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flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:46 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy


Congrats dude!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:49 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy

Congrats!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:50 PM ET
Scott Mitchell ‏@SUNMitchell 12m

According to a solid source, #LAKings and #Flyers are talking G Jonathan Bernier for 11th-overall pick, plus.

- Vukota


oh god
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 5:50 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy


Congrats on the addition!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy

Congratulations to the three of you on the new member of the family and congrats to your extended family.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
oh god
- Just5


That's just gonna make many very angry.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:54 PM ET
oh god
- Just5

Relax, the dude's a Stampeders beat writer.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
I know its unlikely but I would be happy with a few more simple moves by the Flyers. Knowing them, they'll be close to a dozen.

Slightly over the cap but that could be solved by Pronger's LTIR $$$

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Simon Gagne ($2.000m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Ryan Jones ($1.500m)
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
That's just gonna make many very angry.
- ob18

No way that is true.

The Flyers will not trade that pick until they are on the clock at the draft, if at all. Look what happened two years ago when Columbus traded the 9th overall prior to the draft.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy

Thats a big F in baby.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:55 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy

Awesome, congrats! Looks like ya got a young Zdeno Chara on your hands, start his training immediately!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:58 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy

Awesome!

Congrats to you and Mrs Skip. The best news I have heard all day
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:00 PM ET
No way that is true.

The Flyers will not trade that pick until they are on the clock at the draft, if at all. Look what happened two years ago when Columbus traded the 9th overall prior to the draft.

- hereticpride


More of it coming.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 6:00 PM ET
NHL RUMOR LEAKER RT @anonymousblogs: #Leafs & #Kings are very close to announcing a deal for Jonathan Bernier. Trade is pending #Flyers call back LA and up their offer.


and so it begins

have no idea who this joker is
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:00 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy

Congratulations. You should have been a king. All the begetting of boys.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 6:01 PM ET
NHL RUMOR LEAKER RT @anonymousblogs: #Leafs & #Kings are very close to announcing a deal for Jonathan Bernier. Trade is pending #Flyers call back LA and up their offer.


and so it begins

have no idea who this joker is

- isaiah520


I just saw another that has Read and Coburn going for Bernier and a forward, be done by the weekend.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
I just saw another that has Read and Coburn going for Bernier and a forward, be done by the weekend.
- Jsaquella

yea, i saw that too. i don't get the rush. they can buyout bryz and there will be enuf guys out there...esp if they like mason. there aren't enuf teams that need goalies to panic. but you know what that means.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:21 PM ET
I know its unlikely but I would be happy with a few more simple moves by the Flyers. Knowing them, they'll be close to a dozen.

Slightly over the cap but that could be solved by Pronger's LTIR $$$

- Baxter27


Could easily waive Gervais and send him down, and his Cap hit would be off. Or trade Meszaros. That would easily give the Cap space needed. Although I don't see getting Gagne to sign for 2M.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 6:21 PM ET
yea, i saw that too. i don't get the rush. they can buyout bryz and there will be enuf guys out there...esp if they like mason. there aren't enuf teams that need goalies to panic. but you know what that means.
- isaiah520


I could see something if they really wanted Bernier. But as Bill illustrated in his last blog, Lombardi is a bit over a barrel. He can shop Bernier, but if it gets past the draft, somebody is gonna go the offer sheet route and force him to spend $9mm on goalies or accept losing Bernier for a 2nd rounder.

Other GMs will know this, and with the CBO's there's going to be a poopload of options. Zero need to overpay for Bernier.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:31 PM ET
1974/1975 only cups
- NYI44


I agree. It's ridiculous and it sucks
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
I could see something if they really wanted Bernier. But as Bill illustrated in his last blog, Lombardi is a bit over a barrel. He can shop Bernier, but if it gets past the draft, somebody is gonna go the offer sheet route and force him to spend $9mm on goalies or accept losing Bernier for a 2nd rounder.

Other GMs will know this, and with the CBO's there's going to be a poopload of options. Zero need to overpay for Bernier.
-Jsaquella


I agree. The Kings have really put themselves in tough situation. Bernier may have gotten a first last year, but not this year. Teams know they can't match an offer at 3.3M.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 6:34 PM ET
I could see something if they really wanted Bernier. But as Bill illustrated in his last blog, Lombardi is a bit over a barrel. He can shop Bernier, but if it gets past the draft, somebody is gonna go the offer sheet route and force him to spend $9mm on goalies or accept losing Bernier for a 2nd rounder.

Other GMs will know this, and with the CBO's there's going to be a poopload of options. Zero need to overpay for Bernier.

- Jsaquella

zero need is right. i listened to Tim and it's funny how panicky he sounds. we'll see if they learned anything about supply and demand from the bryz/vokoun fiasco.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 6:36 PM ET
Relax, the dude's a Stampeders beat writer.
- mayorofangrytown


Yea but it's so flyers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:36 PM ET
zero need is right. i listened to Tim and it's funny how panicky he sounds. we'll see if they learned anything about supply and demand from the bryz/vokoun fiasco.
- isaiah520


Supply and demand doesn't come into play when there are two available Goalies. And you only have interest in one of them.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:39 PM ET
Why dont we just offer a 2nd and Cousins and get this over with? Kings can send back a later pick too if that makes the Flyers feel better

2nd & Cousins

for

Bernier & 4th
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