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cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
Well that's the point. If you ever thought about a trade with Philly, it needs to be a kings ransom, anything less isn't worth playing against letang 6 times a year plus playoffs
- drummer829


Yeah. Letang would be the sought after prize of the trade, so Philly would have to overpay for Shero to even consider the deal.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
The Ducks signed Voynov. 6 years, 25 mil 4.167 Cap hit

Edit: Brain fart......Kings
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:20 PM ET

Flyers fans jumping on our board are gonna be all over you with that one... How dare you put Couturier in any deal!

- nelson911


Couturier wouldn't be in this (clearly hypothetical) deal because, again, the Flyers wouldn't want to play against Hartnell AND Couturier 6x a year. I just know that Letang is probably gone after this year, and that Pittsburgh fans hate having to play against Hartnell. Just wondering (taking the rivalry aside) what it would take.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
The Ducks signed Voynov. 6 years, 25 mil 4.167 Cap hit
- cap1681


The Ducks?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
The Ducks?
- jmatchett383


Meant Kings
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Meant Kings
- cap1681


Okay, I was wondering what I missed.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
The Ducks?
- jmatchett383


For a second I thought the kings traded him to the ducks haha
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
For a second I thought the kings traded him to the ducks haha
- drummer829


It's one of those new 3-minute window offer sheets than requires no compensation.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
Actually a pretty nice deal for the Kings.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
Actually a pretty nice deal for the Kings.
- rival22


It's an awesome deal for the kings. He's only getting better and 2 years from now it will look like a steal.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
For a second I thought the kings traded him to the ducks haha
- drummer829


The Kings now have pretty much the same amount of cap space as the Penguins, with 3 less players on their roster.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
It's an awesome deal for the kings. He's only getting better and 2 years from now it will look like a steal.
- drummer829

definitely agree. someone convince letang he can have that deal, plus an extra 1.5 a year!
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
Couturier wouldn't be in this (clearly hypothetical) deal because, again, the Flyers wouldn't want to play against Hartnell AND Couturier 6x a year. I just know that Letang is probably gone after this year, and that Pittsburgh fans hate having to play against Hartnell. Just wondering (taking the rivalry aside) what it would take.
- jmatchett383


I would think that any Letang trade to Philly would have to include Voracek.

What would Flyer's fans be willing to give up for Letang?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
id love to get yakupov and smid from edmonton for letang. ive kind of restrained from throwing out the crazy proposals, but that is one id love. id be fine even adding a little to it
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
It's an awesome deal for the kings. He's only getting better and 2 years from now it will look like a steal.
- drummer829


From Voynov's side, I'm surprised he went with 6 years. He gave up a few UFA years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
I would think that any Letang trade to Philly would have to include Voracek.

What would Flyer's fans be willing to give up for Letang?

- rival22


Something like Coburn, one of the kids (prob. B. Schenn), Read, and a 1st.

But I doubt you'd want Schenn. I heard he once cross checked a player.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
I fully believe they need to get a good D back in any trade. Letang plays 27+ a game, I don't see how you can say Despres or any of the other young players are ready to step in and take that role. Thanks to Bylsma, who knows where Despres stands in his development.

As for Hartnell, I want no part of a guy who description includes the words "dumb penalty".

- madmike71

How about most PP goals or 35 goal guy? Those words also need to be included.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:36 PM ET
I fully believe they need to get a good D back in any trade. Letang plays 27+ a game, I don't see how you can say Despres or any of the other young players are ready to step in and take that role. Thanks to Bylsma, who knows where Despres stands in his development.

As for Hartnell, I want no part of a guy who description includes the words "dumb penalty".

- madmike71

And according to Bylsma Despres will be a top 4 defenseman next year so yes a lot of those minutes will be his. Better get used to the idea because it's likely to happen
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 4:42 PM ET
Something like Coburn, one of the kids (prob. B. Schenn), Read, and a 1st.

But I doubt you'd want Schenn. I heard he once cross checked a player.

- jmatchett383

haha im sorry but schenn is a little punk. he can piss off. if i honestly have to trade tanger to the flyers, id want an overpayment to the point you would laugh me out of the room. voracek and simmonds would have to come back.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:42 PM ET
And according to Bylsma Despres will be a top 4 defenseman next year so yes a lot of those minutes will be his. Better get used to the idea because it's likely to happen
- dbell646


And according to Bylsma, MAF is the starting goalie next year. He's either a liar or is very masochistic.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
haha im sorry but schenn is a little punk. he can piss off. if i honestly have to trade tanger to the flyers, id want an overpayment to the point you would laugh me out of the room. voracek and simmonds would have to come back.
- stayinthefnnet


And that's why (as I said) the trade would never happen. Just asking how close does Hartnell come.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
haha im sorry but schenn is a little punk. he can piss off. if i honestly have to trade tanger to the flyers, id want an overpayment to the point you would laugh me out of the room. voracek and simmonds would have to come back.
- stayinthefnnet

For the sake of argument, suppose realignment was putting the Flyers and Penguins in different confrisions. Would that impact your asking price?
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
From Voynov's side, I'm surprised he went with 6 years. He gave up a few UFA years.
- rival22


He will be 28 at the end of his contract and at his prime. If he keeps getting better and the cap continues to rise, in 6 years he could land a nice little contract around 7-8 mil per year.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
Something like Coburn, one of the kids (prob. B. Schenn), Read, and a 1st.

But I doubt you'd want Schenn. I heard he once cross checked a player.

- jmatchett383

I don't want either of the Schenn's...one is a punk the other is the most overrated d-man of the last 5 years, you can thank TO for that one.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
I don't want either of the Schenn's...one is a punk the other is the most overrated d-man of the last 5 years, you can thank TO for that one.
- nelson911


JVR is a stud. Why Philly traded him straight up for luke schenn baffles me
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