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nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
Do you honestly think Vancouver would entertain the notion for that? Nope. That seems to be too much for Letang.
- Oneonta Penguin

Maybe it is straight up, but a deal could easily be worked off of those pieces even if Pens have to add a little something, was just showing the Canucks do have the goods
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 17 @ 7:08 PM ET
But the defenders they paid all that money too can't play defense.......
- Genev21

I agree, but Lu will backstop them on most games.... he can easily play 60 and Flyers are back in the playoffs.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 7:12 PM ET
Lu has gotten closer than the majority if not all the free agent goalies and is easily a notch above most in accomplisments.... typical eastern bias shows very little about him. Last I checked the Flyers can score... they're already ahead of the 2011 Canucks
- nelson911


The Canucks were the highest scoring team in the NHL that season.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 7:13 PM ET
I agree, but Lu will backstop them on most games.... he can easily play 60 and Flyers are back in the playoffs.
- nelson911


I'm sorry, but the Flyers putting faith in a 34 y/o goalie with issues is not going to get them back in the playoffs.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 17 @ 7:14 PM ET
The Canucks were the highest scoring team in the NHL that season.
- cap1681

Yep... against the Bruins in the playoffs they fell flat... just like the Penguins... I'm just showing it wasn't goaltending that sank the Canucks.... may have been an issue in a game or two... too many people just say Luongo was the reason for them losing and he can't win big games.... IT TAKES A WHOLE FRICKIN TEAM TO WIN
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 7:25 PM ET
Yep... against the Bruins in the playoffs they fell flat... just like the Penguins... I'm just showing it wasn't goaltending that sank the Canucks.... may have been an issue in a game or two... too many people just say Luongo was the reason for them losing and he can't win big games.... IT TAKES A WHOLE FRICKIN TEAM TO WIN
- nelson911


Then how can you say that adding a mediocre goalie to a non playoff teams will make them a threat in the playoffs? Luongo isn't the elite goalie he used to be, and isn't getting any better with age.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 17 @ 7:30 PM ET
Then how can you say that adding a mediocre goalie to a non playoff teams will make them a threat in the playoffs? Luongo isn't the elite goalie he used to be, and isn't getting any better with age.
- cap1681

I'm saying Luongo can bridge the gap to making them a playoff team... I don't how much of a threat they will be with their defense. I say he does better than Bryz, yea I know hard to do eh... And Lu can easily pull off 4 seasons of being number one.


You're full of it... Mediocre goalie...Lu without his contract is easily the top free agent probably has 10 teams bidding for him... Cause they actually see value in him whereas people just look at highlights and BS fluff Gillis has created.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 17 @ 7:30 PM ET
Then how can you say that adding a mediocre goalie to a non playoff teams will make them a threat in the playoffs? Luongo isn't the elite goalie he used to be, and isn't getting any better with age.
- cap1681

Lu is not a mediocre goalie he is a very good goalie who falls flat during the playoffs. I think he is far from the answer in Philly because they have way to many issues right now but he can be the answer somewhere else. He needs to go o a team where the media will stop killing him all the time so he can just play, not Philly.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 17 @ 7:42 PM ET
Lu is not a mediocre goalie he is a very good goalie who falls flat during the playoffs. I think he is far from the answer in Philly because they have way to many issues right now but he can be the answer somewhere else. He needs to go o a team where the media will stop killing him all the time so he can just play, not Philly.
- Genev21

I'd say through the first 3 years he had to adjust to the media but the last couple he is more than capable of handling it. Gillis is a giant clown shoes and has f'd up his situation beyond belief.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Jun 17 @ 7:45 PM ET
Now you're talking! Eriksson he would be amazing in Pittsburgh (and his great cap hit of $4M). You can't have him AND Dillon. They would be giving up too much.
- Orpik44


I'd be interested in that deal...I think PITT would want to get a pick back though, maybe 2nd rounder.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 17 @ 8:23 PM ET
If they land Luongo after a possible buyout I think that puts them right back into the fold.
- nelson911


Into the fold of what exactly?
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 17 @ 8:25 PM ET
Lu is not a mediocre goalie he is a very good goalie who falls flat during the playoffs. I think he is far from the answer in Philly because they have way to many issues right now but he can be the answer somewhere else. He needs to go o a team where the media will stop killing him all the time so he can just play, not Philly.
- Genev21



Lu folds in pressure situations. Exactly. Maybe the Islanders would be perfect, or Florida. He can't survive in big market. He is a very fragile goalie.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 17 @ 8:37 PM ET
The Flyers now have 11.25 Mil in cap space tied up by 2 defensemen with a combined age of 73.
- cap1681

If Letang gets 7 mil we will have 2 defenseman with a combined capt hi of 12 mil and an age of 58...
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
Lu folds in pressure situations. Exactly. Maybe the Islanders would be perfect, or Florida. He can't survive in big market. He is a very fragile goalie.
- Oneonta Penguin

I think he would be fine on a cup contending team that just doesn't get league wide attention. If you put him on the ducks that's a finals team. I think Florida would be good for him too. They have young pieces and made the playoffs last year and I truly believe the only reason they were so awful thinyearvwas the ridiculous amount of injuries they had. I think they will have a boune back year next year and Lu would only help them.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 17 @ 8:57 PM ET
I think he would be fine on a cup contending team that just doesn't get league wide attention. If you put him on the ducks that's a finals team. I think Florida would be good for him too. They have young pieces and made the playoffs last year and I truly believe the only reason they were so awful thinyearvwas the ridiculous amount of injuries they had. I think they will have a boune back year next year and Lu would only help them.
- Genev21


Fact is this, lets forget who is in goal for the respective teams, but he wouldn't survive as the starting goalie for Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Montreal, Rags, Philly, Pittsburgh, and Toronto for starters.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:03 PM ET
If Letang gets 7 mil we will have 2 defenseman with a combined capt hi of 12 mil and an age of 58...
- drummer829


Seeing the contracts being thrown around for defensemen, 5 mil for Martin is becoming a lot better of a deal.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:04 PM ET
I'd be interested in that deal...I think PITT would want to get a pick back though, maybe 2nd rounder.
- mventres

If we could get Eriksson alone, I'd consider the deal succesfull. Eriksson is a very very good player. I doubt we could get anyone better than him...but I also doubt Letang signs there long term.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:08 PM ET
Lu is not a mediocre goalie he is a very good goalie who falls flat during the playoffs. I think he is far from the answer in Philly because they have way to many issues right now but he can be the answer somewhere else. He needs to go o a team where the media will stop killing him all the time so he can just play, not Philly.
- Genev21


He WAS a very good goalie. He has been on the decline since he lost in the finals. 0-7 in the playoffs with about a 3.00 GAA. His numbers have also declined each of the past 2 seasons. He is trending downward, and going to a team with a suspect defense and a city who is more critical on their goalies then anybody in the NHL is not going to help him or the Flyers.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
Fact is this, lets forget who is in goal for the respective teams, but he wouldn't survive as the starting goalie for Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Montreal, Rags, Philly, Pittsburgh, and Toronto for starters.
- Oneonta Penguin

I agree with all te teams you mentioned except LA even though they won the cup last year and they have a lot of new "fans" I don't think he would get the same harsh treatment. It's a moot point however because quick isn't going anywhere. And Pittsburgh is debatable I mean if fleury could do it Lu can. Fleury hasn't done it recently as we all know but he won a cup here when many people critiziced him for letting in soft ones a habit he still hasn't broken
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:10 PM ET
Seeing the contracts being thrown around for defensemen, 5 mil for Martin is becoming a lot better of a deal.
- cap1681

No doubt. It was hard to hear some clowns from other teams saying Martin was garbage. All year. And I best most of them still don't recognize him. #suckit
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:11 PM ET
If we could get Eriksson alone, I'd consider the deal succesfull. Eriksson is a very very good player. I doubt we could get anyone better than him...but I also doubt Letang signs there long term.
- Orpik44


There's the problem with getting full value for Letang. It's got to be a place that he'll sign long term. Most likely the Pens will have to allow another team to talk to Letang before any deal takes place. He's going to shoot down lots of teams.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:13 PM ET
No doubt. It was hard to hear some clowns from other teams saying Martin was garbage. All year. And I best most of them still don't recognize him. #suckit
- Orpik44

They were probably still going of his previous season when he was terrible credit to him for turning it around
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:22 PM ET
If we could get Eriksson alone, I'd consider the deal succesfull. Eriksson is a very very good player. I doubt we could get anyone better than him...but I also doubt Letang signs there long term.
- Orpik44


Letang doesn't fit the profile of a Dallas player. You must be over 35 to play there. I wouldn't be surprised to see Iggy land there.

So, you get Eriksson and that means someone like Neal or Kunitz is gone. You need a Dman back if you trade Letang.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
I agree with all te teams you mentioned except LA even though they won the cup last year and they have a lot of new "fans" I don't think he would get the same harsh treatment. It's a moot point however because quick isn't going anywhere. And Pittsburgh is debatable I mean if fleury could do it Lu can. Fleury hasn't done it recently as we all know but he won a cup here when many people critiziced him for letting in soft ones a habit he still hasn't broken
- Genev21


Luongo is fragile. He would be eaten alive in Pittsburgh. Fleury is less fragile than Luongo.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:26 PM ET
Luongo is fragile. He would be eaten alive in Pittsburgh. Fleury is less fragile than Luongo.
- Oneonta Penguin

That's very debatable you have watched fleury the past 3 playoffs and watched his interviews during these playoffs correct?
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