We might get nothing for him. Forget ur bias or what u think he should be worth. Perception is everything, and we're gonna lose any deal we make for him.
We're taking salary back guaranteed.
- hugefemale dog77

When your GM actively tell people you want to get rid of him I'm pretty sure demand is low.

Not a chance on your life
- Ihatebrianburke

the swap of picks is pretty nice.. i'd do that deal from both teams' perspectives.
lots of interesting reads on here

We might get nothing for him. Forget ur bias or what u think he should be worth. Perception is everything, and we're gonna lose any deal we make for him.
We're taking salary back guaranteed.
- hugefemale dog77

I don't care if we take back salary so long as its a player we can use. I'd prefer to buy him out before taking that package

I wouldn't do the deal. Hemsky is barely worth the 2nd. He's overpaid and oft-injured, and you don't know how much "win" he has, having played for a losing franchise for the last four years (not a knock on you Oiler fans). Hemsky was a good young gun during that Cup Finals run... lot of talent, but never lived up to it.

Tambellini should have moved him two years ago. As for the Devils, they can't afford to give up 39th right now. The low 2nds are about as good as late firsts, and look who the Devils keep drafting out of the 2nd and 3rd round. Better not let those slip away with the 1st slipping away next year.

Hemsky's probably not going to NJ, especially if he didn't during the deadline. NJ's kind of on crutches. If they could turn Tallinder into a 4th or maybe even a 3rd, that would work out well. If they're getting rid of vets, they're probably doing them for picks and gunning for talent via free agency. The only other movable "assets" right now are in Albany and one of Urbom or Fayne.

hemsky and 56th

for

tallinder, 39th and scarlett
- hugefemale dog77

no no no no no no

Nice to read that most devils fans appreciate what Larsson has done and brings to the team. No he's not an offensive dynamo and will never be one. But he absolutely has the potential to put up solid numbers if given PP time. His vision is something else and with more experience he will only get better. Oh he also seems to be the only guy who doesn't have his shot consistently blocked like everyone else.

All these trade scenarios for hemsky would be nice except we really shouldn't trade our 2nd rounder. Guys good but injury prone and we already have a weak prospect pool and this is suppose to be good draft. If our scouts do not suck we should be able to get a solid player with the 39th pick and could possible strike gold if we are lucky.

All these trade scenarios for hemsky would be nice except we really shouldn't trade our 2nd rounder. Guys good but injury prone and we already have a weak prospect pool and this is suppose to be good draft. If our scouts do not suck we should be able to get a solid player with the 39th pick and could possible strike gold if we are lucky.
- NickA

Yea I really don't see much point in trading an asset for Hemsky when we could possibly just sign a bought out Havlat for free. They are both the same, injury prone that need a change of scenery only if Havlat is bought out we don't have to give up any assets to sign him so I would much rather see how everything plays out and go that route.

All these trade scenarios for hemsky would be nice except we really shouldn't trade our 2nd rounder. Guys good but injury prone and we already have a weak prospect pool and this is suppose to be good draft. If our scouts do not suck we should be able to get a solid player with the 39th pick and could possible strike gold if we are lucky.
- NickA

It would be insane to trade the 2nd on its own without getting 56th overall back in the deal is what I was suggesting. My main preference would be to target the buyout of Heatley to try and spark some chemistry with Kovy. Briere would be interesting too if he was willing to come for really cheap in order to not disrupt his family by moving across the country but he isn't exactly the type of player needed. The Hemsky notion would only be if Lou couldn't find anyone to take Tallinder or A-Train for a 7th rounder in return because I'd rather not see a waste of money buyout.

I don't care if we take back salary so long as its a player we can use. I'd prefer to buy him out before taking that package
- Ihatebrianburke

Are u reading the majority of responses on that proposed deal? We're not getting MORE!

Tallinder is no gamebreaker and has kinda been on a steady decline since being a fairly effective player. but we could use him for sure. hes better than potter and comparable to n schultz. thats our #5 dman!! 6th at worst.

Granted most of the peeps who quickly dismiss hemskys talent and gloss on the negative are fairly clueless about anything to do with the guy. And probably havent watched more than 3 or 4 oiler games in years.
But i still think his perception even in the knowledgeable gm's eyes isnt gonna be very high.
A 3rd pairing guy, a save on salary for the year, moving up to a high 2nd and a decent prospect?

I just dont see how we could possibly turn our nose up at this?

It would be insane to trade the 2nd on its own without getting 56th overall back in the deal is what I was suggesting. My main preference would be to target the buyout of Heatley to try and spark some chemistry with Kovy. Briere would be interesting too if he was willing to come for really cheap in order to not disrupt his family by moving across the country but he isn't exactly the type of player needed. The Hemsky notion would only be if Lou couldn't find anyone to take Tallinder or A-Train for a 7th rounder in return because I'd rather not see a waste of money buyout.
- NJD Fan

As long as we got a second rounder id be okay then with trading it. Yeah getting nothing for Tallinder or A-train would suck. He has a lot of work to do on the back end. Can not go into the season with basically the same group. I only want Larsson, Greene, and Fayne back honestly and i think most feel this way.

I thought that too but im pretty sure Briere has nothing left. His injury history is catching up to him big time. Heatley could be a good move. His shot would be real useful on the PP and would give us another threat and get more space for Kovy out there.

As long as we got a second rounder id be okay then with trading it. Yeah getting nothing for Tallinder or A-train would suck. He has a lot of work to do on the back end. Can not go into the season with basically the same group. I only want Larsson, Greene, and Fayne back honestly and i think most feel this way.

I thought that too but im pretty sure Briere has nothing left. His injury history is catching up to him big time. Heatley could be a good move. His shot would be real useful on the PP and would give us another threat and get more space for Kovy out there.
- NickA

I totally agree on D. Larsson, Greene, Salvador, Fayne, 2 of Merril/Urbom/Gelinas would be the six I'd want. Keep Harrold as an extra guy if Lou really wants to.

I have mixed feelings about Heatly, but if he could be had for cheap I wouldn't be totally against it.

All these trade scenarios for hemsky would be nice except we really shouldn't trade our 2nd rounder. Guys good but injury prone and we already have a weak prospect pool and this is suppose to be good draft. If our scouts do not suck we should be able to get a solid player with the 39th pick and could possible strike gold if we are lucky.
- NickA

keep all your picks, what would more picks do for edm if mac-t were to make selections with them? edm doesn't need more prospects. the team needs immediate help now.

now, i don't know much about gelinas. how high would you place him on the depth chart or value?

keep all your picks, what would more picks do for edm if mac-t were to make selections with them? edm doesn't need more prospects. the team needs immediate help now.

now, i don't know much about gelinas. how high would you place him on the depth chart or value?
- deks1

He'll either be competing with Urbom for a roster spot this season or if there's space, then they'll both likely make the team. He has pretty solid value so including him in any deal would be tough but Edmonton would need to cough up another really good piece and not just Hemsky because his value is crazy low after Mac-T said he wants to trade him. Gelinas is a nicely developed and quality prospect prospect who is far better than the kind you would just stick into a trade to make it look pretty on paper.

I'll make this simple, DevFan30 is a world class troll. Trading a player like Larsson is what sets back a franchise for years. He's 20 years old and has a total of 102 nhl games to his name. During his 102 games he's a .23 ppg player. He's the highest scoring Dman taking in the 2011 draft up to this point.
- tomburton99

There have been 5 defenseman from that draft who have played in the NHL.

Larrson, Bealieu of the Canadians, Brodin of the Wild and Hamilton of the Bruins and Murphy of the Hurricanes.

Larsson has played a total of 102 games over 5 seasons and has 2 goals and 22 assists for 24 points.

The other 4 have played a total of 97 games in this shortened season and have scored 7 goals and 24 assists for 31 points. Thats a .32 ppg average.

Murphy got a late season call up and had no points in 4 games.

The three others: Hamilton: 42 games 5 goals and 11 assists, Brodin: 45 games 2 goals and 11 assists and Bealieu: 6 games and 2 assists all have a better points per game average than Larsson.

There have been 5 defenseman from that draft who have played in the NHL.

Larrson, Bealieu of the Canadians, Brodin of the Wild and Hamilton of the Bruins and Murphy of the Hurricanes.

Larsson has played a total of 102 games over 5 seasons and has 2 goals and 22 assists for 24 points.

The other 4 have played a total of 97 games in this shortened season and have scored 7 goals and 24 assists for 31 points. Thats a .32 ppg average.

Murphy got a late season call up and had no points in 4 games.

The three others: Hamilton: 42 games 5 goals and 11 assists, Brodin: 45 games 2 goals and 11 assists and Bealieu: 6 games and 2 assists all have a better points per game average than Larsson.
- Downeaster

cool. Larsson isn't an offensive forward, nor was he used in that role. This year he may be used more in that role since we won't have Zidlicky.

This. You're insane, the devils will be even worse next year. A good team? They'll contend for last place.
- GioRock

NJ will do better next year. The final 3 teams in the playoffs this year were 1, 2, and 4 in fenwick. NJ was 3rd. They just need better goaltending. Deal like Merrill for Bernier.

I wouldn't do the deal. Hemsky is barely worth the 2nd. He's overpaid and oft-injured, and you don't know how much "win" he has, having played for a losing franchise for the last four years (not a knock on you Oiler fans). Hemsky was a good young gun during that Cup Finals run... lot of talent, but never lived up to it.

Tambellini should have moved him two years ago. As for the Devils, they can't afford to give up 39th right now. The low 2nds are about as good as late firsts, and look who the Devils keep drafting out of the 2nd and 3rd round. Better not let those slip away with the 1st slipping away next year.

Hemsky's probably not going to NJ, especially if he didn't during the deadline. NJ's kind of on crutches. If they could turn Tallinder into a 4th or maybe even a 3rd, that would work out well. If they're getting rid of vets, they're probably doing them for picks and gunning for talent via free agency. The only other movable "assets" right now are in Albany and one of Urbom or Fayne.
- archromat

his 3 65+ point seasons weren't living up to his talent?

Was he supposed to be a perennial art ross candidate orrr..

NJ will do better next year. The final 3 teams in the playoffs this year were 1, 2, and 4 in fenwick. NJ was 3rd. They just need better goaltending. Deal like Merrill for Bernier.
- TheNugeIsHuge

When Marty went down we needed better goaltending. When Kovy went down we needed a scoring threat. Hopefully we aren't missing one of the two for long stretches next season.

There have been 5 defenseman from that draft who have played in the NHL.

Larrson, Bealieu of the Canadians, Brodin of the Wild and Hamilton of the Bruins and Murphy of the Hurricanes.

Larsson has played a total of 102 games over 5 seasons and has 2 goals and 22 assists for 24 points.

The other 4 have played a total of 97 games in this shortened season and have scored 7 goals and 24 assists for 31 points. Thats a .32 ppg average.

Murphy got a late season call up and had no points in 4 games.

The three others: Hamilton: 42 games 5 goals and 11 assists, Brodin: 45 games 2 goals and 11 assists and Bealieu: 6 games and 2 assists all have a better points per game average than Larsson.
- Downeaster

And without looking, my guess is they all got much more PP time than Larsson this year, and when Larsson was logging similar PP time, was putting up numbers in their range last season.