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andymaury
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jun 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
If Mike Green in his prime never made it, their is no chance of Schultz making the team
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:51 AM ET
If Mike Green in his prime never made it, their is no chance of Schultz making the team
- andymaury

Pretty much.

talking about a guy that had 30g and 70 points the year before the olympics, also had 76 points the year of the olympics. It's also worth mentioning that he did do well for team canada in the world championships a couple years prior and still didn't make it.

To be honest the Mike Green of today has a better chance as he's rounded his game a lot since then.
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 9:56 AM ET
I cant see Coburn after how he did this past season, MDZ is unlikely as he lacks the PP QBing skills likely expected out of him, Burns may be a forward, Staal may still be feeling the effects of his eye injury, and Giordano is a stretch. Amazingly, I have no problem with Phaneuf being there. That having been said, theres a high likelihood that Schultz struggles next year. Its really common for second Dmen to do so. There may be enough team improvement to offset such a scenario, but we shouldnt be surprised if it happens.

The way I see it, Team Canada looks like this (assuming appropriate breakouts, regressions, resurgences, growth, and maintaing of play):

Hall/Duchene- Crosby- Stamkos
E. Kane*- Tavares- Giroux
E. Staal/Nash- Toews- Bergeron
Duchene/Hall- Getzlaf- Perry
Nash/E. Staal- J. Staal- Eberle**

Weber- Campbell
Peitrangelo- Keith
Subban- Hamhuis
Doughty/Letang/Green- Seabrook- Bouwmeester

Dubnyk/Crawford/Ward/Price/Luongo/Other***

* He has speed, shoots a (frank) tonne, and brings some physicality
** Eberle makes it due to international resume
*** Ward plays behind positionally awful D, Price makes it by popularity, and whichever is performing better; slight edge to Dubnyk over Crawford due to international experience

- MaximumBone


No way in hell Campbell is on the first line, while Letang is considered an extra, fringe guy. Seabrook will most likely be playing with Keith. And Doughty gets in there WAY before Hamhuis. Weber, Pietrangelo, Keith, are givens though. And if you’re going to list Dubnyk in there as a possibility, Reimer easily gets included too. Dubnyk has been pretty good. Reimer has been better.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 10:01 AM ET
No way in hell Campbell is on the first line, while Letang is considered an extra, fringe guy. Seabrook will most likely be playing with Keith. And Doughty gets in there WAY before Hamhuis. Weber, Pietrangelo, Keith, are givens though. And if you’re going to list Dubnyk in there as a possibility, Reimer easily gets included too. Dubnyk has been pretty good. Reimer has been better.
- Dirte

It'll be interesting to see how much stock they put into the bigger ice. A guy like Jbo who has been underrated a lot because of his contract could actually excel on that big ice. He's one of the best skating d-men in the league.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
It'll be interesting to see how much stock they put into the bigger ice. A guy like Jbo who has been underrated a lot because of his contract could actually excel on that big ice. He's one of the best skating d-men in the league.
- Lahey

Lahey are you still drunk and dressed up like Indianapolis Jones from last night
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
Lahey are you still drunk and dressed up like Indianapolis Jones from last night
- Ihatebrianburke

Why it's the truth. The other thing he'll potentially have is being Piterangelo's partner.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:45 AM ET
Sucks defensively they aren't going to give a spot to someone who can't play defense unless they are elite offensively. Right now he's mainly a PP guy.
- Lahey


This is the thing going against him , there are enough guys on that list that can qb a pp and play good defensively that I just don't see why he is warranted an invite
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:49 AM ET
It'll be interesting to see how much stock they put into the bigger ice. A guy like Jbo who has been underrated a lot because of his contract could actually excel on that big ice. He's one of the best skating d-men in the league.
- Lahey


Hate to say it but he would look really good as an oiler
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
Apparently MacT has a couple moves to announce once the finals are over.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:16 PM ET
Hate to say it but he would look really good as an oiler
- Redmile247

yep
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
Why it's the truth. The other thing he'll potentially have is being Piterangelo's partner.
- Lahey



It's a fair point but I don't think they'll put enough stock in big ice surface, and established partner, to overlook just how much better the other options are.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:18 PM ET
I cant see Coburn after how he did this past season, MDZ is unlikely as he lacks the PP QBing skills likely expected out of him, Burns may be a forward, Staal may still be feeling the effects of his eye injury, and Giordano is a stretch. Amazingly, I have no problem with Phaneuf being there. That having been said, theres a high likelihood that Schultz struggles next year. Its really common for second Dmen to do so. There may be enough team improvement to offset such a scenario, but we shouldnt be surprised if it happens.

The way I see it, Team Canada looks like this (assuming appropriate breakouts, regressions, resurgences, growth, and maintaing of play):

Hall/Duchene- Crosby- Stamkos
E. Kane*- Tavares- Giroux
E. Staal/Nash- Toews- Bergeron
Duchene/Hall- Getzlaf- Perry
Nash/E. Staal- J. Staal- Eberle**

Weber- Campbell
Peitrangelo- Keith
Subban- Hamhuis
Doughty/Letang/Green- Seabrook- Bouwmeester

Dubnyk/Crawford/Ward/Price/Luongo/Other***

* He has speed, shoots a (frank) tonne, and brings some physicality
** Eberle makes it due to international resume
*** Ward plays behind positionally awful D, Price makes it by popularity, and whichever is performing better; slight edge to Dubnyk over Crawford due to international experience

- MaximumBone


Carter
Richards
Benn
St.Louis
Kunitz
Neal

I'd say 3 of those will be there

Crosby, Tavares , toews, getzlaef are locks
Bergeron probably is too , stamkos and perry too
That leaves 6 spots for the rest to battle out
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:21 PM ET
Carter
Richards
Benn
St.Louis
Kunitz
Neal

I'd say 3 of those will be there

- Redmile247


yeah, probably not Jordan Staal. Richards or Carter in that spot. Probably not Duchene at all, let alone first line, at this rate.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
yeah, probably not Jordan Staal. Richards or Carter in that spot. Probably not Duchene at all, let alone first line, at this rate.
- Dirte


Looking at the roster that win gold i can only see two guys not there , iggy and morrow ...couple others might not make it but it will be tough for anyone who wasn't there in 2010 to make it .... and stamkos Tavares are going to be on that team too so don't expect the giroux, eberle , hall, Kane there unless they have unbelievable years
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
Looking at the roster that win gold i can only see two guys not there , iggy and morrow ...couple others might not make it but it will be tough for anyone who wasn't there in 2010 to make it .... and stamkos Tavares are going to be on that team too so don't expect the giroux, eberle , hall, Kane there unless they have unbelievable years
- Redmile247



Kane is very doubtful actually. I love the kid, but it's the olympics, not the NHL. Not many points for being tough as nails.

But some of those others, I don't know you can count them out.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
Apparently MacT has a couple moves to announce once the finals are over.
- Lahey


Really?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
Really?
- laughs2907

yep
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
yep
- Lahey


He's such a cock-tease.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 3:51 PM ET

Hall/Duchene- Crosby- Stamkos
E. Kane*- Tavares- Giroux
E. Staal/Nash- Toews- Bergeron
Duchene/Hall- Getzlaf- Perry
Nash/E. Staal- J. Staal- Eberle**

Weber- Campbell
Peitrangelo- Keith
Subban- Hamhuis
Doughty/Letang/Green- Seabrook- Bouwmeester

Dubnyk/Crawford/Ward/Price/Luongo/Other***

* He has speed, shoots a (frank) tonne, and brings some physicality
** Eberle makes it due to international resume
*** Ward plays behind positionally awful D, Price makes it by popularity, and whichever is performing better; slight edge to Dubnyk over Crawford due to international experience

- MaximumBone


Doughty and letang ahead of campbell and hamhuis without a doubt.

Dubnyk wasnt even starter over smith in wc's. devans probably 5th at best
Price, ward, smith

Nash over kane

Benn's on the team

I love duchenes skating and ebs clutch canada, but i think both are a stretch. Maybe 1 as the 13th guy
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 8:10 PM ET
If Mike Green in his prime never made it, their is no chance of Schultz making the team
- andymaury


talking about invites. Green got an invite
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