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MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 16 @ 6:56 PM ET
Lots of "facts" being thrown around here.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 16 @ 6:58 PM ET
plus if my memory serves me, adam Larsson was drafted as an OFFENSIVE defenseman. in 102 games played over 1 1/2 season he was a whole 2 goals and 22 assists. plus if urbom,merrill,gelians,etc. are NHL caliber defenseman moving Larsson for a top 6 forward is exactly what the devils need. Now I have a question why do you love Larsson so much, everybody seems to want to trade a young defenseman why not Larsson?
- devfan30


No he wasn't.

He was drafted as all-around defenseman. He was being used in a shutdown role in the SEL behind Erixon and Rundblad who were used in more offensive roles. He just had that offensive ability that wasn't being used. He still does, he was never supposed to be a great offensive guy, just a solid puck-mover with a good outlet pass and the capabilities to put up some points.
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
No he wasn't.

He was drafted as all-around defenseman. He was being used in a shutdown role in the SEL behind Erixon and Rundblad who were used in more offensive roles. He just had that offensive ability that wasn't being used. He still does, he was never supposed to be a great offensive guy, just a solid puck-mover with a good outlet pass and the capabilities to put up some points.

- _Zippy_

um, what are you talking about larsson is dog poop
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 16 @ 7:14 PM ET
the thing I love about devfan30 is that not once has he ever shown any stats proving his statements besides the fact that they are his thoughts not one fact proving Larsson is even half as bad as he thinks he is
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 16 @ 7:18 PM ET
plus if my memory serves me, adam Larsson was drafted as an OFFENSIVE defenseman. in 102 games played over 1 1/2 season he was a whole 2 goals and 22 assists. plus if urbom,merrill,gelians,etc. are NHL caliber defenseman moving Larsson for a top 6 forward is exactly what the devils need. Now I have a question why do you love Larsson so much, everybody seems to want to trade a young defenseman why not Larsson?
- devfan30


his playoff goal was a pretty big moment in the game and series

and its his two way game he isn't and wasn't thought of as a player like karlsson
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jun 16 @ 7:29 PM ET
plus if my memory serves me, adam Larsson was drafted as an OFFENSIVE defenseman. in 102 games played over 1 1/2 season he was a whole 2 goals and 22 assists. plus if urbom,merrill,gelians,etc. are NHL caliber defenseman moving Larsson for a top 6 forward is exactly what the devils need. Now I have a question why do you love Larsson so much, everybody seems to want to trade a young defenseman why not Larsson?
- devfan30


Whos wants to trade young defensemen? The only team I can thing of is Buffalo with Myers. And if everybody does want to trade a young defensman, means we must get in on the action and trade ours? Plus, theirs no point in having Larsson as an offensive defensemen if he can't play D, for example Mike Green years ago, than you would have to switch him to forward and than we would have Teddy 2.0, no offense to him. And what if Larrsson doesn't become a top 6 forward, you're saying it like he would be. Also, he would have to change his game again to become a forward, and if that doesn't work than people will complain that he sucks as a forward. Lou and the coaching staff were trying to get him to focus his game defensively first and than work on his offense second.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 7:36 PM ET
where should we start? always out of position, constantly turns the puck over, gets beat on the boards, and is making the same mistakes he made in October 2012. during the lockout he struggled in Albany, and he couldn't push washed up tallinder and a-train plus a career 6th defenseman like fayne out of the lineup. he will never be anything more than a 5th or 6th defenseman in the NHL. Now you can tell me about how defenseman develop slowly and he's only 20 years old,etc. after 2 seasons of watching him play he is good at one thing, he takes the puck out of the back of the net better than any other devils defenseman.
- devfan30


Can we all agree to banish Devfan30 from all boards in the future and from making any statements representative of the Devils fanbase? We keep having idiots coming to our threads expecting that we want to dangle larsson because Devfan30 goes into their threads and does his schtick about how he hates Larsson
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 16 @ 7:37 PM ET
So (frank)in doomed. I don't know why we would even bother playing the games next year. We'd be lucky to win two games.
- rmdevil313

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 7:39 PM ET
Can we all agree to banish Devfan30 from all boards in the future and from making any statements representative of the Devils fanbase? We keep having idiots coming to our threads expecting that we want to dangle larsson because Devfan30 goes into their threads and does his schtick about how he hates Larsson
- TheJerseyDevil1


what a total douchebag this poor guy is

rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 16 @ 7:44 PM ET
where should we start? always out of position, constantly turns the puck over, gets beat on the boards, and is making the same mistakes he made in October 2012. during the lockout he struggled in Albany, and he couldn't push washed up tallinder and a-train plus a career 6th defenseman like fayne out of the lineup. he will never be anything more than a 5th or 6th defenseman in the NHL. Now you can tell me about how defenseman develop slowly and he's only 20 years old,etc. after 2 seasons of watching him play he is good at one thing, he takes the puck out of the back of the net better than any other devils defenseman.
- devfan30


I suggest you should follow baseball or some other slower sport so you actually have a chance to keep up.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 16 @ 7:53 PM ET
Can we all agree to banish Devfan30 from all boards in the future and from making any statements representative of the Devils fanbase? We keep having idiots coming to our threads expecting that we want to dangle larsson because Devfan30 goes into their threads and does his schtick about how he hates Larsson
- TheJerseyDevil1

Agreed
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 16 @ 8:02 PM ET
just like to say that i have read this thread, and anyone who thinks NJ doesnt have a shot at the playoffs next year is flat out wrong. This team is always in the hunt come playoff time, whether its for 4th place or 8th. Never count them out. While their goalies are old, they still have the best goaltender of all time in net.

Also enough with these stupid ass Larsson "trades". he isnt going anywhere. guy will get his opportunity next year and i bet he will thrive in it.

also, a guy trolling his own team? damn. reminds me of 2Real...
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 16 @ 8:13 PM ET
just like to say that i have read this thread, and anyone who thinks NJ doesnt have a shot at the playoffs next year is flat out wrong. This team is always in the hunt come playoff time, whether its for 4th place or 8th. Never count them out. While their goalies are old, they still have the best goaltender of all time in net.

Also enough with these stupid ass Larsson "trades". he isnt going anywhere. guy will get his opportunity next year and i bet he will thrive in it.

also, a guy trolling his own team? damn. reminds me of 2Real...

- FLYERSROCK!


At the very least we should see what the roster will look like for next season. If we lose too much scoring we will be in trouble, but just losing Clarkson won't kill us.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 16 @ 8:14 PM ET
just like to say that i have read this thread, and anyone who thinks NJ doesnt have a shot at the playoffs next year is flat out wrong. This team is always in the hunt come playoff time, whether its for 4th place or 8th. Never count them out. While their goalies are old, they still have the best goaltender of all time in net.

Also enough with these stupid ass Larsson "trades". he isnt going anywhere. guy will get his opportunity next year and i bet he will thrive in it.

also, a guy trolling his own team? damn. reminds me of 2Real...

- FLYERSROCK!


Well said...

I appreciate opposition and criticism, though. I faced criticism for doubting Zidlicky and Tallinder. I'll just let Larsson's play prove devsfan30 wrong. If he has 25-40 points next season and is a +10-+15 first or second pairing role, will that silence the one or two critics?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 16 @ 8:28 PM ET
I'll make this simple, DevFan30 is a world class troll. Trading a player like Larsson is what sets back a franchise for years. He's 20 years old and has a total of 102 nhl games to his name. During his 102 games he's a .23 ppg player. He's the highest scoring Dman taking in the 2011 draft up to this point.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 16 @ 8:44 PM ET
I'll make this simple, DevFan30 is a world class troll. Trading a player like Larsson is what sets back a franchise for years. He's 20 years old and has a total of 102 nhl games to his name. During his 102 games he's a .23 ppg player. He's the highest scoring Dman taking in the 2011 draft up to this point.
- tomburton99

Thank you finally stats lol Maybe those stats will help him remember more of his good play instead of him seeing only turn overs. I would love for someone to pull up more stats on Larsson
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 16 @ 8:45 PM ET
where should we start? always out of position, constantly turns the puck over, gets beat on the boards, and is making the same mistakes he made in October 2012. during the lockout he struggled in Albany, and he couldn't push washed up tallinder and a-train plus a career 6th defenseman like fayne out of the lineup. he will never be anything more than a 5th or 6th defenseman in the NHL. Now you can tell me about how defenseman develop slowly and he's only 20 years old,etc. after 2 seasons of watching him play he is good at one thing, he takes the puck out of the back of the net better than any other devils defenseman.
- devfan30



Your a (frank)ing idiot. Not much more to say then that. You clearly do not understand the game of hockey when you watch it.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 16 @ 9:01 PM ET
Thank you finally stats lol Maybe those stats will help him remember more of his good play instead of him seeing only turn overs. I would love for someone to pull up more stats on Larsson
- blizzzard

Ok, be as facetious as possible. I'm not the one trying to run your franchise defensemen out of town. I kinda hope the devils do trade him. Will make them easier to play against in the future.

MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:29 PM ET
I'll make this simple, DevFan30 is a world class troll. Trading a player like Larsson is what sets back a franchise for years. He's 20 years old and has a total of 102 nhl games to his name. During his 102 games he's a .23 ppg player. He's the highest scoring Dman taking in the 2011 draft up to this point.
- tomburton99

So, the kid is dog poop. Is that what you're saying?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 16 @ 9:33 PM ET
So, the kid is dog poop. Is that what you're saying?
- MrToast

Eh, no. Did you read my post?
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
Ok, be as facetious as possible. I'm not the one trying to run your franchise defensemen out of town. I kinda hope the devils do trade him. Will make them easier to play against in the future.


- tomburton99

lol no I was supporting your comment not bashing it if I came off sarcastic that is not how I meant it to.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:37 PM ET
Eh, no. Did you read my post?
- tomburton99


He's being facetious.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:37 PM ET
lol no I was supporting your comment not bashing it if I came off sarcastic that is not how I meant it to.
- blizzzard


From an outsiders perspective, its probably pretty difficult to tell when we are being serious and when we are sarcastic
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:39 PM ET
Can we all agree to banish Devfan30 from all boards in the future and from making any statements representative of the Devils fanbase? We keep having idiots coming to our threads expecting that we want to dangle larsson because Devfan30 goes into their threads and does his schtick about how he hates Larsson
- TheJerseyDevil1

Idiots still have a right to state their opinions.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:43 PM ET
Idiots still have a right to state their opinions.
- MartysBetter88


no.
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