Not a chance in Hell this would even be discussed by the GMs, but:

What would you guys think of Hartnell for Letang? Yes, Letang's the better player. But Hartnell's signed for 5 more years, and would instantly go from super villian to super hero in Pittsburgh (and vice versa in Philly). Plus you get a top-6 winger to play with the super centers (it's a very "super" deal) who can do a bit of everything. He's like James Neal with a physical game. Just wondering.
- jmatchett383

Philly would have to add something to that deal. Probably a pick and a prospect. Wouldn't happen though.

Not a chance in Hell this would even be discussed by the GMs, but:

What would you guys think of Hartnell for Letang? Yes, Letang's the better player. But Hartnell's signed for 5 more years, and would instantly go from super villian to super hero in Pittsburgh (and vice versa in Philly). Plus you get a top-6 winger to play with the super centers (it's a very "super" deal) who can do a bit of everything. He's like James Neal with a physical game. Just wondering.
- jmatchett383

You know how they say when you're trying to answer a question on a test that your first choice is the best choice.

I would stick with that premise.....

Not a chance in Hell this would even be discussed by the GMs, but:

What would you guys think of Hartnell for Letang? Yes, Letang's the better player. But Hartnell's signed for 5 more years, and would instantly go from super villian to super hero in Pittsburgh (and vice versa in Philly). Plus you get a top-6 winger to play with the super centers (it's a very "super" deal) who can do a bit of everything. He's like James Neal with a physical game. Just wondering.
- jmatchett383

Would I want Hartnell on the Pens? Yes, very much so.

But I wouldn't trade Letang for him.

Not a chance in Hell this would even be discussed by the GMs, but:

What would you guys think of Hartnell for Letang? Yes, Letang's the better player. But Hartnell's signed for 5 more years, and would instantly go from super villian to super hero in Pittsburgh (and vice versa in Philly). Plus you get a top-6 winger to play with the super centers (it's a very "super" deal) who can do a bit of everything. He's like James Neal with a physical game. Just wondering.
- jmatchett383

Wouldn't even consider it.

these numbers being thrown out there as market value for dupuis are pretty god damn frightening

@emptynetters - Boston media part 1: "Crosby's whining about a hit from two weeks ago." Boston media part 2: "Matt Cooke hit Marc Savard three years ago!!!"


- cap1681

Cooke hit ended Savard's career, Chara "hit" on Crosby was a love tap. emptynetters needs to try again.

Wouldn't even consider it.
- Oneonta Penguin

I think Hartnell has only one season where he was able to control himself and play smart hockey. I'm pretty sure he was back to being an idiot at the wrong times last year. Yeah.......we certainly need more of that!

Not a chance in Hell this would even be discussed by the GMs, but:

What would you guys think of Hartnell for Letang? Yes, Letang's the better player. But Hartnell's signed for 5 more years, and would instantly go from super villian to super hero in Pittsburgh (and vice versa in Philly). Plus you get a top-6 winger to play with the super centers (it's a very "super" deal) who can do a bit of everything. He's like James Neal with a physical game. Just wondering.
- jmatchett383

That's tough. I'd take Hartnell on my team in a minute but I'd be sick seeing Letang in that ugly jersey.

That's tough. I'd take Hartnell on my team in a minute but I'd be sick seeing Letang in that ugly jersey.
- dbell646

Can't control taking stupid penalties and we need a defenseman back in return for Letang. If you are trading away someone of his ilk, you need to get a high draft pick to select a young and talented forward AND an NHL ready Dman. Hartnell doesn't fit either criteria. We already have two that take stupid penalties (hello Geno and Neal) - we don't need another.

Do you honestly think Shero would deal Letang to Philly? I don't. If he did, Shero would have to win the deal hands down. A swap like this isn't winning a deal.

I hate Hartnell but Letang for him would be absurd.... It's hard to find equal value.... but I would start with Kunitz

I hate Hartnell but Letang for him would be absurd.... It's hard to find equal value.... but I would start with Kunitz
- nelson911

I wouldn't trade Kunitz for him.

I think Hartnell has only one season where he was able to control himself and play smart hockey. I'm pretty sure he was back to being an idiot at the wrong times last year. Yeah.......we certainly need more of that!
- madmike71

Hartnell's been on three of our most proficient scoring lines since his arrival: first, with Carter and Lupul, then with Briere and Leino, and most recently with Giroux and Jagr. He wasn't there by mistake.

Of course, I won't deny he does some pretty dumb things. But the guy's not some invalid who got lucky for one season.

Do you honestly think Shero would deal Letang to Philly? I don't. If he did, Shero would have to win the deal hands down. A swap like this isn't winning a deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

The proposal intrinsically required a certain suspension of disbelief, yo.

Cooke hit ended Savard's career, Chara "hit" on Crosby was a love tap. emptynetters needs to try again.
- MadCap2008

I respect you MadCap, but Savard did come back to play. He came back way earlier than he should. Who knows what would have happened if Savard would have waited a year or longer.

The Chara punch was not a love tap. Especially to a guy with a very recent broken jaw and a history of concussion as well.

Can't control taking stupid penalties and we need a defenseman back in return for Letang. If you are trading away someone of his ilk, you need to get a high draft pick to select a young and talented forward AND an NHL ready Dman. Hartnell doesn't fit either criteria. We already have two that take stupid penalties (hello Geno and Neal) - we don't need another.

Do you honestly think Shero would deal Letang to Philly? I don't. If he did, Shero would have to win the deal hands down. A swap like this isn't winning a deal.
- Oneonta Penguin

Why do we need an NHL ready defenseman back? Despres is ready for full time minutes and take a look at WB it's loaded with top end D talent. And how does the draft pick help us now? I'd prefer to just trade him for a young talented forward already in the league. You're honestly saying Hartnell has no place on this team? I'm not saying I'd trade Hartnell for Letang strait up but he could def be a big part of the package.

Hartnell's been on three of our most proficient scoring lines since his arrival: first, with Carter and Lupul, then with Briere and Leino, and most recently with Giroux and Jagr. He wasn't there by mistake.

Of course, I won't deny he does some pretty dumb things. But the guy's not some invalid who got lucky for one season.
- BulliesPhan87

Not saying that. Just saying he controlled himself last season, this season.....same as it ever was. We've already got a couple of players that lose their minds at the most inopportune moments.

The proposal intrinsically required a certain suspension of disbelief, yo.
- BulliesPhan87

He missed the I know there is no way in hell the GM's would do this

Not saying that. Just saying he controlled himself last season, this season.....same as it ever was. We've already got a couple of players that lose their minds at the most inopportune moments.
- madmike71

He's gone back and forth through his tenure here. When things are going well, he plays really damn good hockey. When things are not going well, he's one of the first victims of frustration. Lots of the latter last season, but he was also slowed by an early return from a foot injury.

Why do we need an NHL ready defenseman back? Despres is ready for full time minutes and take a look at WB it's loaded with top end D talent. And how does the draft pick help us now? I'd prefer to just trade him for a young talented forward already in the league. You're honestly saying Hartnell has no place on this team? I'm not saying I'd trade Hartnell for Letang strait up but he could def be a big part of the package.
- dbell646

Letang for hartnell, coutorier, 2013 1st and conditional 2014 1st.

He missed the I know there is no way in hell the GM's would do this
- dbell646

It is a pretty ridiculous premise, to be fair. But this is the internet, ridiculous is SOP.

Letang for hartnell, coutorier, 2013 1st and conditional 2014 1st.
- drummer829

sounds like way to much but might be in the ball park if Letang was signed long term. Maybe not a 2 1sts. Doubt Philly would go for that

It is a pretty ridiculous premise, to be fair. But this is the internet, ridiculous is SOP.
- BulliesPhan87

It was clearly hypothetical. The Hamuis deal was about as big as you'll get from these rivalries

sounds like way to much but might be in the ball park if Letang was signed long term. Maybe not a 2 1sts. Doubt Philly would go for that
- dbell646

Well that's the point. If you ever thought about a trade with Philly, it needs to be a kings ransom, anything less isn't worth playing against letang 6 times a year plus playoffs

Letang for hartnell, coutorier, 2013 1st and conditional 2014 1st.
- drummer829

Flyers fans jumping on our board are gonna be all over you with that one... How dare you put Couturier in any deal!

Why do we need an NHL ready defenseman back? Despres is ready for full time minutes and take a look at WB it's loaded with top end D talent. And how does the draft pick help us now? I'd prefer to just trade him for a young talented forward already in the league. You're honestly saying Hartnell has no place on this team? I'm not saying I'd trade Hartnell for Letang strait up but he could def be a big part of the package.
- dbell646

I fully believe they need to get a good D back in any trade. Letang plays 27+ a game, I don't see how you can say Despres or any of the other young players are ready to step in and take that role. Thanks to Bylsma, who knows where Despres stands in his development.

As for Hartnell, I want no part of a guy who description includes the words "dumb penalty".