I'm not sure why it's PC to treat people with respect: when you use terms that apply to women as an insult, it's not treating them with respect.

Tired of hearing that PC bullpoop: treat people with respect.
- StLBravesFan

I thought the post was talking about denigrating people by calling them women? That using women's names etc... as an insult is inappropriate as it is disrespectful of the group.

If this is about respecting people there is no argument.... that is unless they post here by immediately disrespecting everyone here and require disrespect back.... Since moderators apparently will not moderate here.

MArchand tried to get Shaw's arm tied up with a half jersey pull but pretty much turtled while standing. Ended up with M flat on the ice and Shaw threw a punch down at him but the officials were there.

M had the chance to drop them right away and it would have been a real fight but he is obviously not going to do that.
- tredbrta

That's the problem I have with him. It's bad enough to be a dirty player and run your mouth, but to run away when you get called on it ...

"bigger in terms of playing style"

I am copyrighting this. This is my theme for 2013-14.
- John Jaeckel

Agreed.............Playing style equates to energy and guts !! To which we do not have enough of with this core !

This Quenneville presser is embarrassing. Didn't skate Smith in the warmups to not tip his hand to the Bruins that Smith was likely to play...wow. Way to hide the fact Ben "Gretzky" Smith was in the lineup. If you're so worried about tipping your hand to the Bruins why declare 30 hours before Game 4 that Hossa is likely to play???

This has become a circus of sad proportions.
- PhatJoeSki

Wow! Embellisher of epic proportions!

- He didn't tip the hand because the Bruins knowing that Hossa wasn't playing would have indeed been an advantage. Them not knowing that was indeed an advantage for the Hawks. There is zero surprise now if Hossa doesn't play in Game 4.

- Q also didn't want to tell Smith - as he also explained - as to help the kid with his nerves. Last second element of surprise.

This Quenneville presser is embarrassing. Didn't skate Smith in the warmups to not tip his hand to the Bruins that Smith was likely to play...wow. Way to hide the fact Ben "Gretzky" Smith was in the lineup. If you're so worried about tipping your hand to the Bruins why declare 30 hours before Game 4 that Hossa is likely to play???

This has become a circus of sad proportions.
- PhatJoeSki

+1

It is becoming a bit ridiculous.. way too much over-thinking going on right now.

Yes, no one has been able to answer that. Why review a play when the ref has it (or is calling it) dead. It is a copout that saves the refs a$$ from missing a call. That is all it is! F that.
- powerenforcer

And it is used constantly as an excuse by these officials just like Saturday.

I am not going to call the officiating yet as bad as the Wings series - but it is getting closer. That was another crucial goal stolen by incompetence.

You can sense how bad the call was by the anger of the official after the call. That guy, like Walkom, was screaming from start to finish.

Just silly to dwell on a player like Stalberg as if he is going to be a huge difference maker in this series. The team needs production from the players that are paid accordingly - Kane, Toews, Sharp, Keith, Hossa, Seabrook. (A goal like Bergeron scored last night). Without that, the team won't win.

There may be no physical reason he can't kill penalties, the problem with him is that defensive intelligence and an apparent incapability of clearing his own zone at any time is what keeps him in Q's bow-wow garage.
- RickJ

Not dwelling on Stalberg - the post was just part of a discussion Jaekel and I were having about some who insist the Hawks need to be bigger - while he, I and others have commented that it isn't more size needed (as Boston is acutally about the same) its grit and commitment. Stalberg is just an example of this dynamic, along with Kane, Saad, etc.

I agree that our star players need to step forward, however, in a series like this - 1st and 2nd lines can cancel each other out and sometimes the intangibles on 3rd and 4th lines can make a difference. In situations like this, Stalberg could be a difference maker - either for the positive or the negative.

That's the problem I have with him. It's bad enough to be a dirty player and run your mouth, but to run away when you get called on it ...
- Q...argh

Marchand would be wise to NOT drop the gloves with Shaw as I think Shaw would light him up. Remember this is an Andrew Shaw with the stones to drop the gloves with Rinaldo, who's one tough hombre'....

Wow! Embellisher of epic proportions!

- He didn't tip the hand because the Bruins knowing that Hossa wasn't playing would have indeed been an advantage. Them not knowing that was indeed an advantage for the Hawks. There is zero surprise now if Hossa doesn't play in Game 4.

- Q also didn't want to tell Smith - as he also explained - as to help the kid with his nerves. Last second element of surprise.
- CaptainBlackhawk

he can't take warmups without knowing? come on now...

Even though we deserved to lose game two by the poor way we played, that goal should've counted and we should've won that game. Can't go back in time though.
- Q...argh

True.

Has it been released why he was out?
- glove_was_stuck

Follow hockey much? When do they announce an injury during a series?

You really are here just to troll.

I see the present fine. The Hawks have surprised many of us this year with SCF appearance. They have a truly young core and 1 of the top 5 prospect systems in hockey. In spite of the calls here for the FO and CS heads the future is obviously good.
- tredbrta

I agree what many posters here are stating that you are missing size, but I also read that JJ stated the two teams are on average the same size.

I think the biggest difference is Chara and Lucic, as mentioned before, not many NHL teams have answers for these guys.

Marchand would be wise to NOT drop the gloves with Shaw as I think Shaw would light him up. Remember this is an Andrew Shaw with the stones to drop the gloves with Rinaldo, whose a pretty tough guy.
- kwolf68

I'd obviously be rooting for Shawzer to light up The Beak....but The Beak is wiry l'il prrrrrrrrrrrrick. Anything could happen with two welterweights.

Wow! Embellisher of epic proportions!

- He didn't tip the hand because the Bruins knowing that Hossa wasn't playing would have indeed been an advantage. Them not knowing that was indeed an advantage for the Hawks. There is zero surprise now if Hossa doesn't play in Game 4.

- Q also didn't want to tell Smith - as he also explained - as to help the kid with his nerves. Last second element of surprise.
- CaptainBlackhawk

Whatever. The amount of overthinking things going on in that room right now is debilitating. When you are thinking that much about playing head games with a team that gives zero phucks about that sort of thing, well you're spinning your wheels. No wonder the PP can't get going, imagine the paralysis by analysis happening behind closed doors with that unit if this much thought is going into who is taking warm ups.

Seriously, would you rather help Smith with his nerves by letting him get his feet under him and his hands warm by letting him skate the warmup or by telling him while the Zam is out there that he is in the lineup? He could have taken the warmup without the Bruins knowing it meant Hossa would be out. For all Boston would have known Smith could have been out there as an option to draw in in Bollig's spot.

he can't take warmups without knowing? come on now...
- Sconnie

If Ben Smith took warmups:

1) The Bruins would have known that something was up.

2) Smith would have known that he was more than likely playing.

3) Not even sure.. is there any rule on who can/can't skate in warm ups? (I'd imagine there is).

Whatever. The amount of overthinking things going on in that room right now is debilitating. When you are thinking that much about playing head games with a team that gives zero phucks about that sort of thing, well you're spinning your wheels. No wonder the PP can't get going, imagine the paralysis by analysis happening behind closed doors with that unit if this much thought is going into who is taking warm ups.

Seriously, would you rather help Smith with his nerves by letting him get his feet under him and his hands warm by letting him skate the warmup or by telling him while the Zam is out there that he is in the lineup? He could have taken the warmup without the Bruins knowing it meant Hossa would be out. For all Boston would have known Smith could have been out there as an option to draw in in Bollig's spot.
- PhatJoeSki

The margin between these two teams is miniscule - regardless of the outcome last night. That little edge was something what it was.. a small edge. Not overthinking.. that's Q trying to find SOME advantage.

Show some class... My god. The guy is a world class player.
- z1990z

and he pulled himself out of a final game and is able to play the next one.

I'd obviously be rooting for Shawzer to light up The Beak....but The Beak is wiry l'il prrrrrrrrrrrrick. Anything could happen with two welterweights.
- philco28

Oh not to say I wouldn't love the Beak on the Hawks. But Marchand is more an agitator with no real interest in dropping the gloves. Shaw, while reducing his fighting load since coming up, is more than willing to dance. Not that who can beat whose ass is going to mean the difference in the series...I mean, other than Patrick Sharp has there been a better forward for the Hawks than Shaw?

Carcillo is the true secret weapon. Unleash!

and he pulled himself out of a final game and is able to play the next one.
- Fountain-San

I hate to admit it, but this is an interesting reality. I won't read too much in it right now, but THIS question will be asked if Hossa does indeed play tomorrow night. We need all hands on deck against this Boston team...

Follow hockey much? When do they announce an injury during a series?

You really are here just to troll.
- tredbrta

Yeah bud. They released the details about Horton's shoulder a few days ago. You really need to let it go.

If Ben Smith took warmups:

1) The Bruins would have known that something was up.

2) Smith would have known that he was more than likely playing.

3) Not even sure.. is there any rule on who can/can't skate in warm ups? (I'd imagine there is).
- CaptainBlackhawk

#1 - NO .. jamal mayers took warmups.. did they think he was playing??

#2 - NO... again, jamal mayers and whoever was out there. you're also assuming his sac would shrivel to the size of a peanut... what makes you think he wouldn't want to take warmups and get focused?

#3 - Not my knowledge

and he pulled himself out of a final game and is able to play the next one.
- Fountain-San

- He didn't pull himself out of a game

- He had/has a neck injury.. those type of injuries come and go. It's not like he had a torn knee.

- Hossa is one of the biggest competitors in the NHL. For you to infer he was "pulling himself out of a game" is stupidity at its finest.

Wow! Embellisher of epic proportions!

- He didn't tip the hand because the Bruins knowing that Hossa wasn't playing would have indeed been an advantage. Them not knowing that was indeed an advantage for the Hawks. There is zero surprise now if Hossa doesn't play in Game 4.

- Q also didn't want to tell Smith - as he also explained - as to help the kid with his nerves. Last second element of surprise.
- CaptainBlackhawk

So - let's let a guy, who hasn't played in 2 months, who just took his mother to the airport (the story I heard) - let's let him quickly get dressed before the puck-drop in game 3 of the SCFinals - without giving him a chance to warm up or loosen up.

If that's the way it happenned - yeah, really surprised Boston right out of their game.

#1 - NO .. jamal mayers took warmups.. did they think he was playing??

#2 - NO... again, jamal mayers and whoever was out there. you're also assuming his sac would shrivel to the size of a peanut... what makes you think he wouldn't want to take warmups and get focused?

#3 - Not my knowledge
- Sconnie

Then the question is: Has Ben Smith taken warmups in Games 1 and 2