Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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I could definitely see Philadelphia trying to land Jones, but I can't imagine Couturier + 11th + 2nd being offered. It just seems like an overpayment to me. I think Zadorov might be on Philly's radar.
Re: Calgary. My feeling is that they'd love MacKinnon. They've needed a number one center....forever. - Michael_Stuart
Maybe more like Couturier and a second, no 11th.
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archromat
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Location: Moncton, NB Joined: 01.16.2012
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You guys are lucky either way: the top 5 are a class above the rest. We'll be getting a second liner at ninth.
But everyone will try to convince people that they're first liners |
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archromat
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Location: Moncton, NB Joined: 01.16.2012
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Maybe more like Couturier and a second, no 11th. - Dirte
Even Couturier + 11th wouldn't land Jones. Couturier is gonna be good, and so MIGHT 11th... Jones has the possibility of becoming great. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Until they announce MacKinnon or Jones, I am not buying what anyone is selling about it. They have been going back and forth on that selection. Either way its a cant miss player. Im honestlty torn who I would rather have (maybe more to Jones bc when MacKinnon interviews he sounds like Napolean Dynamite) |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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Even Couturier + 11th wouldn't land Jones. Couturier is gonna be good, and so MIGHT 11th... Jones has the possibility of becoming great. - archromat
I think you're undervaluing Couturier a bit. They'd be crazy to turn down Couturier and the 11th.
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I want the oilers to get into the top five so bad but if they don't I'm happy with monahan or lindhholm I guess haha |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I want the oilers to get into the top five so bad but if they don't I'm happy with monahan or lindhholm I guess haha - BleedOil06
trade for Letang with your pick, since apparently he is available. You wouldnt draft Nurse? |
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Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.17.2011
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I doubt it, i can see Mackinnon going first but then Jones would get taken by Florida if Colorado takes Mackinnon. |
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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Leaf Nation, ON Joined: 06.30.2010
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I don't think Jones will drop to the 21st pick...
Wait, I thought that Leafs and Tampa trade went thru, so the Leafs will be picking 3rd overall |
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vsunited001
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 01.16.2009
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I get my hopes up...we look good on paper again.
Then hope dies |
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trade for Letang with your pick, since apparently he is available. You wouldnt draft Nurse? - DDM-Coga
I wouldn't personally the oilers are barren in depth at centre all the way down to the echl haha where they have defensive prospects that are doing really well in okc plus lindholm sounds like he could be a possible steal at seven if calgary doesn't take him first. I would love to have letang on our team but it would take more then our first and we would just open up another roster hole tryingto get him. |
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Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: New Haven, CT Joined: 03.09.2013
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I don't see Stastny as a player TOR would give Gardiner up for, especially since they can sign him next year if they wanted in all likelihood... - mventres
Toronto doesent want a #1 center lol? #1 centers arent free unless you finish in the bottom 3 |
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Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: New Haven, CT Joined: 03.09.2013
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I have a sneaky suspicion PHI would be highly interested to move into #2 and get Jones:
Couturier + 11th + 2nd rnd?
CGY also, perhaps their top 2 #1's + 2nd rnd for #2? - mventres
Calgary got denied all 3 #1s to get up to 1. So i dont think thats enough to get to 2 |
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Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: New Haven, CT Joined: 03.09.2013
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I've been waiting for the draft since April. - Michael_Stuart
Ive been waiting since before the lockout loll |
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Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: New Haven, CT Joined: 03.09.2013
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No, you don't even think of Stastny for Gardiner, even if it's just "the main pieces". If you're going to trade a good young player with YEARS of RFA and being Leafs property, you do it for something in a similar situation back. In other words, you target something more like Ryan O'Reilly. That would be more realistic. That said, the Avs probably won't be trading O'Reilly.
I can see the Leafs trading for Stastny, but given he's not really producing all that well, hasn't for years, has a huge ridiculous contract, and one more year to UFA, I'd say a more realistic trade would see something like Carter Ashton and a second round pick. Stastny doesn't carry much value anymore. - Dirte
Haha leaf fans, #1 centers arent free. You cant get them without giving something bug. |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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Haha leaf fans, #1 centers arent free. You cant get them without giving something bug. - Djtyczy
Great, where can we find a number 1 centre? Because we're talking Paul Stastny here. Projected to roughly 40 points over this year, if it were a full season. 57 two years ago, 53 the year before. what can you expect out of him this year, 50 points? For $6.5M? It's a partial salary dump. Just because he's paid like one, doesn't necessarily make him a first line centre. If it does, well hey, Komisarek and a second for Stastny ought to do the trick.
Stastny, who's roughly a 50 point centre over the past few years, paid line an elite centre, last year of a contract..... that kind of player holds little to no value. |
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RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Canada Joined: 03.10.2013
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hey, I got a callout from the infamous Michael! woohoo
its hard to believe it but the chance of us landing jones is more real than ever now, although these are just words that have been said not actions that have been done
I try to hold myself back as much as I can but after hearing this news and knowing the draft is soon its hard not to jump to conclusions on what I hope so bad will happen
the hardest part is realizing that someone could easily get the #2 trade from florida and land him (frank) |
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bluepulasky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 03.31.2013
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Regardless of how 1 and 2 pan out you guys are in an enviable position with this draft class. I'd be beyond stoked for the draft if I were a Lightning fan knowing I'd be getting one of Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin, etc. Uber jealous |
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uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Excuseville, FL Joined: 06.29.2011
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Great, where can we find a number 1 centre? Because we're talking Paul Stastny here. Projected to roughly 40 points over this year, if it were a full season. 57 two years ago, 53 the year before. what can you expect out of him this year, 50 points? For $6.5M? It's a partial salary dump. Just because he's paid like one, doesn't necessarily make him a first line centre. If it does, well hey, Komisarek and a second for Stastny ought to do the trick.
Stastny, who's roughly a 50 point centre over the past few years, paid line an elite centre, last year of a contract..... that kind of player holds little to no value. - Dirte
This
This whole Stastny as a #1 center or traded for a 1st round pick is ridiculous. Enough already, if he was such a great asset then he would have been dealt already seeing as he was relegated to 3rd line duties and Colorado wasn't good. He's more of a buyout candidate (if Aves were in cap trouble) then he is an excellent trade asset.
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Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: New Haven, CT Joined: 03.09.2013
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Great, where can we find a number 1 centre? Because we're talking Paul Stastny here. Projected to roughly 40 points over this year, if it were a full season. 57 two years ago, 53 the year before. what can you expect out of him this year, 50 points? For $6.5M? It's a partial salary dump. Just because he's paid like one, doesn't necessarily make him a first line centre. If it does, well hey, Komisarek and a second for Stastny ought to do the trick.
Stastny, who's roughly a 50 point centre over the past few years, paid line an elite centre, last year of a contract..... that kind of player holds little to no value. - Dirte
Put him on a line with Kessel, you will get 60-70 points out of him. |
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Icegirl94
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Hanover, NH Joined: 06.01.2013
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I've been waiting for the draft since April. - Michael_Stuart
Me too!!
Why can't we just draft Drouin already |
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Icegirl94
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Hanover, NH Joined: 06.01.2013
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Haha leaf fans, #1 centers arent free. You cant get them without giving something bug. - Djtyczy
That's true but since I could think of 30 centres I'd rather have than Stastny, he probably doesn't fall into that category.
Stastny is overrated, injury riddled and his contract doesn't help his cause either. He's been mentioned to be on the trade block for over a year now and COL still hasn't found a deal for him. |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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Put him on a line with Kessel, you will get 60-70 points out of him. - Djtyczy
Awesome, give him some elite scoring wingers and that will elevate him to a level of bottom rung first line centre production. Exactly what you want out of your "first line centre" that you're paying one of the highest salaries in the league.
Again, you're wrong, Stastny carries little to no value.
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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That's true but since I could think of 30 centres I'd rather have than Stastny, he probably doesn't fall into that category.
Stastny is overrated, injury riddled and his contract doesn't help his cause either. He's been mentioned to be on the trade block for over a year now and COL still hasn't found a deal for him. - Icegirl94
I wonder what the over/under on how many people from how many different teams have to tell this guy that he's out to lunch, before he realizes he was being a total moron with his little laughy face icon and flippant remark about Leaf fans.
So far we have 3 people from 2 different teams. My guess is it's going to take quite a few more for this guy to get a clue. |
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