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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:20 PM ET
what do we thing of the reported 4 year 18-22 million deal Dupuis is looking for?

What does he realistically come in at now?

- TheGame316

Too much. I don't see him getting more than $3-3.25M from us. If he gets this elsewhere, good for him. We'll be happy.

We have a few players we need to lock up soon. (read Cooke, Murray..)
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:20 PM ET
Niskanen is young too. The thing is Sbisa hasn't been a fan favorite the last couple years. Some guys on their board would trade him for a 3rd round pick....sounds like Nisky here
- Orpik44


Niskanen was probably worth a third rounder before the play-offs. His stock has dropped.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 18 @ 10:21 PM ET
I'd think you trade Niskanen for a draft pick. Free up some salary.
- drummer829

I was just looking for a win-win situation for both franchises. A pick would be cool too. If Letang goes, hope we keep Nisky though.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 18 @ 10:22 PM ET
Niskanen was probably worth a third rounder before the play-offs. His stock has dropped.
- Oneonta Penguin

A change of scenary would look good for both players. If we had to add something, it would be very little. Just food for thought.

I know, I know..."I need a reality check"
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
A change of scenary would look good for both players. If we had to add something, it would be very little. Just food for thought.

I know, I know..."I need a reality check"

- Orpik44


May I ask, where do you come up with these ideas? Some of them are so ... Edmonton Oiler fan like. This one isn't, but others ...
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 18 @ 10:26 PM ET
May I ask, where do you come up with these ideas? Some of them are so ... Edmonton Oiler fan like. This one isn't, but others ...

- Oneonta Penguin

haha just tell me one for instance. I'm in good sports tonight so I'm willing to hear you. (I know one you'll say: Letang+"something little for Shattenkirk/Oshie)

I always try to keep it real as far as value for a player goes. If I'm not accurate, it's not by much
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:28 PM ET
I wouldn't do four years for Dupuis... 3 at 3 is my limit....
Orpik44
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Jun 18 @ 10:41 PM ET
I wouldn't do four years for Dupuis... 3 at 3 is my limit....
- nelson911

Me too...this would be a fair deal, for us. Double his salary and get it done.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
haha just tell me one for instance. I'm in good sports tonight so I'm willing to hear you. (I know one you'll say: Letang+"something little for Shattenkirk/Oshie)

I always try to keep it real as far as value for a player goes. If I'm not accurate, it's not by much

- Orpik44


No need for letang with pietrangelo over there. That's like saying we need another 1st like center. If its anything, the blues need a scoring winger

I still like the idea of creating some deal with sending letang to Ana for Gibson +
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 18 @ 10:50 PM ET
No need for letang with pietrangelo over there. That's like saying we need another 1st like center. If its anything, the blues need a scoring winger

I still like the idea of creating some deal with sending letang to Ana for Gibson +

- drummer829

Gibson +? A deal would have to be around Ryan 1st right?

Ryan+ one of their goalies for Letang +.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:52 PM ET
haha just tell me one for instance. I'm in good sports tonight so I'm willing to hear you. (I know one you'll say: Letang+"something little for Shattenkirk/Oshie)

I always try to keep it real as far as value for a player goes. If I'm not accurate, it's not by much

- Orpik44



Matt Martin and Okposo for Letang and Kennedy is all the evidence you should need.
Orpik44
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Jun 18 @ 11:19 PM ET
Matt Martin and Okposo for Letang and Kennedy is all the evidence you should need.
- canadianpenfan

haha I said M.Martin or Hamonic and Okposo for Letang. Adding TK to the deal would be giving up too much
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:19 PM ET
Gibson +? A deal would have to be around Ryan 1st right?

Ryan+ one of their goalies for Letang +.

- Orpik44

Letang, Dumoulin

For

Gibson, Ryan

It is reported Ryan is being shopped...and flyers are interested... If I'm Shero this is where I swoop in
Orpik44
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Jun 18 @ 11:34 PM ET
Letang, Dumoulin

For

Gibson, Ryan

- nelson911

I'd do that. If we could swap Dumoulin for Samuelsson or Bortuzzo, even better.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 11:37 PM ET
I'd do that. If we could swap Dumoulin for Samuelsson or Bortuzzo, even better.
- Orpik44

Yep... I don't know Gibsons potential but he looked fantastic on the World Junior tourney
Orpik44
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Jun 18 @ 11:43 PM ET
Yep... I don't know Gibsons potential but he looked fantastic on the World Junior tourney
- nelson911

I think Dallas also has a young goalie they drafted a couple years ago. I think he was supposed to be good...don't remember his name.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 18 @ 11:47 PM ET
I think Dallas also has a young goalie they drafted a couple years ago. I think he was supposed to be good...don't remember his name.
- Orpik44


He's not going anywhere. Not with lehtonen coming to an end soon
Orpik44
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Jun 18 @ 11:57 PM ET
He's not going anywhere. Not with lehtonen coming to an end soon
- drummer829

Jack Campbell it is. Just remembered now. Yeah, I guess he's not going anywhere. I'd rather have Eriksson/Campbell than Ryan/Gibson, considering their contracts.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:35 AM ET
Trade Letang and Niskanen for Ryan and Sbisa.... BOOM this is what we get

FORWARDS
James Neal ($5.000m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.7m) / Beau Bennett ($0.90m)
Jussi Jokinen ($2.1m) / Brandon Sutter ($2.067m) / Pascal Dupuis ($3.0m)
Matt Cooke ($2.250m) / Joe Vitale ($0.550m) / Craig Adams ($0.675m)
DEFENSEMEN
Paul Martin ($5.000m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)
Simon Despres ($0.840m) / Luca Sbisa ($2.175m)
Brian Dumoulin ($0.900m) / Deryk Engelland ($0.567m)
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Tomas Vokoun ($2.000m)
Cap space: 1.3million
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jun 19 @ 1:13 AM ET
Rossi is calling it all over haha. Reckons Letang is good as gone.
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 03.21.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:21 AM ET
Again we'll see Lemieux talk out of both ends of his mouth, WHINING about getting the dirty stuff out of the game than turn around and resign Cooke.
- twpguy



are you telling me that leopard has not changed his spots?

Plus you do understand the irony of what you say about whining in your post?
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 19 @ 1:23 AM ET
Says the same fan base that cheered Bobby Clarke, Dave Schultz and the thousand other goons that played for that franchise. Cooke isn't even at those guys level when it comes to dirty.
- Oneonta Penguin



now, you must admit he had lost all moral compass when it comes to right/wrong on the ice.

Matt Cooke now, well he is a different player, one the team should look at keeping
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 19 @ 1:24 AM ET

Idiotic comment

- Orpik44



Is it wrong to admit you still love sesame street and the Muppets?

walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Joined: 03.21.2008

Jun 19 @ 1:27 AM ET
While I'll give you that, he did have a point. A minor, mostly misinformed point, but a point. I hate the "Oh, a FLYERS fan..." reply instead of addressing the issue that was raised. It's as bad as a Flyers fan blindly saying, "Oh, the team that has Matt Cooke wants to talk about a dirty player." See, it doesn't really address anything except that both teams have dirty players.

Mario's words came at a bad time, right before Cooke's hit (on Tyutin, I think?). Lemieux has since backed it up with his fine proposal, but no one remembers that.

- jmatchett383



Its conveniently forgotten, like most facts when it comes to good news 'stories'.

Still timing is everything and Cooke did put his owner in it.
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Jun 19 @ 1:29 AM ET
the whole #everything@in#the@world#thing throws me off
- nbartley9



it is a really good news reel though. Even if you dont 'post' you follow the topics/people you're interested in and get really good coverage. Plus you can follow those with opposing views and get a look at the whole picture.... Mind you, that can frustrate the hell out of you.
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