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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
The following is a list of adjectives that might be used to describe the Hawks PP...

The Hawks PP is________________


abominable, amiss, atrocious, awful, bad news, beastly, blah, bottom out, bummer, careless, cheap, cheesy, crappy, cruddy, crummy, defective, deficient, diddly, dissatisfactory, downer, dreadful, erroneous, fallacious, faulty, garbage, godawful, grody, gross, grungy, icky, imperfect, inadequate, incorrect, inferior, junky, lousy, not good, off, poor, raunchy, rough, sad, slipshod, stinking, substandard, synthetic, the pits, unacceptable, unsatisfactory.

Take your pick.

- Ogilthorpe2


I'll just stick with CRAP.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
Carcillo must be way down on the depth chart . Q could have put him in the lineup last night instead of Smith or Stalberg
- jhawk159


I didn't think Smitty looked all that bad last night.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
The following is a list of adjectives that might be used to describe the Hawks PP...

The Hawks PP is________________


abominable, amiss, atrocious, awful, bad news, beastly, blah, bottom out, bummer, careless, cheap, cheesy, crappy, cruddy, crummy, defective, deficient, diddly, dissatisfactory, downer, dreadful, erroneous, fallacious, faulty, garbage, godawful, grody, gross, grungy, icky, imperfect, inadequate, incorrect, inferior, junky, lousy, not good, off, poor, raunchy, rough, sad, slipshod, stinking, substandard, synthetic, the pits, unacceptable, unsatisfactory.

Take your pick.

- Ogilthorpe2


All of the above?
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jun 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
PLAIN & SIMPLE ELI, KOMPON BLOWS& UNTIL SB OR MR CUB T E L L Q TO LAUNCH HIM, NOTHING W I L L CHANGE!
even though we beat the kings, when Q brought this stiff on I bet Darryl Sutter was laughing his balls off saying "SUCKERS!"

- wonthecup10


Was he laughing when we started the season with the most games without a loss, or when we eliminated his team from the playoffs?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
Boston's Power Play in this years playoffs have 9 goals
Hawks Power Play in this years playoffs have 7 goals

Both are not great

Power Killing in this era is dominant across the board

- PEIHawkFan

This post season, the Bruins have 2 more goals in 8 fewer attempts. Plus the only thing that matters right now is PP % in this series...Boston's winning that battle, and even when they're not scoring on the PP, they are much more of a threat to score than we ever are. Our PP is not only not scoring, it's shifting momentum to Boston. It's wholly unacceptable.
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
Shooting high is selfish? HUH?
- paulr

This like 8 hours later, but yes shooting high is selfish, especially when the Bruins push you to the outside. Shoot to pass, get pucks off the pads. Pass of pads is a fantastic way to score. Not really a new or complicated hockey concept
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:38 PM ET
I didn't think Smitty looked all that bad last night.
- EKolb13


He was as good as could be expected.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:40 PM ET
I still think it because of the refs giving him no breaks. I really don't think he is that bad a player. But you are right in q's eyes he is down the chart. But hawks need a spark. Someone that hits. Most of the bruins are about his size and they all play physical. We need someone to match them
- tomcat24


Carcillo? Maybe when the Hawks are down 3-1 in the series and absolutely desperate. The Hawks get them same play Carcillo can bring out of Shaw, and honestly, Shaw does a better job of it.

What the Hawks need, at least for starters, is to score a goddamn powerplay goal. If the Hawks could convert on a couple of powerplays, maybe Boston backs off on some of the physical play?
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
Voyanov just signed for $4.1m cap hit for 6 years. Streit will be higher. A large salary would need to go to make that happen.

That V deal should set a ceiling for Leddy though.

Maybe get him for 6 year in the 3.5ms?

- tredbrta

I don't know how anyone could watch the Kings Hawks series and say Voynov and Leddy deserve anywhere near the same compensation
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
He was as good as could be expected.
- DarthKane


I thought he was more noticeable than Stalberg.
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Jun 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
He was as good as could be expected.
- DarthKane


With no warm ups
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:42 PM ET
All of the above?
- DarthKane


Good call.
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:43 PM ET
I thought he was more noticeable than Stalberg.
- EKolb13

Effort or lack there of on that goal is something I can't get over, he just stood there frozen, and I can't get over it
PaulNewman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Romeoville, IL
Joined: 02.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:45 PM ET
I still think it because of the refs giving him no breaks. I really don't think he is that bad a player. But you are right in q's eyes he is down the chart. But hawks need a spark. Someone that hits. Most of the bruins are about his size and they all play physical. We need someone to match them
- tomcat24

Spot on! Isn't this the reason the Hawks signed him in the first place? The Hawks need to be more physical and Carbomb can bring it. Now would be a good time to use him. Unless he is hurt he needs to be in there tomorrow night. Like Ben Smith but not now!
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
Carcillo? Maybe when the Hawks are down 3-1 in the series and absolutely desperate. The Hawks get them same play Carcillo can bring out of Shaw, and honestly, Shaw does a better job of it.

What the Hawks need, at least for starters, is to score a goddamn powerplay goal. If the Hawks could convert on a couple of powerplays, maybe Boston backs off on some of the physical play?

- EKolb13

A pp goal would definitely be huge. But I don't see boston laying off the rough stuff even if they do score. That is who they are. And all their hits are tiring out the hawks, especially the D. Shaw is better than Carcillo, but I think we need another person to hit
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:53 PM ET
This post season, the Bruins have 2 more goals in 8 fewer attempts. Plus the only thing that matters right now is PP % in this series...Boston's winning that battle, and even when they're not scoring on the PP, they are much more of a threat to score than we ever are. Our PP is not only not scoring, it's shifting momentum to Boston. It's wholly unacceptable.
- Ogilthorpe2

All true


If everyone in Chicago new how to fix it they would
Just saying that any team that counts on the PP to win games is in for a disappointment
Power Killing with shot blocking...clogging the shooting lanes and goal tending has been perfected in this league
The games need and will be won 5 on 5
The stats bear this out
so get over it

When the Hawks win game 4 which contrary to this board I think they will
Everyone will be singing a different tune


tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
Effort or lack there of on that goal is something I can't get over, he just stood there frozen, and I can't get over it
- rollpards19

Yeah I'm still not sure whose man that was but he Was right there. This team just doesn't seem to think or react fast enough. But, it also was a broken play that happened so quickly. It all started in boston's end, too. Bolland waits too long to pass it, they knock it off his stick and go the other way. Leddy I think just sent a weak clearing attempt that was easily read and held in. Bolland has his pocket picked and a quick setup to paille
ilinkhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:57 PM ET
All true


If everyone in Chicago new how to fix it they would
Just saying that any team that counts on the PP to win games is in for a disappointment
Power Killing with shot blocking...clogging the shooting lanes and goal tending has been perfected in this league
The games need and will be won 5 on 5
The stats bear this out
so get over it

When the Hawks win game 4 which contrary to this board I think they will
Everyone will be singing a different tune

- PEIHawkFan


I think the key is not to give up the PP. You have to stay out of the box. 3 penalties for one guy is completely unacceptable.... People can throw the invisible word out all they want. Stupid penalties kill more than anything. Even if the other team doesn't score- it is a complete momentum killer.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
Spot on! Isn't this the reason the Hawks signed him in the first place? The Hawks need to be more physical and Carbomb can bring it. Now would be a good time to use him. Unless he is hurt he needs to be in there tomorrow night. Like Ben Smith but not now!
- PaulNewman

Putting in Carcillo will not happen
The team philosophy is not built around his style
Not right not wrong but it is too late to shift 67 games in
The team is what it is win or lose
You dance with who you brought
Debate the philosophy in the off season but the team is built on moving the puck quickly from our end to theirs and built on team speed and timely scoring
Win or lose it is what it is and the bangers will sit
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
With no warm ups
- coldsteelonice

Which proves, IMO, Q was full of sh!t when he says that what happened in the warmup had nothing to do with Hossa being out. If they knew there was a chance Hossa might be out (ie game time decision), then Smith would have warmed up just in case.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
Spot on! Isn't this the reason the Hawks signed him in the first place? The Hawks need to be more physical and Carbomb can bring it. Now would be a good time to use him. Unless he is hurt he needs to be in there tomorrow night. Like Ben Smith but not now!
- PaulNewman

Yeah teams get big lifts from huge hits. Plus it can wear down the juicer and seidenberg. They have had a pretty easy series. Mcquad, though, has taken some huge hits from shaw.
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
I think the key is not to give up the PP. You have to stay out of the box. 3 penalties for one guy is completely unacceptable.... People can throw the invisible word out all they want. Stupid penalties kill more than anything. Even if the other team doesn't score- it is a complete momentum killer.
- ilinkhawk

Agreed good post
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Which proves, IMO, Q was full of sh!t when he says that what happened in the warmup had nothing to do with Hossa being out. If they knew there was a chance Hossa might be out (ie game time decision), then Smith would have warmed up just in case.
- Ogilthorpe2

Agreed
It was very strange to dress Mayers for the warm up an d then track down Smith at the last minute
WTF
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Was he laughing when we started the season with the most games without a loss, or when we eliminated his team from the playoffs?
- Hemingways


Was wondering that myself. I also think that statement is false because Daryl Sutter is physically incapable of laughter. The expression he often wears could be characterized as if were a pickle sucking on a lemon (word it the other way and it could be misconstrued and general fodder for the board).
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
All true


If everyone in Chicago new how to fix it they would
Just saying that any team that counts on the PP to win games is in for a disappointment
Power Killing with shot blocking...clogging the shooting lanes and goal tending has been perfected in this league
The games need and will be won 5 on 5
The stats bear this out
so get over it

When the Hawks win game 4 which contrary to this board I think they will
Everyone will be singing a different tune

- PEIHawkFan


Scoring on the power play will make the Bruins think twice about the hooking and holding and create more scoring opportunities five on five. Right now the bruins can defend on the edge of the rules and if the ref calls a penalty, no big deal. If the Hawks PP is actually scary, then five on five opens up too.
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