fifty__missions
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Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Bozak is not a good powerplay fit. He's good on the draw and he's Carlyle's "go to guy" because he's been our only player consistent in that role over the last few years.
Grabovski has largely played a shutdown role since he's been here and has faced the top scoring lines of the opposition while Bozak and Kessel have played sheltered, line-matched shifts against lesser opponents over the same period of time.
Grabovski has put up more points consistently playing with lesser players against tougher competition; his Relative Corsi Quality of Competition (yeah, yeah advanced stats haters shut it) is 3rd highest on the team behind only Phaneuf and Kulemin, the latter a regular line-mate.
Yes, Bozak played the PK and took alot of defensive draws, but Grabovski was second in faceoff percentage (behind Bozak by 2%), so the margin between the two players in that regard is pretty narrow. - gravyface
'Relative Corsi Quality of Competition'? Yeah, ok. Fact is, Carlyle doesn't like the guy's game too much it seems, and he has NO chemistry with our top six wingers. |
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matt1337
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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Agree, but its UFA. And Grabo makes 5.5 as a 3rd liner, something Clarksons agent will be pointing out to Nonis. - Byfuglien Ate Me
yea but then he just needs to point at was kessel and lupul are making and point out that they are ppg players whereas clarkson isn't |
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'Relative Corsi Quality of Competition'? Yeah, ok. Fact is, Carlyle doesn't like the guy's game too much it seems, and he has NO chemistry with our top six wingers. - fifty__missions
Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien |
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coolehmon41
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.16.2011
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Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien - Byfuglien Ate Me
I wonder what the Ducks hope to get in return for Ryan
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I wonder what the Ducks hope to get in return for Ryan - coolehmon41
The above mentioned package or similar, with Grabo gone, and Ryan or Byfuglien in, no need for Clarkson, use Grabos money on Richards? |
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Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien - Byfuglien Ate Me
Van reimsdyk-Kadri-Ryan
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
decent top 6 |
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dcz28
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.20.2006
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This Filppula/Weiss debate is pretty funny although I didn't read it all. Not sure if it has been said yet but Filppula 60+ point season, he wasn't even playing center for the Wings...he was playing wing with Zetterberg as the center and Franzen on the other wing. The only time he plays 2nd line center for the Wings is when Datsyuk and Zetterberg play on the same line. He's a decent 2nd line center but not a 1st line center and he plays better as a winger than center.
What's even more funny is that many Wings fans don't want Filppula back at around 5 million per and would prefer getting Weiss thinking he would be better with the Wings than Filppula is. Might just be a case of grass being greener kind of thing I don't know.
Not a big fan of Weiss and I do like Filppula but neither are worth 5 million per. Anything over 4 million per for either I think has a good chance of ending up being a bad contract that teams will end up wishing they hadn't done. |
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I've heard the rumours but choose to believe they are false. Probably started by some depraved Oilers fan. I'm holding out hope that Ranger wants to play for the Leafs. Call me but I think he can still play at the NHL level and could take the spot of someone on the Leafs next year. - TML60
Darren Dreger = depraved Oilers fan
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coolehmon41
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.16.2011
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This Filppula/Weiss debate is pretty funny although I didn't read it all. Not sure if it has been said yet but Filppula 60+ point season, he wasn't even playing center for the Wings...he was playing wing with Zetterberg as the center and Franzen on the other wing. The only time he plays 2nd line center for the Wings is when Datsyuk and Zetterberg play on the same line. He's a decent 2nd line center but not a 1st line center and he plays better as a winger than center.
What's even more funny is that many Wings fans don't want Filppula back at around 5 million per and would prefer getting Weiss thinking he would be better with the Wings than Filppula is. Might just be a case of grass being greener kind of thing I don't know.
Not a big fan of Weiss and I do like Filppula but neither are worth 5 million per. Anything over 4 million per for either I think has a good chance of ending up being a bad contract that teams will end up wishing they hadn't done. - dcz28
Facts and logic don't belong in Leaf blogs sir. Just opinions and insults.
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UsernameUnknown
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Location: Gotta' Catch Em All! Joined: 03.25.2013
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Facts and logic don't belong in Leaf blogs sir. Just opinions and insults. - coolehmon41
And pictures of fat people. Typically in revealing clothes. |
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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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If there is an issue with a lack of centers, then maybe we should put Grabo up for auction and see what we could get for him. Even moving up a few spots in the draft would be worth moving him. Example: Grabo and our first, for Columbus' first. |
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dcz28
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.20.2006
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Facts and logic don't belong in Leaf blogs sir. Just opinions and insults. - coolehmon41
Sorry I don't come on Leaf blogs often |
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TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 04.18.2013
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Scuderi, Murray, Kaberle? - Byfuglien Ate Me
Maybe, maybe not, no way. |
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TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 04.18.2013
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Darren Dreger = depraved Oilers fan
- robin_steele264
Actually I was thinking of you when I said that. |
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TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 04.18.2013
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And pictures of fat people. Typically in revealing clothes. - UsernameUnknown
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jbold
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Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON Joined: 07.18.2010
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so the devils blogger believes clarkson may be on his way out. what do you think it will take to get him here? - matt1337
hopefully a lot so Nonis stays away. |
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TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 04.18.2013
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This Filppula/Weiss debate is pretty funny although I didn't read it all. Not sure if it has been said yet but Filppula 60+ point season, he wasn't even playing center for the Wings...he was playing wing with Zetterberg as the center and Franzen on the other wing. The only time he plays 2nd line center for the Wings is when Datsyuk and Zetterberg play on the same line. He's a decent 2nd line center but not a 1st line center and he plays better as a winger than center.
What's even more funny is that many Wings fans don't want Filppula back at around 5 million per and would prefer getting Weiss thinking he would be better with the Wings than Filppula is. Might just be a case of grass being greener kind of thing I don't know.
Not a big fan of Weiss and I do like Filppula but neither are worth 5 million per. Anything over 4 million per for either I think has a good chance of ending up being a bad contract that teams will end up wishing they hadn't done. - dcz28
OK the Wings can have Weiss and the Leafs will take Filppula. Pleasure doing business with you. |
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Maybe, maybe not, no way. - TML60
Come On, Bring back Kabs after his buyout for 1.75 for One Year. Let him fill in on injuries and be the 7th Dman. Kaberle still >> Kostka
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jbold
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Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON Joined: 07.18.2010
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Come On, Bring back Kabs after his buyout for 1.75 for One Year. Let him fill in on injuries and be the 7th Dman. Kaberle still >> Kostka - Byfuglien Ate Me
No.
Kaberle=useless. |
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TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 04.18.2013
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Come On, Bring back Kabs after his buyout for 1.75 for One Year. Let him fill in on injuries and be the 7th Dman. Kaberle still >> Kostka - Byfuglien Ate Me
In the words of Peter Griffin, "No freakin' way." |
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BetterCallSaul
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Location: Captain Morgan Rielly Joined: 05.07.2013
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If there is an issue with a lack of centers, then maybe we should put Grabo up for auction and see what we could get for him. Even moving up a few spots in the draft would be worth moving him. Example: Grabo and our first, for Columbus' first. - PrinceLH
You know what, I was really hoping we would move up in the draft but I have to admit I've changed my mind about it. I think we can grab a good player at 21, and a good centre no less. Anyone of Lazar, Compher, Hartman (though he plays the wing now I've read reports he can play centre), or Wennberg could be around at 21, even an outside shot that Horvat falls to us.
Trading up in a draft this deep could burn you, as no one seems to really agree on which player has the highest ceiling. So by trading up you risk losing extra assets for a player who may, in a few years, be lower on the depth chart and further behind in development than the player picked at 21. |
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TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 04.18.2013
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No.
Kaberle=useless. - jbold
You tell him JBold. |
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No.
Kaberle=useless. - jbold
What would you describe Kostka and Horrbinian Foldzer as then?? |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien - Byfuglien Ate Me
yeah hopefully. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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And pictures of fat people. Typically in revealing clothes. - UsernameUnknown
You guys remembered when the Pens did this...???
(Sorry guys, just wanted to make it hockey related) |
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