,glennie
for the 4th pk and may have to send a 4th or two on the way back

This is predicated that Tampa takes Barkov or else id hold pat as ive done all along that nashville will take barkov but could see dallas trading up

If Nashville Selects Barkov then Carolina imo def trades that pick to Dallas for a similar package except instead of prospect id go d man say

Daley Goligoski
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:22 AM ET
MacKinnon, Stastny, Duchene, and O'Reilly...

something would have to give...

I remember Duchene played wing for a season or two when he first came in the league... They have to be trying to move Stastny... and I guarantee all the chatter will be to Buffalo or Toronto again.

Miller and a 2nd rounder for Stastny and McGinn.

OR

Vanek, 16th, and Flynn for Duchene and 2nd rounder.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 19 @ 9:26 AM ET
MacKinnon, Stastny, Duchene, and O'Reilly...

something would have to give...

I remember Duchene played wing for a season or two when he first came in the league... They have to be trying to move Stastny... and I guarantee all the chatter will be to Buffalo or Toronto again.

Miller and a 2nd rounder for Stastny and McGinn.

OR

Vanek, 16th, and Flynn for Duchene and 2nd rounder.

- JVince11



They will not move Duchene.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
They will not move Duchene.
- bixll


agree stasny is out the door
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:28 AM ET
Vanek for Stastny straight up?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 19 @ 9:30 AM ET
If im to buy into this jones not going 1st then he can be there at 4. In this scenario I see Dallas trading to 4 to get Jones

#10, #29 and a mid level prospect like a reily,nemeth,glennie
for the 4th pk and may have to send a 4th or two on the way back

This is predicated that Tampa takes Barkov or else id hold pat as ive done all along that nashville will take barkov but could see dallas trading up

If Nashville Selects Barkov then Carolina imo def trades that pick to Dallas for a similar package except instead of prospect id go d man say

Daley Goligoski

- hubie



If Dallas gets Jones we should try and pry Jamie Oleksiak away from them.

http://www.hockeysfuture....prospects/jamie_oleksiak/
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:31 AM ET
They will not move Duchene.
- bixll


HEY!!!!! no pissing on my parade!!!


If they draft MacK.. he will get a max deal....
Duchene, Landeskog, Varlamov, McGinn, and ROR are RFA's after this year and already make 3.5, 3.75, 2.83M, 1.75M, and 5M... they will all have to get raises from that number...

They only have 10M in cap space right now with 22 skaters.. yes taking Stastny's 6.6M off the books would get this accomplished most likely.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
Vanek for Stastny straight up?
- hubie


hell no....


reading all of the stats that people have dug for on here.... even if Vanek is a streaky bastard.... he still puts up the points.. he still is a PPG player.. and he still has the 3rd most points in his draft class which is considered one of the deepest drafts in recent history.

he has his value... just a bad offer sheet has muddied the water surrounding his worth to our team.

Stastny has had the same numbers as Roy had for Buffalo but makes 2.5M+ than he did. Stastny has also declined drastically as the talent on his wings has declined too.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:34 AM ET
If Dallas gets Jones we should try and pry Jamie Oleksiak away from them.

http://www.hockeysfuture....prospects/jamie_oleksiak/

- ImThatGuy


eh id go after glennie ritchie chiasson smith

but dont think that that would move ole, seems him and jones would be a lockdown top pairing for a decade

http://www.defendingbigd....ranking-pre-draft-edition
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
hell no....


reading all of the stats that people have dug for on here.... even if Vanek is a streaky bastard.... he still puts up the points.. he still is a PPG player.. and he still has the 3rd most points in his draft class which is considered one of the deepest drafts in recent history.

he has his value... just a bad offer sheet has muddied the water surrounding his worth to our team.

Stastny has had the same numbers as Roy had for Buffalo but makes 2.5M+ than he did. Stastny has also declined drastically as the talent on his wings has declined too.

- JVince11


I agree just salary and last year of contract to me is a good move for everyone but id not take it.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 19 @ 9:37 AM ET
HEY!!!!! no pissing on my parade!!!


If they draft MacK.. he will get a max deal....
Duchene, Landeskog, Varlamov, McGinn, and ROR are RFA's after this year and already make 3.5, 3.75, 2.83M, 1.75M, and 5M... they will all have to get raises from that number...

They only have 10M in cap space right now with 22 skaters.. yes taking Stastny's 6.6M off the books would get this accomplished most likely.

- JVince11



I predict they move 2 of them, and pick up a very good d man as well. Stastny and ROR
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jun 19 @ 9:37 AM ET
Vanek for Stastny straight up?
- hubie

Would rather keep Vanek and see if you could re-sing him. I don't hate Stastny I just think Vanek is better.
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jun 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
I predict they move 2 of them, and pick up a very good d man as well. Stastny and ROR
- bixll

Can't move him.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
Can't move him.
- leonwaldo420



Yet.
Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
GARTH: Avs Will Pass On Jones
- garth


so what if tthey pick Mackinnon and trade Duchene for that 2nd overall? could that work? they get em both
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
Would rather keep Vanek and see if you could re-sing him. I don't hate Stastny I just think Vanek is better.
- leonwaldo420


Vanek is more skilled yes but id trade it for the yute in statsny
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Can't move him.
- leonwaldo420


He was given a no movement clause? really.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
He was given a no movement clause? really.
- bixll


they matched the offor which means a year from that day you cant be moved
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
they matched the offor which means a year from that day you cant be moved
- hubie

Isn't that Feb something ?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
Isn't that Feb something ?
- cabin



yep and any team trading for him has to qualify him at 6.5 mil to retain his rights
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
Isn't that Feb something ?
- cabin


late feb early march maybe
rustbelt82
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
Vanek for Stastny straight up?
- hubie


no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
GARTH: Crappy Anniversary
- garth


That call sucked, but the Sabres still weren't going to win that series.

They scored only over its last 150 minutes of play. That's what lost them the series.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
late feb early march maybe
- hubie



Feb 28th.


http://www.sportingnews.c...sog-matt-duchene-calgary-
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jun 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
Vanek is more skilled yes but id trade it for the yute in statsny
- hubie

I could be wrong but its only a couple years in age difference? 27&29 I believe. I would be all in if PS was 23, I would love to upgrade the C position.
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