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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
I'd be fine with this roster.

Plus, we still have "Pronger Dollars" to spend.

- johndewar



Plus Bourdon could be waived. And they also can get a lot more room by using the Bonus Cushion.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
That's still a heck of a trade. End of the line Forsberg for Parent, Upshall, Timonen, and Hartnell.
- jmatchett383


Bill's fears never came to fruition. Very good deal then and now.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
@tpanotchCSN - Flyers would move Matt Read in a deal for Bernier. But Kings would likely want Jakub Voracek as main piece - speed, scoring.
- BulliesPhan87


I would likely want Voracek if I were the Kings too although I'd prefer Giroux.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
@tpanotchCSN - Flyers would move Matt Read in a deal for Bernier. But Kings would likely want Jakub Voracek as main piece - speed, scoring.
- BulliesPhan87



*click*
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
I would likely want Voracek if I were the Kings too although I'd prefer Giroux.
- NickTheKid87


Again, they'd have to include the rights to Penner for Giroux
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
maybe laught, but i just swa the kings want cooter for bernier..is this a joke or are they giving us more back?
- mydoglicks



did anyone besides pinnochio say it?

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
Here, LA, take all of the LOLs.

You can't have Jake Voracek for your backup goaltender.

Enjoy the 2nd round pick when he gets an offer sheet!

- johndewar



There's no reason for Lombardi to not aim high right now. There is plenty of time. An Offer Sheet is not really a threat to LA, because Bernier is likely going to be dealt before July 5th.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
@tpanotchCSN - Flyers would move Matt Read in a deal for Bernier. But Kings would likely want Jakub Voracek as main piece - speed, scoring.
- BulliesPhan87


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
I actually think for Flyers to get to 5, they are going to have to include Edmonton. Both Edmonton and Carolina have said they are willing to trade down. So I would assume Meszaors, 11th, and 2nd to Edmonton for 7th overall, and Coburn and 7th overall for 5th overall and the rights to Corvo.
- youarewrong


that might be do able, but loosing both Coburn and Mezzy would hurt.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
did anyone besides pinnochio say it?
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Everyone is throwing out trades on twitter now for Bernier since he switched agents.

Carchidi asked people if they would trade Couturier AND the 1st round pick for Bernier.

I wouldn't even give up Couturier for Bernier in a straight up deal, let alone toss in a 1st round pick.

If they won't take Matt Read (and I'm not entirely sure I'm even comfortable with that), then I hang up the phone and tell them to enjoy whatever compensation they get for when Bernier gets an offer sheet.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
So Coburn, Meszaros, 11th overall, and 2nd for 5th overall and rights to another PP specialist?
- jmatchett383


That would be about the right price believe it or not.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
@tpanotchCSN - Flyers would move Matt Read in a deal for Bernier. But Kings would likely want Jakub Voracek as main piece - speed, scoring.
- BulliesPhan87


Hang up the phone homer...i dont think they can take Voracek because of the cap hit he carries anyways. They still have voynov to sign. Read makes way more sense for them to take, he can help right away and he is cheap for another year.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
There's no reason for Lombardi to not aim high right now. There is plenty of time. An Offer Sheet is not really a threat to LA, because Bernier is likely going to be dealt before July 5th.
- MJL


I don't disagree, but I didn't mean to imply that the Flyers should be the team to give him that offer sheet.

I was speaking more in terms of letting Lombardi deal with another team and walk away entirely.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
Lombardi can ask for the moon, but it's really a buyers mkt for goalies. maybe homer realizes that this time...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
Everyone is throwing out trades on twitter now for Bernier since he switched agents.

Carchidi asked people if they would trade Couturier AND the 1st round pick for Bernier.

I wouldn't even give up Couturier for Bernier in a straight up deal, let alone toss in a 1st round pick.

If they won't take Matt Read (and I'm not entirely sure I'm even comfortable with that), then I hang up the phone and tell them to enjoy whatever compensation they get for when Bernier gets an offer sheet.

- johndewar



This is hilarious. I love our local media folk

who here would go Read and our 2nd for bernier? I wouldnt
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
Everyone is throwing out trades on twitter now for Bernier since he switched agents.

Carchidi asked people if they would trade Couturier AND the 1st round pick for Bernier.

I wouldn't even give up Couturier for Bernier in a straight up deal, let alone toss in a 1st round pick.

If they won't take Matt Read (and I'm not entirely sure I'm even comfortable with that), then I hang up the phone and tell them to enjoy whatever compensation they get for when Bernier gets an offer sheet.

- johndewar


Meh,

He knows that proposal is garbage. He is just fishing for hits.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
Everyone is throwing out trades on twitter now for Bernier since he switched agents.

Carchidi asked people if they would trade Couturier AND the 1st round pick for Bernier.

I wouldn't even give up Couturier for Bernier in a straight up deal, let alone toss in a 1st round pick.

If they won't take Matt Read (and I'm not entirely sure I'm even comfortable with that), then I hang up the phone and tell them to enjoy whatever compensation they get for when Bernier gets an offer sheet.

- johndewar


Conversation should go like this:

Holmgren: "We can offer Matt Read and a 2nd for Bernier."
Lombardi: "Sorry Paul, it's going to take Couturier and a first. Hello? Hello?"

Conversation most likely goes like this:

Holmgren: "We can offer Matt Read and a 2nd for Bernier."
Lombardi: "Sorry Paul, it's going to take Couturier and a first."
Holmgren: "Include a 2nd and 3rd and it's a deal."
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Lombardi can ask for the moon, but it's really a buyers mkt for goalies. maybe homer realizes that this time...
- isaiah520


Eh, I'm not too sure about that.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Lombardi can ask for the moon, but it's really a buyers mkt for goalies. maybe homer realizes that this time...
- isaiah520


Would you do Laughton for Bernier?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Would you do Laughton for Bernier?
- Jimmygrazz


Grudgingly yes, but I'd rather try to work a deal around Cousins if we're using prospects.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull

So would you deal Couturier and a No. 1 for Bernier? Just wondering.... #flyers #Kings
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
read's cap hit makes him a tremendous trade asset right now...that said, I'd rather keep him if possible. there are enuf goalies out there that will not require expending assets for...
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
Conversation should go like this:

Holmgren: "We can offer Matt Read and a 2nd for Bernier."
Lombardi: "Sorry Paul, it's going to take Couturier and a first. Hello? Hello?"

Conversation most likely goes like this:

Holmgren: "We can offer Matt Read and a 2nd for Bernier."
Lombardi: "Sorry Paul, it's going to take Couturier and a first."
Holmgren: "Include a 2nd and 3rd and it's a deal."

- jmatchett383


The above converstation makes me regret we do not have the technology to reach through the phone to slap the poop out of someone.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
When did Bernier become a young Lundqvist? He has barely played in the NHL. His resume is no better than Ben Bishop.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
read's cap hit makes him a tremendous trade asset right now...that said, I'd rather keep him if possible. there are enuf goalies out there that will not require expending assets for...
- isaiah520


General rule of thumb: Do not give up good assets for goaltending, and do not overpay for goaltending.
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