Probably throw in a NTC.
- stveshdy

Access to Snider's cryogenically frozen sperm stash.

Flyers are beyond desperate at this point. I personally think he helps on the PP and moving the puck. On the other hand he isn't very physical, his age isn't great, and I question the Islanders letting their captain walk.

Will see what happens but I don't think Streit is a replacement for Timonen. Maybe for Mez but not Kimmo.
- stveshdy

I think it's pretty much a fact that he's not a replacement for Timonen. He's no where near the defender that Kimmo is. Streit offsets the loss of Carle. Who they badly missed.

it's like getting Carle back basically, only he's better offensively
- puckhead17

but not as good defensively. should have just kept carle and JVR.

but not as good defensively. should have just kept carle and JVR.
- isaiah520

In my opinion, if they're going to sign Streit to what I think they are. I agree, they should of re-signed Carle. But I don't agree on JVR. Love that trade.

If the Flyers were truly desperate, they would have traded a King's ransom for Yandle.

As it is, they traded minor assets to get a veteran guy that fills their biggest need, and who would likely be one of the top defensemen on the UFA market, despite his age and contract status.

They do need to develop a better plan, or at least stick to one plan, rather than change course every few years. That said, despite that, they still generally have success.

Very few teams have a Norris Trophy candidate. One way to stop those chances finding the back of the net, is to limit those kinds of chances. If the Flyers want Bryzgalov, Mason, or any other Goalie to be successful here, they need to shore up the team defense first and foremost.
- MJL

that's obvious, but the two go hand-in-hand

I think it's pretty much a fact that he's not a replacement for Timonen. He's no where near the defender that Kimmo is. Streit offsets the loss of Carle. Who they badly missed.
- MJL

I don't know if Streit is that good in his own end. Hate to use plus/minus but those numbers are horrific the past two seasons.

He does a nice job on the PP and provides a nice shot from the point though.

If the Flyers were truly desperate, they would have traded a King's ransom for Yandle.

As it is, they traded minor assets to get a veteran guy that fills their biggest need, and who would likely be one of the top defensemen on the UFA market, despite his age and contract status.

They do need to develop a better plan, or at least stick to one plan, rather than change course every few years. That said, despite that, they still generally have success.
- Jsaquella

That's still a possibility. You never know with this team.

That's still a possibility. You never know with this team.
- stveshdy

It is possible, but but I think the reason they moved on Streit is that the price on Yandle, Shattenkirk, Edler, etc was too high and they balked.

In my opinion, if they're going to sign Streit to what I think they are. I agree, they should of re-signed Carle. But I don't agree on JVR. Love that trade.
- MJL

and they still need to replace him. him and jagr leaving created a void they couldn't fill. now they have schenn playing a so-so wing. oh well, bygones...

that's obvious, but the two go hand-in-hand
- isaiah520

They sure do. And unless you have a superstar like a Dominik Hasek. You're not going to have one with out the other. Bryzgalov has to play better. But if the Flyers defended like Boston, Chicago, or LA. Bryzgalov would look a whole lot better.

and they still need to replace him. him and jagr leaving created a void they couldn't fill. now they have schenn playing a so-so wing. oh well, bygones...
- isaiah520

I don't think they need a top scoring Winger. I think they have enough offensive talent. What I think they need to add is more grit and speed in the form of support players. Players that are physical, can skate, defend, and are hard to play against. Not another goal scorer like JVR.

It is possible, but but I think the reason they moved on Streit is that the price on Yandle, Shattenkirk, Edler, etc was too high and they balked.
- Jsaquella

That's my issue with this team. They always look for the homerun. Don't understand why they cant go after a defenseman who is upcoming or ready for NHL level. You need some solid guys to play in your 4-6.

Whenever you press the need for a number one (close to it) your going to have to pay a kings ransom. They need more quality guys on the backend that don't cost a fortune.

I don't know if Streit is that good in his own end. Hate to use plus/minus but those numbers are horrific the past two seasons.

He does a nice job on the PP and provides a nice shot from the point though.
- stveshdy

I wouldn't doubt that Streit becomes a scapegoat at some point. Philadelphia normally doesn't like that type of defenseman. Carle wasn't a fan favorite. And he's a much better defensive player then Streit is. Even today, Carle is still being incorrectly labeled as soft.

They sure do. And unless you have a superstar like a Dominik Hasek. You're not going to have one with out the other. Bryzgalov has to play better. But if the Flyers defended like Boston, Chicago, or LA. Bryzgalov would look a whole lot better.
- MJL

i hope he does...elsewhere

I wouldn't doubt that Streit becomes a scapegoat at some point. Philadelphia normally doesn't like that type of defenseman. Carle wasn't a fan favorite. And he's a much better defensive player then Streit is. Even today, Carle is still being incorrectly labeled as soft.
- MJL

That's my biggest fear. In two years people will be calling for Streit's head b/c of his cap hit.

That's my issue with this team. They always look for the homerun. Don't understand why they cant go after a defenseman who is upcoming or ready for NHL level. You need some solid guys to play in your 4-6.

Whenever your press the need for a number one (close to it) your going to have to pay a kings ransom. They need more quality guys on the backend that don't cost a fortune.
- stveshdy

That young player has to be available. Streit didn't cost a Kings Ransom. The Flyers are always going to operate at the top of the Cap.

i hope he does...elsewhere
- isaiah520

I want what's best for the Flyers. If Bryzgalov stays, I want him to play well. And I want him to succeed.

That young player has to be available. Streit didn't cost a Kings Ransom. The Flyers are always going to operate at the top of the Cap.
- MJL

Streit might not cost a kings ransom b/c of what it cost for his rights but his contract is going to be a ransom. I just don't think the player is that good. Personal opinion.

That's my issue with this team. They always look for the homerun. Don't understand why they cant go after a defenseman who is upcoming or ready for NHL level. You need some solid guys to play in your 4-6.

Whenever your press the need for a number one (close to it) your going to have to pay a kings ransom. They need more quality guys on the backend that don't cost a fortune.
- stveshdy

They have, depending on health, 4 or 5 guys that can play 4th or 5th defenseman roles. Coburn, Grossmann, Gustafsson, Meszaros are all very capable 4-6 defensemen.

The issue is, in the absence of Pronger, that they asked them to be more than they could be. Both systemically and in the roles they were asked to fill.

I think that the current group(Timonen, Schenn, Streit, Coburn, Gustafsson and Grossmann) if healthy can be more than adequate for the team to be a playoff team and even second tier contender...so long as the coaching staff utilizes it properly.

Streit might not cost a kings ransom b/c of what it cost for his rights but his contract is going to be a ransom. I just don't think the player is that good. Personal opinion.
- stveshdy

Like I said, probably not going to like the Cap hit. But I'm going to keep an open mind on the player. He brings some qualities to the team that they were lacking.

I want what's best for the Flyers. If Bryzgalov stays, I want him to play well. And I want him to succeed.
- MJL

If the Flyers want to make more moves over the summer they are going to buyout Bryzgalov.

Like I said, probably not going to like the Cap hit. But I'm going to keep an open mind on the player. He brings some qualities to the team that they were lacking.
- MJL

I'm keeping an open mind just don't think the player is worth that kind of a deal.

I wouldn't doubt that Streit becomes a scapegoat at some point. Philadelphia normally doesn't like that type of defenseman. Carle wasn't a fan favorite. And he's a much better defensive player then Streit is. Even today, Carle is still being incorrectly labeled as soft.
- MJL

Tampa apparently hates that type of defenseman too

If the Flyers want to make more moves over the summer they are going to buyout Bryzgalov.
- stveshdy

We'll find out soon enough.