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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
yea thats for sure. 66 pts in 81 games a season ago, didn't play amazing this year so thhe price tag wouldnt be to much
- matt1337


He plays for the Wings, big difference. See Hudler.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
Kevin McGran ‏@kevin_mcgran 17h
Kadri tied for 38th in Selke voting. Bozak was 39th #NHLAwards
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Kevin McGran ‏@kevin_mcgran 17h
Here's bottom of Selke list. Note Kadri and Seguin got votes for Def. player #NHLAwards https://twitter.com/kevin...46043324655878144/photo/1



- burn

Yeesh, Patrick Kane got a 2nd best vote...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
He plays for the Wings, big difference. See Hudler.
- ThePresident

The same can be said for Weiss and Florida...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
As a 2nd liner, if that's what we're comparing them at, Weiss is the better player. More complete, better statistically, and he won't come as expensive as everybody thinks. Hell, I'd rather have him then Grabovski too. He's going to sign at below 5 million, probably 4.5, he wants to play for the Leafs only, he had an off season last year, not exactly able to ask for the moon, this situation isn't even comparable to Connolly. Weiss has always been at the forefront of the Panthers, Connolly disappears, and has always been in the background.
- ThePresident



less than 5mil?

And this makes no sense anyways..... Grabo is overpaid, we need to get out from under that contract, but you want to sign Weiss to a similar contract?? Hmmmm....

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
Yeesh, Patrick Kane got a 2nd best vote...
- AdamFrench



Greg sherman got a vote for GM of the year.

picking names out of the hat.
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
The same can be said for Weiss and Florida...
- Flyfreaky



No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss'
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
Yeesh, Patrick Kane got a 2nd best vote...
- AdamFrench



ROR got precious few votes for Selke..... although he didn't play whole year.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
Yeesh, Patrick Kane got a 2nd best vote...
- AdamFrench



James Reimer tied for 23 for Hart.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss'
- ThePresident


and calgary is a powerhouse? which is where hudler went. calgary is a joke of a team
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
less than 5mil?

And this makes no sense anyways..... Grabo is overpaid, we need to get out from under that contract, but you want to sign Weiss to a similar contract?? Hmmmm....

- burn


Which is why I've already said, we dump Grabovski. If you actually read it, I said 4.5 million.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss'
- ThePresident

I don't buy that...That Versteeg douche went ape sh*t when he joined the Panthers after flopping with the Leafs and the Flyers...You never know how a player might fit into the scheme of a team...I think Filpulla's game translates well with the Leafs...
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
and calgary is a powerhouse? which is where hudler went. calgary is a joke of a team
- matt1337


Are people not understanding me? And that is why Hudler will not have the same success as he did on Detroit.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Are people not understanding me? And that is why Hudler will not have the same success as he did on Detroit.
- ThePresident


i dont think you understand me lol filppula wont be coming here to play with scrubs, he'll be playing with jvr and kessel
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
i dont think you understand me lol filppula wont be coming here to play with scrubs, he'll be playing with jvr and kessel
- matt1337

Exactly...
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
i dont think you understand me lol filppula wont be coming here to play with scrubs, he'll be playing with jvr and kessel
- matt1337


It's still a downgrade for Filpulla coming from the Wings, in my opinion. For Weiss, it's a clear upgrade.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
ROR got precious few votes for Selke..... although he didn't play whole year.
- burn

Look at Bozak, he is the same player!!!

46 12 16 28 6 -1

29 6 14 20 4 -3



or, nyet.

btw did Bozak get any Lady Byng votes?
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
It's still a downgrade for Filpulla coming from the Wings, in my opinion. For Weiss, it's a clear upgrade.
- ThePresident


how is it a downgrade? its not like hes playing with datsyuk and zetterberg, hell, not even franzen
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss'
- ThePresident




Guaranteed?? really??? that's quite the statement concidering I could come up with some that were surrounded by huge amounts of skill, moved onto weaker teams ans still put up points.

Versteeg. on the stacked Hawks in 2010 20G 44PTS, moved onto Leafs/Philly the next year and basically replicated those stats, then went to FLA and put up better numbers.

Ladd went from a 17G, 38pts player to a 29 goal mid 50's pts guy.

Guaranteed?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
and calgary is a powerhouse? which is where hudler went. calgary is a joke of a team
- matt1337



fly in the ointment.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
Which is why I've already said, we dump Grabovski. If you actually read it, I said 4.5 million.
- ThePresident



Neither are worth that. and how do we dump grabo??
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
It's still a downgrade for Filpulla coming from the Wings, in my opinion. For Weiss, it's a clear upgrade.
- ThePresident



What!!
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
Guaranteed?? really??? that's quite the statement concidering I could come up with some that were surrounded by huge amounts of skill, moved onto weaker teams ans still put up points.

Versteeg. on the stacked Hawks in 2010 20G 44PTS, moved onto Leafs/Philly the next year and basically replicated those stats, then went to FLA and put up better numbers.

Ladd went from a 17G, 38pts player to a 29 goal mid 50's pts guy.

Guaranteed?

- burn

BoB from Philly to..................................(frank) that sh*t...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Look at Bozak, he is the same player!!!

46 12 16 28 6 -1

29 6 14 20 4 -3



or, nyet.

btw did Bozak get any Lady Byng votes?

- AdamFrench



I didn't see that list.....


But yeah, that's pretty funny.
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
how is it a downgrade? its not like hes playing with datsyuk and zetterberg, hell, not even franzen
- matt1337


A different system, players are completely different outside of it, same goes for players that come from NJ and join a new team. Just curious, how many of Flipulla's points were scored playing with Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Franzen during his 66pt campaign? How many of that was on the powerplay?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
ROR got precious few votes for Selke..... although he didn't play whole year.
- burn


Nor did Ovie and he won the Hart
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