ThePresident
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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yea thats for sure. 66 pts in 81 games a season ago, didn't play amazing this year so thhe price tag wouldnt be to much - matt1337
He plays for the Wings, big difference. See Hudler. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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He plays for the Wings, big difference. See Hudler. - ThePresident
The same can be said for Weiss and Florida... |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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As a 2nd liner, if that's what we're comparing them at, Weiss is the better player. More complete, better statistically, and he won't come as expensive as everybody thinks. Hell, I'd rather have him then Grabovski too. He's going to sign at below 5 million, probably 4.5, he wants to play for the Leafs only, he had an off season last year, not exactly able to ask for the moon, this situation isn't even comparable to Connolly. Weiss has always been at the forefront of the Panthers, Connolly disappears, and has always been in the background. - ThePresident
less than 5mil?
And this makes no sense anyways..... Grabo is overpaid, we need to get out from under that contract, but you want to sign Weiss to a similar contract?? Hmmmm....
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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The same can be said for Weiss and Florida... - Flyfreaky
No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss' |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Yeesh, Patrick Kane got a 2nd best vote... - AdamFrench
ROR got precious few votes for Selke..... although he didn't play whole year. |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Yeesh, Patrick Kane got a 2nd best vote... - AdamFrench
James Reimer tied for 23 for Hart. |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss' - ThePresident
and calgary is a powerhouse? which is where hudler went. calgary is a joke of a team |
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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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less than 5mil?
And this makes no sense anyways..... Grabo is overpaid, we need to get out from under that contract, but you want to sign Weiss to a similar contract?? Hmmmm.... - burn
Which is why I've already said, we dump Grabovski. If you actually read it, I said 4.5 million. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss' - ThePresident
I don't buy that...That Versteeg douche went ape sh*t when he joined the Panthers after flopping with the Leafs and the Flyers...You never know how a player might fit into the scheme of a team...I think Filpulla's game translates well with the Leafs... |
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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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and calgary is a powerhouse? which is where hudler went. calgary is a joke of a team - matt1337
Are people not understanding me? And that is why Hudler will not have the same success as he did on Detroit. |
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matt1337
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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Are people not understanding me? And that is why Hudler will not have the same success as he did on Detroit. - ThePresident
i dont think you understand me lol filppula wont be coming here to play with scrubs, he'll be playing with jvr and kessel |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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i dont think you understand me lol filppula wont be coming here to play with scrubs, he'll be playing with jvr and kessel - matt1337
Exactly... |
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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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i dont think you understand me lol filppula wont be coming here to play with scrubs, he'll be playing with jvr and kessel - matt1337
It's still a downgrade for Filpulla coming from the Wings, in my opinion. For Weiss, it's a clear upgrade. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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ROR got precious few votes for Selke..... although he didn't play whole year. - burn
Look at Bozak, he is the same player!!!
46 12 16 28 6 -1
29 6 14 20 4 -3
or, nyet.
btw did Bozak get any Lady Byng votes? |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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It's still a downgrade for Filpulla coming from the Wings, in my opinion. For Weiss, it's a clear upgrade. - ThePresident
how is it a downgrade? its not like hes playing with datsyuk and zetterberg, hell, not even franzen |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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No it can't. Florida isn't exactly a powerhouse, surrounded by some of the most skilled players over the years. If Weiss played for Detroit over the last 5 years, I guarantee his statistics would be incredibly better. Likewise, if Filpulla played for Florida, his statistics would be worse than Weiss' - ThePresident
Guaranteed?? really??? that's quite the statement concidering I could come up with some that were surrounded by huge amounts of skill, moved onto weaker teams ans still put up points.
Versteeg. on the stacked Hawks in 2010 20G 44PTS, moved onto Leafs/Philly the next year and basically replicated those stats, then went to FLA and put up better numbers.
Ladd went from a 17G, 38pts player to a 29 goal mid 50's pts guy.
Guaranteed? |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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and calgary is a powerhouse? which is where hudler went. calgary is a joke of a team - matt1337
fly in the ointment. |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Which is why I've already said, we dump Grabovski. If you actually read it, I said 4.5 million. - ThePresident
Neither are worth that. and how do we dump grabo?? |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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It's still a downgrade for Filpulla coming from the Wings, in my opinion. For Weiss, it's a clear upgrade. - ThePresident
What!! |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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Guaranteed?? really??? that's quite the statement concidering I could come up with some that were surrounded by huge amounts of skill, moved onto weaker teams ans still put up points.
Versteeg. on the stacked Hawks in 2010 20G 44PTS, moved onto Leafs/Philly the next year and basically replicated those stats, then went to FLA and put up better numbers.
Ladd went from a 17G, 38pts player to a 29 goal mid 50's pts guy.
Guaranteed? - burn
BoB from Philly to..................................(frank) that sh*t... |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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how is it a downgrade? its not like hes playing with datsyuk and zetterberg, hell, not even franzen - matt1337
A different system, players are completely different outside of it, same goes for players that come from NJ and join a new team. Just curious, how many of Flipulla's points were scored playing with Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Franzen during his 66pt campaign? How many of that was on the powerplay? |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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ROR got precious few votes for Selke..... although he didn't play whole year. - burn
Nor did Ovie and he won the Hart |
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