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fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 16 @ 9:44 PM ET
Bozak is not a good powerplay fit. He's good on the draw and he's Carlyle's "go to guy" because he's been our only player consistent in that role over the last few years.

Grabovski has largely played a shutdown role since he's been here and has faced the top scoring lines of the opposition while Bozak and Kessel have played sheltered, line-matched shifts against lesser opponents over the same period of time.

Grabovski has put up more points consistently playing with lesser players against tougher competition; his Relative Corsi Quality of Competition (yeah, yeah advanced stats haters shut it) is 3rd highest on the team behind only Phaneuf and Kulemin, the latter a regular line-mate.

Yes, Bozak played the PK and took alot of defensive draws, but Grabovski was second in faceoff percentage (behind Bozak by 2%), so the margin between the two players in that regard is pretty narrow.

- gravyface


'Relative Corsi Quality of Competition'? Yeah, ok. Fact is, Carlyle doesn't like the guy's game too much it seems, and he has NO chemistry with our top six wingers.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
Agree, but its UFA. And Grabo makes 5.5 as a 3rd liner, something Clarksons agent will be pointing out to Nonis.
- Byfuglien Ate Me


yea but then he just needs to point at was kessel and lupul are making and point out that they are ppg players whereas clarkson isn't
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
'Relative Corsi Quality of Competition'? Yeah, ok. Fact is, Carlyle doesn't like the guy's game too much it seems, and he has NO chemistry with our top six wingers.
- fifty__missions


Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien
coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:04 PM ET
Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien
- Byfuglien Ate Me


I wonder what the Ducks hope to get in return for Ryan
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:08 PM ET
I wonder what the Ducks hope to get in return for Ryan
- coolehmon41


The above mentioned package or similar, with Grabo gone, and Ryan or Byfuglien in, no need for Clarkson, use Grabos money on Richards?
TampaBoltsFan34
Location: Naples, FL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien
- Byfuglien Ate Me


Van reimsdyk-Kadri-Ryan
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel

decent top 6
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jun 16 @ 10:15 PM ET
This Filppula/Weiss debate is pretty funny although I didn't read it all. Not sure if it has been said yet but Filppula 60+ point season, he wasn't even playing center for the Wings...he was playing wing with Zetterberg as the center and Franzen on the other wing. The only time he plays 2nd line center for the Wings is when Datsyuk and Zetterberg play on the same line. He's a decent 2nd line center but not a 1st line center and he plays better as a winger than center.


What's even more funny is that many Wings fans don't want Filppula back at around 5 million per and would prefer getting Weiss thinking he would be better with the Wings than Filppula is. Might just be a case of grass being greener kind of thing I don't know.

Not a big fan of Weiss and I do like Filppula but neither are worth 5 million per. Anything over 4 million per for either I think has a good chance of ending up being a bad contract that teams will end up wishing they hadn't done.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:15 PM ET
I've heard the rumours but choose to believe they are false. Probably started by some depraved Oilers fan. I'm holding out hope that Ranger wants to play for the Leafs. Call me but I think he can still play at the NHL level and could take the spot of someone on the Leafs next year.
- TML60





Darren Dreger = depraved Oilers fan


coolehmon41
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
This Filppula/Weiss debate is pretty funny although I didn't read it all. Not sure if it has been said yet but Filppula 60+ point season, he wasn't even playing center for the Wings...he was playing wing with Zetterberg as the center and Franzen on the other wing. The only time he plays 2nd line center for the Wings is when Datsyuk and Zetterberg play on the same line. He's a decent 2nd line center but not a 1st line center and he plays better as a winger than center.


What's even more funny is that many Wings fans don't want Filppula back at around 5 million per and would prefer getting Weiss thinking he would be better with the Wings than Filppula is. Might just be a case of grass being greener kind of thing I don't know.

Not a big fan of Weiss and I do like Filppula but neither are worth 5 million per. Anything over 4 million per for either I think has a good chance of ending up being a bad contract that teams will end up wishing they hadn't done.

- dcz28


Facts and logic don't belong in Leaf blogs sir. Just opinions and insults.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:36 PM ET
Facts and logic don't belong in Leaf blogs sir. Just opinions and insults.
- coolehmon41


And pictures of fat people. Typically in revealing clothes.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 16 @ 10:39 PM ET
If there is an issue with a lack of centers, then maybe we should put Grabo up for auction and see what we could get for him. Even moving up a few spots in the draft would be worth moving him. Example: Grabo and our first, for Columbus' first.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jun 16 @ 10:43 PM ET
Facts and logic don't belong in Leaf blogs sir. Just opinions and insults.
- coolehmon41


Sorry I don't come on Leaf blogs often
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
Scuderi, Murray, Kaberle?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Maybe, maybe not, no way.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:01 PM ET
Darren Dreger = depraved Oilers fan



- robin_steele264

Actually I was thinking of you when I said that.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:02 PM ET
And pictures of fat people. Typically in revealing clothes.
- UsernameUnknown

jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:05 PM ET
so the devils blogger believes clarkson may be on his way out. what do you think it will take to get him here?
- matt1337

hopefully a lot so Nonis stays away.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:05 PM ET
This Filppula/Weiss debate is pretty funny although I didn't read it all. Not sure if it has been said yet but Filppula 60+ point season, he wasn't even playing center for the Wings...he was playing wing with Zetterberg as the center and Franzen on the other wing. The only time he plays 2nd line center for the Wings is when Datsyuk and Zetterberg play on the same line. He's a decent 2nd line center but not a 1st line center and he plays better as a winger than center.


What's even more funny is that many Wings fans don't want Filppula back at around 5 million per and would prefer getting Weiss thinking he would be better with the Wings than Filppula is. Might just be a case of grass being greener kind of thing I don't know.

Not a big fan of Weiss and I do like Filppula but neither are worth 5 million per. Anything over 4 million per for either I think has a good chance of ending up being a bad contract that teams will end up wishing they hadn't done.

- dcz28

OK the Wings can have Weiss and the Leafs will take Filppula. Pleasure doing business with you.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:05 PM ET
Maybe, maybe not, no way.
- TML60


Come On, Bring back Kabs after his buyout for 1.75 for One Year. Let him fill in on injuries and be the 7th Dman. Kaberle still >> Kostka
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
Come On, Bring back Kabs after his buyout for 1.75 for One Year. Let him fill in on injuries and be the 7th Dman. Kaberle still >> Kostka
- Byfuglien Ate Me

No.


Kaberle=useless.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
Come On, Bring back Kabs after his buyout for 1.75 for One Year. Let him fill in on injuries and be the 7th Dman. Kaberle still >> Kostka
- Byfuglien Ate Me

In the words of Peter Griffin, "No freakin' way."
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
If there is an issue with a lack of centers, then maybe we should put Grabo up for auction and see what we could get for him. Even moving up a few spots in the draft would be worth moving him. Example: Grabo and our first, for Columbus' first.
- PrinceLH

You know what, I was really hoping we would move up in the draft but I have to admit I've changed my mind about it. I think we can grab a good player at 21, and a good centre no less. Anyone of Lazar, Compher, Hartman (though he plays the wing now I've read reports he can play centre), or Wennberg could be around at 21, even an outside shot that Horvat falls to us.

Trading up in a draft this deep could burn you, as no one seems to really agree on which player has the highest ceiling. So by trading up you risk losing extra assets for a player who may, in a few years, be lower on the depth chart and further behind in development than the player picked at 21.
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
No.


Kaberle=useless.

- jbold

You tell him JBold.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
No.


Kaberle=useless.

- jbold


What would you describe Kostka and Horrbinian Foldzer as then??
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
Hopefully we can send Grabo, Gunner and poopty # 21 for Bobby Ryan or Dustin Byfuglien
- Byfuglien Ate Me



yeah hopefully.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
And pictures of fat people. Typically in revealing clothes.
- UsernameUnknown


You guys remembered when the Pens did this...???



(Sorry guys, just wanted to make it hockey related)
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