i honestly think the cheapest safe bet would be Hainsey... I think he would do a nice job here.. brings a lot of whats missing and he wont be a primary target for anyone (I think).. could be had for cheap
- Dozzer

Have you jumped on the phone with Nonis yet, and put this master plan into action?

I was hoping somebody would catch that
- AdamFrench

I have a degree in English, sir.

Have you jumped on the phone with Nonis yet, and put this master plan into action?
- bixll

hey.. i think he'd be a good fit thats all!

What are you ? His agent or something ?

PS ... I agree on Haisey ( depending on price )
- .HOHO.

nah, just got real drunk one night and bought a hainsey leafs jersey in some alley...havent been able to wear it yet

i honestly think the cheapest safe bet would be Hainsey... I think he would do a nice job here.. brings a lot of whats missing and he wont be a primary target for anyone (I think).. could be had for cheap
- Dozzer

I have to imagine WPG will re-sign one of the two. Hainsey does eat up a lot of minutes on avg which is good. His numbers weren't awful either considering they had the sieve Pavelec behind him.

I have to imagine WPG will re-sign one of the two. Hainsey does eat up a lot of minutes on avg which is good. His numbers weren't awful either considering they had the sieve Pavelec behind him.
- markmark

i know... two reasons i think he might wanna go

one: pavelec makes him look worse than he is

two: he has to live in winnipeg

I have to imagine WPG will re-sign one of the two. Hainsey does eat up a lot of minutes on avg which is good. His numbers weren't awful either considering they had the sieve Pavelec behind him.
- markmark

They also were missing Enstrom for a lot of the year, he usually eats 24 minutes a night.

I wouldn't go near that kind of money. He's not even close to worth that. And I STILL suspect he signs for more. The Stalberg idea above is better.

I'd actually like Briere. Give him a try centering Kessel and Lupul.
- Dirte

That's why I said he's overpaid at that amount. I personally don't think he's worth more than 3 mil per year for 3 years. But people are saying he's going to get 5 to 5.5. The question was would I give him a long term contract at 5 mil so the answer is no. He's probably overpriced at 4.5 or 4 mill. But, as I stated earlier, that's the problem with free agency. Someone will overpay. If I had to pay him out of my own pocket I wouldn't want to pay him more than 3 million (not that I have that kind of money). But is he going to sign for 3 mill? No. But does all that mean the Leafs shouldn't look for an upgrade on Hamilton? That was my original point.

i honestly think the cheapest safe bet would be Hainsey... I think he would do a nice job here.. brings a lot of whats missing and he wont be a primary target for anyone (I think).. could be had for cheap
- Dozzer

he made 4.5 last season..whats cheap? 4? is he going to get less than that now?

I just checked..he has never been on a team that made the playoffs
almost 600 games...hes the new Jay B.

he made 4.5 last season..whats cheap? 4? is he going to get less than that now?

I just checked..he has never been on a team that made the playoffs
almost 600 games...hes the new Jay B.
- senstroll

he made 4.5 last season..whats cheap? 4? is he going to get less than that now?

I just checked..he has never been on a team that made the playoffs
almost 600 games...hes the new Jay B.
- senstroll

he should go for 3-3.25 i bet. that 4.5million was a contract he signed when he was still projected as being a PMD. that never panned out so he re-invented himself as a solid stay at home guy.

i am sure he must know his big paydays are over.

he should go for 3-3.25 i bet. that 4.5million was a contract he signed when he was still projected as being a PMD. that never panned out so he re-invented himself as a solid stay at home guy.

i am sure he must know his big paydays are over.
- Dozzer

Are you sure you're not talking about Derek Morris?

Are you sure you're not talking about Derek Morris?
- AdamFrench

its a blanket statement for a few guys in the league lol

i honestly think the cheapest safe bet would be Hainsey... I think he would do a nice job here.. brings a lot of whats missing and he wont be a primary target for anyone (I think).. could be had for cheap
- Dozzer

Hainsey would be a good pick up, heck even ference.. but i think scuderi will be resigned by LA

That's why I said he's overpaid at that amount. I personally don't think he's worth more than 3 mil per year for 3 years. But people are saying he's going to get 5 to 5.5. The question was would I give him a long term contract at 5 mil so the answer is no. He's probably overpriced at 4.5 or 4 mill. But, as I stated earlier, that's the problem with free agency. Someone will overpay. If I had to pay him out of my own pocket I wouldn't want to pay him more than 3 million (not that I have that kind of money). But is he going to sign for 3 mill? No. But does all that mean the Leafs shouldn't look for an upgrade on Hamilton? That was my original point.
- TML60

Okay, then you’re basically agreeing that Clarkson isn’t something the Leafs should reasonably pursue this summer. For all the reasons we’ve been pointing out.

its a blanket statement for a few guys in the league lol
- Dozzer

"I'm old and useless and nobody will let me play 5 minutes on the PP anymore...HEY LOOK GM'S I'M A SHUTDOWN GUY NOW!!!!!|

Signed,

Derek Morris, Ron Hainsey, Rostislav Klesla, Michal Rozsival, Eric Brewer, Johnny Oduya...Anton Stralman , Brad Stuart and Toni Lydman. I guess you could add Braydon Coburn in there too.

Wow I missed the king himself, Adrian Aucoin

"I'm old and useless and nobody will let me play 5 minutes on the PP anymore...HEY LOOK GM'S I'M A SHUTDOWN GUY NOW!!!!!|

Signed,

Derek Morris, Ron Hainsey, Rostislav Klesla, Michal Rozsival, Eric Brewer, Johnny Oduya...Anton Stralman , Brad Stuart and Toni Lydman. I guess you could add Braydon Coburn in there too.

Wow I missed the king himself, Adrian Aucoin
- AdamFrench

Brewer and Oduya are legit not bad defensively.

Brewer and Oduya are legit not bad defensively.
- Dirte

None of those guys really are, but they all had to change their game up a little as they got pushed out of their comfort zone.

Brewer and the Pizza man still make a lot of brutal plays though.

Okay, then you’re basically agreeing that Clarkson isn’t something the Leafs should reasonably pursue this summer. For all the reasons we’ve been pointing out.
- Dirte

No, I never said they shouldn't pursue him. Just the opposite. But what I'm willing to pay is not what gm's are willing to pay and it's not coming out of my pocket. Nonis should do his due diligence as any other gm will do. I won't be upset if Nonis overpays for Clarkson and he helps the Leafs win. I won't be upset if Nonis brings in someone cheaper and he helps the Leafs win. I won't be thrilled if Hamilton is still in the lineup next year. Sometimes you have to overpay to get the player. Just ask Bobby Clarke about the Lindros trade. I believe BC acknowledged he overpaid but he got the player he wanted. That's life in the NHL. Gotta get to work now. Nice chatting with you.

Hainsey would be a good pick up, heck even ference.. but i think scuderi will be resigned by LA
- Mapleleafs_91

yeah.. its the time of year where every fan dreams of that special UFA signing with their team vaulting them into pure awesomeness.

3 years at 4.75 mill. I'm not a fan of contracts longer than 3 or 4 years. If he wants to sign in Toronto at that price and term, then that's great. Even at 4.75 he might be overpriced but I'm sure Nonis will try to sign some UFA and I won't be surprised if he makes an offer to Clarkson. But don't forget there are other factors, such as what other players out there want to sign in TO and what trades are available. All I've said is I'd like Clarkson or a similar player on the team next year and I don't think the Leafs should settle for keeping Hamilton on the big club.
- TML60

Unfortunately, the players are.

Clarkson will want a five year deal, taking him to age 34, so he can sign one more deal and not have teams scared away by the 35+ deelio.

He's getting a five year deal. For more money than he is worth.

That's just how the cookie crumbles.

"I'm old and useless and nobody will let me play 5 minutes on the PP anymore...HEY LOOK GM'S I'M A SHUTDOWN GUY NOW!!!!!|

Signed,

Derek Morris, Ron Hainsey, Rostislav Klesla, Michal Rozsival, Eric Brewer, Johnny Oduya...Anton Stralman , Brad Stuart and Toni Lydman. I guess you could add Braydon Coburn in there too.

Wow I missed the king himself, Adrian Aucoin
- AdamFrench

as long as they can still skate half assed and arent afraid to hit.. good.. they'll come cheap..

OH! I GOT IT!!

THEY'RE THE BUSCH BEER OF THE NHL!!!

nobody really wants them, but they come cheap and will do when there is a lack of something better

Unfortunately, the players are.

Clarkson will want a five year deal, taking him to age 34, so he can sign one more deal and not have teams scared away by the 35+ deelio.

He's getting a five year deal. For more money than he is worth.

That's just how the cookie crumbles.
- Atomic Wedgie

i bet clarkson signs 5 years at somewhere around 5.75million.. he wont get six.. but he'll get upper five

as long as they can still skate half assed and arent afraid to hit.. good.. they'll come cheap..

OH! I GOT IT!!

THEY'RE THE BUSCH BEER OF THE NHL!!!

nobody really wants them, but they come cheap and will do when there is a lack of something better
- Dozzer

I prefer The Law's analogy of how Bozak is like an Ikea coffee table, but this is pretty good.

None of those guys really are, but they all had to change their game up a little as they got pushed out of their comfort zone.

Brewer and the Pizza man still make a lot of brutal plays though.
- AdamFrench

One thing last season showed us is that Randy Carlyle can get a fair bit out of a pretty mediocre defense corps