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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:04 PM ET
I assume Letang is wearing the skirt for that routine, what with the hair.
- BulliesPhan87



Why does anyone have to wear a skirt? Martin Short smashed that barrier almost 30 years ago.




cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Not sure if trading Letang would be a mistake...it would depend on the return. I'd definitely trade him out west, nowhere near the eastern conference. I'm sure the return value would be huge if an extension is in place...possible deals (I am trying to estimate inflation due to bidding war as well):

ANA: Ryan + G prospect + 1st <-> Letang + Kunitz + Kennedy

VAN: Edler + Kassian + 1st + <-> Letang + Kennedy

WPG: Kane + Bogosian <-> Letang + Kunitz + Kennedy

STL: Shattenkirk + 1st + Prospect/or grinder <-> Letang

CLB: J. Johnson + Foligno + 1st (14th) <-> Letang + Kennedy
* JJ and Crosby connection

COL: 1st overall <-> Letang + Kennedy
* PITT then has some fun dealing this pick!

Just random thoughts...may have over-estimated Letang value, but I don't think so (I'm assuming he's got an 6-8 year contract in place + bidding way).

- mventres


The deal that makes the most sense is with Edmonton:

Letang for the 7th overall pick, either Smid or Petry, and a higher end forward prospect not named Magnus
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
Why does anyone have to wear a skirt? Martin Short smashed that barrier almost 30 years ago.





- canadianpenfan



"I'm not that strong of a swimmer..."
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:11 PM ET
The deal that makes the most sense is with Edmonton:

Letang for the 7th overall pick, either Smid or Petry, and a higher end forward prospect not named Magnus

- cap1681

Petry?Really? Is he better than Fistric? The only guy I'd want from that blue line would be Smid.

From the East, i'd probably deal Letang to the Islander (for the right deal, like M.Martin/Okposo).
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
"I'm not that strong of a swimmer..."
- rival22



Still one of the best skits of all time.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
ANA: Ryan + G prospect + 1st <-> Letang + Kunitz + Kennedy
VAN: Edler + Kassian + 1st + <-> Letang + Kennedy
WPG: Kane + Bogosian <-> Letang + Kunitz + Kennedy
STL: Shattenkirk + 1st + Prospect/or grinder <-> Letang
CLB: J. Johnson + Foligno + 1st (14th) <-> Letang + Kennedy
* JJ and Crosby connection
COL: 1st overall <-> Letang + Kennedy
* PITT then has some fun dealing this pick!

Just random thoughts...may have over-estimated Letang value, but I don't think so (I'm assuming he's got an 6-8 year contract in place + bidding way).

- mventres

ONLY if we have to, then:

St. L : Letang
Pitts: Shattenkirk, Stewart

or

St. L: Letang
Pitts: Pietrangelo, Rattie

Add in either TK or whomever from our side if necessary or another prospect from their side, but you get the idea(s).
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Still one of the best skits of all time.
- canadianpenfan


Absolutely... Easily a top 10 SNL skit ever.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
Petry?Really? Is he better than Fistric? The only guy I'd want from that blue line would be Smid.

From the East, i'd probably deal Letang to the Islander (for the right deal, like M.Martin/Okposo).

- Orpik44


I don't see Shero trading him to a rival. Plus, i don't think a deal gets done without a NHL ready defenseman coming back. If I'm Shero and the Isles call, I would say the deal starts with Hamonic, and goes from there. Most likely though, Letang will be playing in the Western Conference if he gets traded.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
No way if Letang is traded, does he stay in the east.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:19 PM ET

- mventres

ONLY if we have to, then:

St. L : Letang
Pitts: Shattenkirk, Stewart

or

St. L: Letang
Pitts: Pietrangelo, Rattie

Add in either TK or whomever from our side if necessary or another prospect from their side, but you get the idea(s).

- errey12


Both those deals are hard because Shattenkirk, Stewart, and Pietrangelo are all RFAs
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
No way if Letang is traded, does he stay in the east.
- errey12


Unless Shero gets blown away by a team in the east.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
I don't see Shero trading him to a rival. Plus, i don't think a deal gets done without a NHL ready defenseman coming back. If I'm Shero and the Isles call, I would say the deal starts with Hamonic, and goes from there. Most likely though, Letang will be playing in the Western Conference if he gets traded.
- cap1681

A canadian team: Edmonton or Vancouver.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Both those deals are hard because Shattenkirk, Stewart, and Pietrangelo are all RFAs
- cap1681


Shattenkirk makes 1.3M and Pietrangelo makes 3.167 (so look for him to go to at least 5.5). Obviously it all depends on Letang guaranteeing resigning there and St. L. obliging us. No biggie!
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Unless Shero gets blown away by a team in the east.
- cap1681

I'd be blown away with M.Martin/Okposo or M.Martin/Hamonic.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:25 PM ET
Both those deals are hard because Shattenkirk, Stewart, and Pietrangelo are all RFAs
- cap1681


Besides the fact that neither of those deals make much sense for St Louis.

Why trade Pietrangelo for Letang when he is going to be a similar caliber player, and cheaper? And then to throw in a quality prospect who they would control at a low cap hit for at least a few years...

Shattenkirk might not be on that level, but you'd basically give up a quality second pairing defesnseman and a power forward for a 1st pairing guy that you don't need.

Think about these proposed deals from both sides....
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
I'd be blown away with M.Martin/Okposo or M.Martin/Hamonic.
- Orpik44


ehh, that's not enough to give him to a team that the Pens will see 6 times a year.

Another team i think would be interesting is Dallas. If we could pry away Erikkson and maybe their young d-man Dillon, i would be happy. Dillon is going to be a stud stay at home defenseman.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Besides the fact that neither of those deals make much sense for St Louis.

Why trade Pietrangelo for Letang when he is going to be a similar caliber player, and cheaper? And then to throw in a quality prospect who they would control at a low cap hit for at least a few years...

Shattenkirk might not be on that level, but you'd basically give up a quality second pairing defesnseman and a power forward for a 1st pairing guy that you don't need.

Think about these proposed deals from both sides....

- rival22

It's a nice line of thought but you have to think St.Louis' lineup is not cutting it in the playoffs. A small change (yet big) would benefit them. They had a lot of trouble scoring in the playoffs. I guess Letang could help on the PP and 5 on 5.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
I'd be blown away with M.Martin/Okposo or M.Martin/Hamonic.
- Orpik44


Hamonic would be nice, but Okposo and Martin? You'd take an underachieving 20 goal scorer and Matt Cooke-light for Letang?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:28 PM ET

- mventres

ONLY if we have to, then:

St. L : Letang
Pitts: Shattenkirk, Stewart

or

St. L: Letang
Pitts: Pietrangelo, Rattie

Add in either TK or whomever from our side if necessary or another prospect from their side, but you get the idea(s).

- errey12



So trade Letang because we can't afford him and get Pietrangelo who will be looking for the same money?

Not to mention, there is no way they even consider adding Rattie to that. St.Louis has no desire or need for Letang.

If Letang is traded it will be for several inexpensive pieces (shutdown D men at the top of this list), not another high priced player.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:28 PM ET
ehh, that's not enough to give him to a team that the Pens will see 6 times a year.

Another team i think would be interesting is Dallas. If we could pry away Erikkson and maybe their young d-man Dillon, i would be happy. Dillon is going to be a stud stay at home defenseman.

- cap1681

Now you're talking! Eriksson he would be amazing in Pittsburgh (and his great cap hit of $4M). You can't have him AND Dillon. They would be giving up too much.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
ehh, that's not enough to give him to a team that the Pens will see 6 times a year.

Another team i think would be interesting is Dallas. If we could pry away Erikkson and maybe their young d-man Dillon, i would be happy. Dillon is going to be a stud stay at home defenseman.

- cap1681


Who would be our puck-moving D then?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
ehh, that's not enough to give him to a team that the Pens will see 6 times a year.

Another team i think would be interesting is Dallas. If we could pry away Erikkson and maybe their young d-man Dillon, i would be happy. Dillon is going to be a stud stay at home defenseman.

- cap1681



Or maybe Goligoski. Our blogger would be in heaven.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
Hamonic would be nice, but Okposo and Martin? You'd take an underachieving 20 goal scorer and Matt Cooke-light for Letang?
- rival22

If you look at their cap hits you'll know why I handpicked them. M.Martin would be very nice for our 4th line for years to come. Basically a replacement to Adams. Hamonic is a very good shut down defenseman. Okposo...I see him as a Fedotenko type. He could work well on our top 2 lines. Give him to either, Sid or Geno.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
If you look at their cap hits you'll know why I handpicked them. M.Martin would be very nice for our 4th line for years to come. Basically a replacement to Adams. Hamonic is a very good shut down defenseman. Okposo...I see him as a Fedotenko type. He could work well on our top 2 lines. Give him to either, Sid or Geno.
- Orpik44



They're terrible deals for Pittsburgh, whether you hand picked them or not. Back to the drawing board.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
Who would be our puck-moving D then?
- errey12



Martin is a pretty good puck moving D-man. I said this in a earlier blog......I don't think the Pens need that high level, offensive minded d-man with all the firepower they have up front. They need a more balanced, defense-minded group of guys who have trace amounts of offensive ability. I also think Dumolin will get a shot with the big club next season, and he is cut from the same cloth as Martin. Plus, let's not forget about Despres.
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