Stay clear, I would keep Bozak over this injury riddled Weiss. Trust me I have had him for years and he kills me with down time and I really believe after last year he is going downhill fast. Would rather gambleon Derek Roy.

I would love it for him to come in and surprise, I just don't want him to come in at $5m a year and disappoint...
- lumlums

4.5 is what i'd be happy at, anything more is an overpayment

Sometimes he looks like a star and sometimes he's completely invisible. I think hes consistently inconsistent but he does have the ability to be a very effective player when he's pushed to produce by playing with better players(Kessel,JVR). He could live up to his potential when he leaves Florida like Horton and Jovo did.
- coolehmon41

I'd rather the Leafs not waste their time hoping for the unknown if they can pick up a better option...

I would love it for him to come in and surprise, I just don't want him to come in at $5m a year and disappoint...
- lumlums

This and only this

Weiss
08-09 ppg: 0.78 avg ice: 17.48
09-10 ppg: 0.75 avg ice: 19:59
10-11 ppg: 0.64 avg ice: 20:05
11-12 ppg: 0.71 avg ice: 20:30

so with more ice time his point totals decrease, still pretty solid, but i see filppula of having the better chance at increasing his point totals over weiss

I'd rather the Leafs not waste their time hoping for the unknown if they can pick up a better option...
- Flyfreaky

Filppula isn't the unknown?

Weiss
08-09 ppg: 0.78 avg ice: 17.48
09-10 ppg: 0.75 avg ice: 19:59
10-11 ppg: 0.64 avg ice: 20:05
11-12 ppg: 0.71 avg ice: 20:30

so with more ice time his point totals decrease, still pretty solid, but i see filppula of having the better chance at increasing his point totals over weiss
- matt1337

Not hard to do when you're a 30pt player.

I'd rather the Leafs not waste their time hoping for the unknown if they can pick up a better option...
- Flyfreaky

Better options cost more then just money, this is a free roll. You have a back up plan(compliance buyouts) for one more off season. Its pretty low risk.

Filppula isn't the unknown?
- ThePresident

Of course he is, and if either Filpulla or Weiss want $5m or more, then give bozie one more year at 4m and be done with it.

As much as I want to see an upgrade at 1C over Bozak, we were 5th in league scoring last year, so that isn't the major issue that needs addressing. A minute-eating defenceman who can play his own end is much more of a priority imho

Better options cost more then just money, this is a free roll. You have a back up plan(compliance buyouts) for one more off season. Its pretty low risk.
- coolehmon41

I'd rather the dude from Detroit...

Not hard to do when you're a 30pt player.
- ThePresident

you realize his 30 pts seasons is when he didnt play full seasons, 1 pts off of 40 pts and he missed 11 games, 5 pts off 40 pts and he missed 27 games dont focus on just the point totals, thats why i put ppg cause it shows better

Filppula isn't the unknown?
- ThePresident

I would take Filppula over Weiss anyday, he played with an undisclosed injury all year and hopefully that will be cleared up for next year and he will return to the 60 point level.

Of course he is, and if either Filpulla or Weiss want $5m or more, then give bozie one more year at 4m and be done with it.

As much as I want to see an upgrade at 1C over Bozak, we were 5th in league scoring last year, so that isn't the major issue that needs addressing. A minute-eating defenceman who can play his own end is much more of a priority imho
- lumlums

i doubt filppula would want 5 mil, at most he would want 4.5 but i think he will sign for 4 mil

i doubt filppula would want 5 mil, at most he would want 4.5 but i think he will sign for 4 mil
- matt1337

If that's the case, then done and done.

If that's the case, then done and done.
- lumlums

he didnt have the best year, so i doubt he can command a huge pay day

he didnt have the best year, so i doubt he can command a huge pay day
- matt1337

Give him a connolly-esque contract, 2 years/$9m, and make him earn the chance to get to $5m plus afterwards. If it fails, then no major long-term hurt

Give him a connolly-esque contract, 2 years/$9m, and make him earn the chance to get to $5m plus afterwards. If it fails, then no major long-term hurt
- lumlums

he will probably be looking for something longer

he will probably be looking for something longer
- matt1337

Then pass. I say a firm Lei-NO to anything more than 3 years MAX.

you realize his 30 pts seasons is when he didnt play full seasons, 1 pts off of 40 pts and he missed 11 games, 5 pts off 40 pts and he missed 27 games dont focus on just the point totals, thats why i put ppg cause it shows better
- matt1337

So he's extremely injury prone?

Then pass. I say a firm Lei-NO to anything more than 3 years MAX.
- lumlums

i wouldnt mind a 3 year deal for him

So he's extremely injury prone?
- ThePresident

no thats 2 seasons? longest time off was 26 games for a broken wrist, nothing really major

Of course he is, and if either Filpulla or Weiss want $5m or more, then give bozie one more year at 4m and be done with it.

As much as I want to see an upgrade at 1C over Bozak, we were 5th in league scoring last year, so that isn't the major issue that needs addressing. A minute-eating defenceman who can play his own end is much more of a priority imho
- lumlums

Agreed. It's kill us if we "upgrade" the #1 C position with a lateral move and ignore other issues.

Guys...

I have been Stephen Weiss this whole time.

Guys...

I have been Stephen Weiss this whole time.
- Tee-Dot

And the Sigh Young award for "best female doger" goes to.....

Guys...

I have been Stephen Weiss this whole time.
- Tee-Dot

Indeed...