A different system, players are completely different outside of it, same goes for players that come from NJ and join a new team. Just curious, how many of Flipulla's points were scored playing with Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Franzen during his 66pt campaign? How many of that was on the powerplay?
- ThePresident

And coming to play with kessel (6th ins scoring, only 3 players scored more last 2 years) is a downgrade?? I think you're missing something here.

I didn't see that list.....


But yeah, that's pretty funny.
- burn

Have to wonder how much the local media affects the voting process.

Have to wonder how much the local media affects the voting process.
- AdamFrench

Mcgran says the kadri vote didn't come from TO....

Nor did Ovie and he won the Hart
- lumlums

Catty!

Mcgran says the kadri vote didn't come from TO....
- burn

Not surprising, can you see any of the TO media actually voting for a Leaf?

And coming to play with kessel (6th ins scoring, only 3 players scored more last 2 years) is a downgrade?? I think you're missing something here.
- burn

In other words, Detroit brings the best out of its players, once they are moved somewhere else, they don't seem to replicate the success they had with Detroit. You can't say that about much other teams, besides New Jersey as well. Filpulla has Nikolai Kulemin written all over him, one great season, then back to 30pt seasons. We sign him, by the end of the year he'll be on the 3rd line with Kulemin.

Not surprising, can you see any of the TO media actually voting for a Leaf?
- AdamFrench

No!!

In other words, Detroit brings the best out of its players, once they are moved somewhere else, they don't seem to replicate the success they had with Detroit. You can't say that about much other teams, besides New Jersey as well. Filpulla has Nikolai Kulemin written all over him, one great season, then back to 30pt seasons. We sign him, by the end of the year he'll be on the 3rd line with Kulemin.
- ThePresident

Is there an example?? or are you just spitballin??

A different system, players are completely different outside of it, same goes for players that come from NJ and join a new team. Just curious, how many of Flipulla's points were scored playing with Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Franzen during his 66pt campaign? How many of that was on the powerplay?
- ThePresident

11 pts were on the power play, and he will have an offseason to learn the new system. i dont think it would be a huge change for him to be honest. filppula is def a better option then weiss

Catty!
- AdamFrench

I prefer Cat-tea...

And coming to play with kessel (6th ins scoring, only 3 players scored more last 2 years) is a downgrade?? I think you're missing something here.
- burn

i dont think he understands that logic lol

not to mention, filppula face off % last 2 years, 51.7% and 55.4%. easily replaces bozak, and hes learned from 2 of the best 2 way centers in the league for 7 seasons

I prefer Cat-tea...


- lumlums

You have no Hart

i dont think he understands that logic lol
- matt1337

I do, but Filpulla won't be playing with them, he's not a 1st line center, at best a borderline 2nd liner, most likely a 3rd liner by the end of the season. Look at his statistics before his 1 season of 66pts, who's more consistent? Weiss or Filpulla, Weiss is based on his statistics. Filpulla is another Kulemin, great signing for our 3rd line, if he comes cheap of course. He's a 30 point centerman.

I do, but Filpulla won't be playing with them, he's not a 1st line center, at best a borderline 2nd liner, most likely a 3rd liner by the end of the season. Look at his statistics before his 1 season of 66pts, who's more consistent? Weiss or Filpulla, Weiss is based on his statistics. Filpulla is another Kulemin, great signing for our 3rd line, if he comes cheap of course. He's a 30 point centerman.
- ThePresident

have you watched filppula play? he plays like datsyuk. he goes to datsyuk's camp that he has in the offseason to train and learn from him. what makes you think he can't be a #1 center?

You have no Hart
- AdamFrench

Just like Crosby this year

I do, but Filpulla won't be playing with them, he's not a 1st line center, at best a borderline 2nd liner, most likely a 3rd liner by the end of the season. Look at his statistics before his 1 season of 66pts, who's more consistent? Weiss or Filpulla, Weiss is based on his statistics. Filpulla is another Kulemin, great signing for our 3rd line, if he comes cheap of course. He's a 30 point centerman.
- ThePresident

If they signed him it'd be to be #1 Center, so yeah he would.

Kessel will make Weiss look better then he is, same as he did for Bozak.

have you watched filppula play? he plays like datsyuk. he goes to datsyuk's camp that he has in the offseason to train and learn from him. what makes you think he can't be a #1 center?
- matt1337

Because he's 29 years old, has had one 66 point season, with 30 point seasons every year before that, and likely last year given the whole season. He's a 30 point center, last time I checked, that's not 1st line material.

If they signed him it'd be to be #1 Center, so yeah he would.
- burn

Which wouldn't solve any problems, just as they did with Connolly, right?

Which wouldn't solve any problems, just as they did with Connolly, right?
- ThePresident

Right, same as Weiss.

Weiss does not upgrade this team. There is do doubt about that.

Because he's 29 years old, has had one 66 point season, with 30 point seasons every year before that, and likely last year given the whole season. He's a 30 point center, last time I checked, that's not 1st line material.
- ThePresident

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puBR_FIq7dQ

just watch and enjoy, i prefer him over weiss

Just like Crosby this year
- lumlums

I'm ok with OV winning the Hart, he's the most important player for his team, if he isn't on a 25 goal in 23 game streak they are at the bottom of the league, plus he's a great spokesman for steroids

Subban, eh, woulda preferred Suter, thought he was the best of the 3 this year, at least Letang lost, he got extremely exposed in the post season.

Selke...who really cares? It's sort of the pity trophy for guys who could be Hart candidates but didn't score enough, should re-name it the Dasyuk award of perversion.

Kessel will make Weiss look better then he is, same as he did for Bozak.
- coolehmon41

Exactly, Bozak would probably have 20pts playing on that Panthers team, Weiss will have better statistics playing alongside Kessel than Bozak. Weiss, easily 60pts+.

Right, same as Weiss.

Weiss does not upgrade this team. There is do doubt about that.
- burn

Who's the more consistent player?