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NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:33 PM ET
Bryzgalov is gone, they will trade for another goalie or dip into the UFA pool to shore it up.

I could see Meszaros being shopped for a pick, and depending what else is out there, they could try to add another top 9 winger.

- Jsaquella

Honestly, with those moves do you think they will be playoff-ready next year? Personally, I'm not sure.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Plus the Bonus cushion. Don't have to be at or under the Upper Limit. Just have to be Cap compliant.
- MJL


Wait, you mean they don't get any reward for having the most cap space?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
He wanted 4 years, near $5mm with the Isles. Let's face it, he wasn't taking much less to come to terms here.
- Jsaquella

The deal doesn't surprise me. It's actually less than my feared price and yrs. I thought he'd try to get to 40 on the contract.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
not much out there sir

we're you hoping they tried the offer sheet route again?

- Crimsoninja



Like jumping too far ahead of the goalie market with Bryz, I'm kind of afraid that they might have just done the same again.

10% upper-limit reduction with a good number of teams needing to juggle payroll... CBO's, salary-dumps... who knows what names would have been available come July 1-5?

I'd take a freshly CBO'd/salary-shared Liles over Streit any day of the week.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Honestly, with those moves do you think they will be playoff-ready next year? Personally, I'm not sure.
- NYI44


I'm sure. They should've been in the playoffs this past Season.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:35 PM ET
Like jumping too far ahead of the goalie market with Bryz, I'm kind of afraid that they might have just done the same again.

10% upper-limit reduction with a good number of teams needing to juggle payroll... CBO's, salary-dumps... who knows what names would have been available come July 1-5?

I'd take a freshly CBO'd/salary-shared Liles over Streit any day of the week.


- Tomahawk

no one is every happy in flyer land
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:35 PM ET
Good news for the devils in that they can go back to dumping pucks in the corner to force the backhand on our LH dmen lineup!

That was soooooo 2012
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:35 PM ET
Honestly, with those moves do you think they will be playoff-ready next year? Personally, I'm not sure.
- NYI44

We've missed the playoffs once in the past 18 years.
worry about your own team please, we'll be fine

EDIT: Twice now i think.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:36 PM ET
Like jumping too far ahead of the goalie market with Bryz, I'm kind of afraid that they might have just done the same again.

10% upper-limit reduction with a good number of teams needing to juggle payroll... CBO's, salary-dumps... who knows what names would have been available come July 1-5?

I'd take a freshly CBO'd/salary-shared Liles over Streit any day of the week.


- Tomahawk

pretty sure that Ballard will be available, likely for a lot less then 4yrs/22M
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:36 PM ET
no one is every happy in flyer land
- 2Real



I'm in Islanders land now, I don't have to be happy for the Flyers anymore. Pure trolling.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:36 PM ET
I'm sure. They should've been in the playoffs this past Season.
- MJL

I didn't mean I didn't think they're gonna make the playoffs. Just asking you guys' opinion. If they don't buyout Bryz, I'll be shocked.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:36 PM ET
Like jumping too far ahead of the goalie market with Leighton and Bryz, I'm kind of afraid that they might have just done the same again.

10% upper-limit reduction with a good number of teams needing to juggle payroll... CBO's, salary-dumps... who knows what names would have been available come July 1-5?

I'd take a freshly CBO'd/salary-shared Liles over Streit any day of the week.


- Tomahawk


No thanks to Liles. Never liked him. Frequent scratch. Wouldn't waste a dime on him. And it's not jumping ahead if you get the player you want.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:37 PM ET
Honestly, with those moves do you think they will be playoff-ready next year? Personally, I'm not sure.
- NYI44


I do. They should have been a playoff team last year. Poor coaching, combined with injuries and several guys underachieving led to them falling short last season and adding Streit will certainly help in the area of their biggest weakness last year...the transition game.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:37 PM ET
We've missed the playoffs once in the past 18 years.
worry about your own team please, we'll be fine

EDIT: Twice now i think.

- FLYERSROCK!

Yes it was two. Relax, just asking a question. I'm not trolling at all
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:38 PM ET
I didn't mean I didn't think they're gonna make the playoffs. Just asking you guys' opinion. If they don't buyout Bryz, I'll be shocked.
- NYI44

if we buyout bryz we're not making the playoffs for sure
can't gamble the season on mason... unless we bring in nabokov of the early 2000's oh wait that's bob
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:38 PM ET
Honestly, with those moves do you think they will be playoff-ready next year? Personally, I'm not sure.
- NYI44


I think Bryzgalov is a better goaltender then Mason but youth is on the side of Mason. I don't feel Streit makes our D any stronger then it was before defensively. I just expect more offense from the blue line. In fact if Streit's cap hit looks anything between 5.5 million to 6 million. I feel it's interesting that the Flyers went from signing a poor defensively 6 million dollar center, to a poor defensively 6 million dollar defenseman.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:38 PM ET
I do. They should have been a playoff team last year. Poor coaching, combined with injuries and several guys underachieving led to them falling short last season and adding Streit will certainly help in the area of their biggest weakness last year...the transition game.
- Jsaquella

i thought our biggest weakness was goalie
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:38 PM ET
Honestly, with those moves do you think they will be playoff-ready next year? Personally, I'm not sure.
- NYI44


If Islanders made the playoffs Im sure the Flyers can. Islanders have some nice pieces Tavares and some other guys but not a better team than Flyers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:39 PM ET
Like jumping too far ahead of the goalie market with Bryz, I'm kind of afraid that they might have just done the same again.

10% upper-limit reduction with a good number of teams needing to juggle payroll... CBO's, salary-dumps... who knows what names would have been available come July 1-5?

I'd take a freshly CBO'd/salary-shared Liles over Streit any day of the week.


- Tomahawk


The Gonchar trade and contract set the market, unfortunately. They're reacting, yet again.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:40 PM ET
And it's not jumping ahead if you get the player you want.
- MJL



It is if you jump ahead to get a player you want, only to find out later that you don't really want him after all... while you watch more patient franchises pick up guys like Vokoun for pennies on the dollar.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
It is if you jump ahead to get a player you want, only to find out later that you don't really want him after all... while you watch more patient franchises pick up guys like Vokoun for pennies on the dollar.
- Tomahawk

not to mention losing vezina winning goalies
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
So the choice was between signing a guy to a sunset contract or be forced to trade one of the kids?

Apparently, there's only two ways to skin a cat.

- Tomahawk


Well, you could always try to stuff Weber in a bag,smuggle him out os Nashville and throw a Flyers jersey over him, but i'm not sure it would work.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
kimmo-schenn
streit-coburn
grossman-gus

- Crimsoninja

so mez is gone?

it doesn't seem that long ago when he won the award for best defenseman on the team
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
If Islanders made the playoffs Im sure the Flyers can. Islanders have some nice pieces Tavares and some other guys but not a better team than Flyers.
- flyerfan28

That's not necessarily true. Isles made the playoffs in a year they weren't expected to, when some players of the "future" team are not in the NHL.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:42 PM ET
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 40s

Told Streit deal with Flyers is 4 years, $5.25 mil per.
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