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Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:31 AM ET
Not one of the 5 FA

Gordon, Clarkson, Horton, Scuderi and Ference

Pick 2

- senstroll


without overpaying? I cant.

but if you insist.. gordon.. and ference

the other 3 will simply cost too much.. i bet they get absurd contracts
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:31 AM ET
Surely the Leafs can find an upgrade on Hamilton can't they?
- TML60


whats wrong with hamilton in a third line role?

nothing imo.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:33 AM ET
no no no.. i am just saying i wouldnt pay him like a 30 goal scorer

its his intangibles that impress me the most honestly

- Dozzer


ok then..that makes sense.

phew...

I am ok with 4.5 x4 years for him
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:33 AM ET
I will throw this out

Sign Boyd Gordon
Clarkson or Horton
Scuderi or Ference
Keep 1 of Grabovski or Bozak
Macarthur gone

I prefer Gordon over Brent, if we have to go with Grab, Kadri as 1/2 so be it

- senstroll

I'm with you Senstroll. Make it happen.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:34 AM ET
Kulemin had a lot of PP time in his 30 goal season.
- honesthockey


THIS

5th on the team with well over 200min

never knew why they took it away from him.. never could figure that out.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:36 AM ET
ok then..that makes sense.

phew...

I am ok with 4.5 x4 years for him

- senstroll


me too.. but i think he will get more on the open market
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 11:36 AM ET
If they were 3-4 seasons ago with drop off I'd say it's a problem but it's been the last two NHL seasons. No reason to think it can't continue.
- honesthockey



I would say it would be easy to say it HASN'T continued already.

Also you could have said the same of Kulemin.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:37 AM ET
whats wrong with hamilton in a third line role?

nothing imo.

- Dozzer

Not that fast and didn't provide much in the way of offense at the NHL level. He was great with the Marlies. Decent player but I think we should set the bar a little higher than that. Just my opinion.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 19 @ 11:40 AM ET
THIS

5th on the team with well over 200min

never knew why they took it away from him.. never could figure that out.

- Dozzer

Because he no longer deserved it.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 19 @ 11:40 AM ET
Not that fast and didn't provide much in the way of offense at the NHL level. He was great with the Marlies. Decent player but I think we should set the bar a little higher than that. Just my opinion.
- TML60


man oh man.... its always offense with you guys

hamilton wouldnt be there to score.. he would be a shutdown defensive type role.. which is very much suited for at the NHL level

and dont hand me this about speed either.. Fraser is slower than migrating dirt but he makes up for it with positioning.

markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:40 AM ET
me too.. but i think he will get more on the open market
- Dozzer


That's the issue I have as well. Sure, offer him 4.5 max and if he takes it great, but I don't see it happening.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:40 AM ET
me too.. but i think he will get more on the open market
- Dozzer


based on gonhar and streit you are right
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:41 AM ET
I am not completely ignoring it but Zajac+Elias>Grabo+Mac/JVR

(+ the fact that Clarkson is on NJ's 1st PP unit)

- markmark

*cough* Kovalchuk *cough*
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:41 AM ET
Because he no longer deserved it.
- Atomic Wedgie


5 PPG and 9 PPA

tough to call that "not producing"
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:41 AM ET
I would say it would be easy to say it HASN'T continued already.
- Dirte



Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Jun 19 @ 11:42 AM ET
based on gonhar and streit you are right
- senstroll


thats why the smartest move would be to target the effective secondary guys in FA

like Hainsey, etc.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:42 AM ET
5 PPG and 9 PPA

tough to call that "not producing"

- Dozzer

Because he looks funny
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Jun 19 @ 11:43 AM ET
Because he looks funny
- AdamFrench


THAT.... I can buy into
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 11:43 AM ET

- honesthockey


He scored thirty goals one season. 10 in the first 10 games of the next. Then barely anything for 30 plus games. That's half a season off the scoresheet.

close to 40 games.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:45 AM ET
THAT.... I can buy into
- Dozzer

He and Grabo seem to do well when they are having kids...Big Dion! Get on it, we need 50 CC's of man juice stat and eggs to fertilize!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:46 AM ET
He and Grabo seem to do well when they are having kids...Big Dion! Get on it, we need 50 CC's of man juice stat and eggs to fertilize!
- AdamFrench


judging by his voice his balls havent dropped yet so i wouldnt count on him
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:48 AM ET
man oh man.... its always offense with you guys

hamilton wouldnt be there to score.. he would be a shutdown defensive type role.. which is very much suited for at the NHL level

and dont hand me this about speed either.. Fraser is slower than migrating dirt but he makes up for it with positioning.

- Dozzer

No, not all about offense with me. But I'd rather have Clarkson on the team instead of Hamilton. I'm not saying Hamilton wasn't a good role player and I like role players as much as the next fan. I'm just saying the Leafs have to upgrade at whatever position they can to keep improving. Every other team will be looking to upgrade at whatever position they can too so the Leafs shouldn't be satisfied with the status quo.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
man oh man.... its always offense with you guys

hamilton wouldnt be there to score.. he would be a shutdown defensive type role.. which is very much suited for at the NHL level

and dont hand me this about speed either.. Fraser is slower than migrating dirt but he makes up for it with positioning.

- Dozzer


meh ...Hamilton is a nice little story but he's played 12 NHL games at the age of 28 for a reason. Leafs can do better on the 3rd line.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
thats why the smartest move would be to target the effective secondary guys in FA

like Hainsey, etc.

- Dozzer

Hainsey is garbage except in his contract years, sign him for 1 year
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
thats why the smartest move would be to target the effective secondary guys in FA

like Hainsey, etc.

- Dozzer


Agreed. As someone mentioned earlier, a partner for Gardiner.

Pha9-Gunnar
Gardiner- (A reliable defender who can also make a decent pass)
Franson-Fraser
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