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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:16 PM ET
Someone mentioned his impressive press conference. Eakins stated the systems they play will vary due to the opponent. I liked that answer. Sounds like chip Kelly on ice. Not that he's done anything. But the guy seems adaptable and that's what I want in my coach. Not someone that lives and dies playing one type of hockey.
- Just5

he's a new waver. did a great job w/ the marlies
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:16 PM ET
Pretty much every Coach has been fired everywhere he's been. Let's put the Phantoms in context. What was the talent level like on the team? If you're going to assess Murray properly as the Phantoms Coach. It is how did he improve and teach the young players the right way to play. Not by wins and losses.
- MJL


Holmgren's in charge of the Phantoms talent level, so I would say it pretty much blows.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=674295


Nothing finalized as of this

- GirouxForTheShow


Deal is done. Just cant announce it yet.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
ballard is getting bought out most likely according to several sources and my evaluation is based on that.
- isaiah520


You're evaluation is based on that? Still doesn't make a case that he's a better choice. You want him as a cheaper 3rd pair defenseman, fine. But it doesn't help the Flyers replace what they lost in Carle.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
Holmgren's in charge of the Phantoms talent level, so I would say it pretty much blows.
- PLindbergh31


Stop picking on Holmgren.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:18 PM ET
Holmgren's in charge of the Phantoms talent level, so I would say it pretty much blows.
- PLindbergh31


This doesn't address what I asked you. I thought the discussion was on Murray?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:19 PM ET
This doesn't address what I asked you.
- MJL


Why would it? One out of every 75 posts is a relevant point. The rest is complaining and crying.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:20 PM ET
Deal is done. Just cant announce it yet.
- stveshdy


I guess the face flew over your head.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:20 PM ET
This doesn't address what I asked you. I thought the discussion was on Murray?
- MJL


Ok I'm bored. I'll play. You asked what was the talent level like on the Phantoms didn't you? If it was poor, who's fault is that?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:21 PM ET
I guess the face flew over your head.
- GirouxForTheShow


Was out in the sun all day. My mind is shot.

Holmgren is a genius.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:22 PM ET
Deal is done. Just cant announce it yet.
- stveshdy


Until it's signed nothing is done.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:22 PM ET
Deal is done. Just cant announce it yet.
- stveshdy

any predictions about the rest of the off season plan?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
Yes, he has to clear Waivers to be sent down to start the Season with the Phantoms.
- MJL


Geez. More reason to dump Mez.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
Was out in the sun all day. My mind is shot.

Holmgren is a genius.

- stveshdy


I wonder why Rask's playoff numbers are skull (frank)ing the numbers Tim Thomas put up.

I guess Chara is like Barry Bonds, he's getting better with age.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
at the risk of any vitriol, how are you guys feeling/looking at the signing and potential setup for other moves. hate to be a Richard but i really dont feel like rereading the last 15 pages, and i certainly dont want to have to subject myself to the main blog
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
Until it's signed nothing is done.
- ob18

yea, ask matt carle
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
any predictions about the rest of the off season plan?
- isaiah520


They add a few minor pieces. Buyout Bryz and Briere. Make one trade to free up more space for a pick.

Get to camp and realize Mason is the bomb.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:24 PM ET
Until it's signed nothing is done.
- ob18


It's signed. Flyers have to get under the cap before announcing it. Once they buyout Briere which will be soon that contract of Streit will be on the books.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:24 PM ET
just like to point out that you guys should tell me who was the last UFA who was at the top of his class that DIDNT get overpaid?
You'd think people would (frank)ing realize these types of things...
Brad Richards was overpaid. Marian Gaborik was overpaid. Parise and Suter were overpaid, Danny was overpaid, Bryz was overpaid, every god forsaken top player at their UFA class was overpaid!!!

how have people not caught onto this yet??? If you want a top UFA YOU ARE GOING TO OVERPAY.
That simple!

- FLYERSROCK!


So what's your point? Could you elaborate?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:26 PM ET
I wonder why Rask's playoff numbers are skull (frank)ing the numbers Tim Thomas put up.

I guess Chara is like Barry Bonds, he's getting better with age.

- PLindbergh31


Steroids.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:26 PM ET
at the risk of any vitriol, how are you guys feeling/looking at the signing and potential setup for other moves. hate to be a Richard but i really dont feel like rereading the last 15 pages, and i certainly dont want to have to subject myself to the main blog
- stayinthefnnet


Briere is a goner, and depending on who one believes(Eklund, Ren Lavoie & Panaccio or Dreger & McKenzie) so is Bryzgalov. Panaccio claims that the Flyers will try to trade for a goalie before using a buy out on Bryzgalov, but if they can't he will be staying and another trade will be made to clear room.

Even if they use both CBOs, they will still likely trade a defenseman, just out of sheer numbers(they have 8 guys who are not waivers exempt once Streit is officially signed). Outside of that, it's anyone's guess.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
Briere is a goner, and depending on who one believes(Eklund, Ren Lavoie & Panaccio or Dreger & McKenzie) so is Bryzgalov. Panaccio claims that the Flyers will try to trade for a goalie before using a buy out on Bryzgalov, but if they can't he will be staying and another trade will be made to clear room.

Even if they use both CBOs, they will still likely trade a defenseman, just out of sheer numbers(they have 8 guys who are not waivers exempt once Streit is officially signed). Outside of that, it's anyone's guess.

- Jsaquella


I'm pretty confident the G extension will be announced some time in July.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
I'm pretty confident the G extension will be announced some time in July.
- ravishingone


They are working on it, but it will only have a minimal impact on this summer's moves.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:31 PM ET
I'm pretty confident the G extension will be announced some time in July.
- ravishingone


Holmgren will get that deal done. He knows what he has to do.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:36 PM ET
They are working on it, but it will only have a minimal impact on this summer's moves.
- Jsaquella



Probably, but with G getting paid superstar money and the uncertainity if and how much the cap will go up next summer, I gotta believe making a run at an expensive forward is pretty much out of the question. Unless, Hartnell or Simmonds is being moved out and the replacement gets slotted in. Of course, personally I don't see anyone as a free agent that much better of an option, which will be more expensive.
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