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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think if Bryzgalov is not bought out later this month, I think it means that the Flyers are open to keeping him long term.
- MJL


I think the buyout window is relatively short...

Starting 48 hours after the SCF and ending 2 weeks later. I think.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
Michael Leighton could win the Vezina behind a Tippett-coached team.
- Tomahawk


Not true, to compare Leighton to Smith is absurd. Smith is a workhorse that wins games all on his own. My only concern with him is staying 100% healthy. He is a fierce competitor and sometimes plays a little wreckless as he is physically ready for any Milan Lucic types. Would love to see him in Philly. All those shutouts, well check them out and many were in the 40 save or more category.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
What if they threw in mushmouth?
- section32

Then they'd want Couturier and schenn.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
If I were actually hoping for Flyer success but I'm not, this would be my goalie wishlist for what's out there:

1) Luongo (different contract)
2) Bernier ( up in the air as far as trade cost goes)
3) Miller ( same with this guy)
4) Backstrom
5) Halak
6) Khubodin
7) Emery
8) Svedberg
9) Thomas
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
I think it means he has one more year to prove himself but I will bet he is gone either this year or next year for sure.
Let's face it the guy is bad mouthing Philly in Russia and does not want to play here anymore but he is in the drivers seat. Worst signing ever.

- flyerdude17



It's either a CBO this year, or next. They can't risk going any farther than 2014 w/ that contract on the books w/ the cap recapture penalties.

I believe the decision hinges more on what options they have to replace him via trade/UFA/CBO UFA/OS/etc. If they have something solid lined up this summer, they'll do it now. If things aren't looking so hot, they might delay it until next summer.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
I can't see keeping Bryz under any circumstance. The contract is an albatross. His performance against the dollars is weak. He is a distraction to the team. If we don't use the CBO and he gets injured we are hosed. Just too many reasons not to keep him. Same for Danny. I loved him on the team for a long time and still do from some aspects. But his lack of regular season performance. His age. His defensive liability. And his cap hit just don't outweigh the good. These CBO's are like golden do over tickets to these GMs. Every team gets a chance to get rid of their bad contracts. No way anyone should not take advantage of them.
- section32


Exactly, could not have said it better myself. Distraction to the team is a huge factor!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
Couturier for Russell
- Antilles


I think we'd have to include the obligatory 2nd rounder to land this guy:

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
Halak is an intriguing name to me. Not too expensive and has shown the ability to be a beast in the playoffs.
- Jsaquella


Years & term you'd prefer?
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
What has Thomas been doing this past year?
- wolfhounds


Visiting the White House
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 2:12 PM ET
I can't see keeping Bryz under any circumstance. The contract is an albatross. His performance against the dollars is weak. He is a distraction to the team. If we don't use the CBO and he gets injured we are hosed. Just too many reasons not to keep him. Same for Danny. I loved him on the team for a long time and still do from some aspects. But his lack of regular season performance. His age. His defensive liability. And his cap hit just don't outweigh the good. These CBO's are like golden do over tickets to these GMs. Every team gets a chance to get rid of their bad contracts. No way anyone should not take advantage of them.
- section32

There are a lot of teams who won't use them. Who is Boston buying out?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
Visiting the White House
- Buzzo


Ha! I see what you did there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
Visiting the White House
- Buzzo


whitehouse.com?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 2:14 PM ET
Years & term you'd prefer?
- ob18

He's still signed for a year. You'd have to trade for him and hope to resign him. I'm not big on Halak or his next contract terms.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:15 PM ET
He's still signed for a year. You'd have to trade for him and hope to resign him. I'm not big on Halak or his next contract terms.
- mayorofangrytown


I know sir.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jun 17 @ 2:16 PM ET
I think we'd have to include the obligatory 2nd rounder to land this guy:


- jmatchett383


Meh. Noel Fielding would perform nearly as well, and he'd probably only cost us a 4th.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
First I have heard this. link?
- MBFlyerfan


I am sorry but I did read it somewhere. Apparently he is telling russian newspapers that Philly fans are the worst fans ever. I have been looking for it but can not find it. I assure you it was in the news whether it is true or not. If I find it I will send you a link to it.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:19 PM ET
I am sorry but I did read it somewhere. Apparently he is telling russian newspapers that Philly fans are the worst fans ever. I have been looking for it but can not find it. I assure you it was in the news whether it is true or not. If I find it I will send you a link to it.
- flyerdude17

Guilty until proven innocent
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:21 PM ET
There are a lot of teams who won't use them. Who is Boston buying out?
- mayorofangrytown

No way anyone shouldn't take advantage of them... If they have a "bad contract".
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 2:21 PM ET
I know sir.
- ob18

But you didn't know my opinion which was the important thing.

TS_Downes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Laurel Springs, NJ
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 17 @ 2:22 PM ET
I think the buyout window is relatively short...

Starting 48 hours after the SCF and ending 2 weeks later. I think.

- wolfhounds


In other words, "...later this month" as he said.

Per capgeek "In 2013, the buyout period begins 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Final ends and concludes on July 4 at 5 p.m." (http://www.capgeek.com/new-cba/)
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 17 @ 2:23 PM ET
Luongo will get about the same cap hit on his new contract as the one he will be bought out from. Everyone ok with that?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:23 PM ET
I can't see keeping Bryz under any circumstance. The contract is an albatross. His performance against the dollars is weak. He is a distraction to the team. If we don't use the CBO and he gets injured we are hosed. Just too many reasons not to keep him. Same for Danny. I loved him on the team for a long time and still do from some aspects. But his lack of regular season performance. His age. His defensive liability. And his cap hit just don't outweigh the good. These CBO's are like golden do over tickets to these GMs. Every team gets a chance to get rid of their bad contracts. No way anyone should not take advantage of them.
- section32


Buyout bryz now and this time next year the former vezina finalist finally wins his vezina trophy.... Then queue up us flyers fans complaining about trading away bryz too soon. I can see it happening.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 2:23 PM ET
But you didn't know my opinion which was the important thing.


- mayorofangrytown



You are correct.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 2:24 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Emery and Other Goalie Options
- bmeltzer


Ray Emery for me is my number one choice. He'll come at a decent price, He's still at a decent age and I'm not in favour of handing Steve Mason the number one job. In my opinion he still has to earn it. Should Steve Mason not be able to handle the pressure that comes with playing in Philadelphia, Ray Emery has already been here and knows what to expect. I'm not convinced that Ray Emery can't still be a number 1 goaltender in the NHL.

As for Tim Thomas, it's impossible to tell if he's washed up. His Cup Win, Conn Smyth Win and Vezina Trophy's are still pretty recent. He's slightly up there in age but he might make a pretty good mentor. Aside from age, he's one year removed from the NHL. His reasoning for time off at this stage of his career is a little strange to me.

What both these 2 players have in common is they both fight for their crease. They both have bite. They both remind me of Hextall in this sense. I want my goalie to be as mentally strong as he can be physically.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 17 @ 2:24 PM ET
Buyout bryz now and this time next year the former vezina finalist finally wins his vezina trophy.... Then queue up us flyers fans complaining about trading away bryz too soon. I can see it happening.
- moylander


He was the best flyer for the first 25 games or so this year
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