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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:59 AM ET
They'll take MacKinnon
- laughs2907


COL'll take Mackinnon. FLA'll take Jones. Possibly making one of Kulikov or Gudbranson available!
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:02 AM ET
don't see how that's at all laughable considering I started it with "no way he makes it".

Glad to see you weren't being ignorant. That'd be unlike flames fans

- TheNugeIsHuge


I'm not ignorant, I'm realistic ... There are more then enough guys ahead of him to get an invite.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:03 AM ET
He'll be a decent 2 or good 3. Only knock on him is that he's RH. Keep in mind D men hit their prime at around 25 not 21. Also he was injured until mid january.
- TheNugeIsHuge

He really hasn't shown anything yet though. There's the chance he turns it around, but so far he hasn't been able to produce offense or be able to do better than maybe break even defensively.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:04 AM ET
COL'll take Mackinnon. FLA'll take Jones. Possibly making one of Kulikov or Gudbranson available!
- TheNugeIsHuge


We could acquire statsny by sending hemsky+ and then acquire kulikov by sending gagner and a pick.

We then draft one of Monahan or nurse and let them develop. But I would still do what I can to grab barkov by overpaying with picks or prospects.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:05 AM ET
He might not make the team but he will be invited. Canada has a long list of strong dmen. Schultz will be looked at for his PP ability. I am not putting money on him making the team. I will put money on him being invited to try out though.
- bsteinley


why is he getting an invite? Thre are dozens of better and more qualified d men
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:12 AM ET
why is he getting an invite? Thre are dozens of better and more qualified d men
- Redmile247

1) Lowe probably has his hands in Hockey Canada pulling a string or two
2) Hockey Canada has recently called him up to play in the World Championships so he does have some Int'l experience.
3) Bigger ice surface, so fast and offensive defenseman will be needed

So there's some reasons. I don't know if he'll get an invite but there's a chance he does. It is just an invite.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 19 @ 1:21 AM ET
As they should
- Reveen


Indeed
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:24 AM ET
why is he getting an invite? Thre are dozens of better and more qualified d men
- Redmile247


dozens?really? that's what you're going with? name 15
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:25 AM ET
1) Lowe probably has his hands in Hockey Canada pulling a string or two
2) Hockey Canada has recently called him up to play in the World Championships so he does have some Int'l experience.
3) Bigger ice surface, so fast and offensive defenseman will be needed

So there's some reasons. I don't know if he'll get an invite but there's a chance he does. It is just an invite.

- Jack-artist


Well maybe I can believe he gets an Invite based on Lowe but theres been many d men go play for Canada at the WHC , doesn't mean anything
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:26 AM ET
I'm not ignorant, I'm realistic ... There are more then enough guys ahead of him to get an invite.
- Redmile247


16 Dmen got invites last time. Tell me the 16 that'll go ahead of him.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:27 AM ET
Well maybe I can believe he gets an Invite based on Lowe but theres been many d men go play for Canada at the WHC , doesn't mean anything
- Redmile247

Just saying, it would a contributing factor considering he went just this year, and they could invite minimum 15 D to camp.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:32 AM ET
dozens?really? that's what you're going with? name 15
- TheNugeIsHuge


Shea weber
Drew dourghy
Duncan Keith
Brent seabrook
Dan Boyle
Pk subban
Alex pietrangelo
Mike green
Dan hamhuis
Jay boumeester
Brent burns
Kris letang
Mike del zotto
Dion phaneuf
Brian Campbell
Marc Staal
Mark giordano
Brayden coburn
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:33 AM ET
7th highest scoring Canadian D man this year as a rookie on a sh*t team. That's laughable that he'd even get an invite
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:36 AM ET
Shea weber
Drew dourghy
Duncan Keith
Brent seabrook
Dan Boyle
Pk subban
Alex pietrangelo
Mike green
Dan hamhuis
Jay boumeester
Brent burns
Kris letang
Mike del zotto
Dion phaneuf
Brian Campbell

- Redmile247


I'm gonna guess that then 37.5YO boyle and then 35YO Campbell coming off a year just worse than rookie J Schultz's, won't be getting invites
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:36 AM ET
Shea weber
Drew dourghy
Duncan Keith
Brent seabrook
Dan Boyle
Pk subban
Alex pietrangelo
Mike green
Dan hamhuis
Jay boumeester
Brent burns
Kris letang
Mike del zotto
Dion phaneuf
Brian Campbell
Marc Staal
Mark giordano
Brayden coburn

- Redmile247




a 3 and 5 D man
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:47 AM ET
I'm gonna guess that then 37.5YO boyle and then 35YO Campbell coming off a year just worse than rookie J Schultz's, won't be getting invites
- TheNugeIsHuge


Dan Boyle really looked awful this year
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 1:49 AM ET


a 3 and 5 D man

- TheNugeIsHuge


Takes more then putting up points to win
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:50 AM ET
Takes more then putting up points to win
- Redmile247

Sure as hell don't hurt tho.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:07 AM ET
Sure as hell don't hurt tho.
- HouseArrest187


Don't get me wrong it helps a lot , but I think all the d men I listed can offer more to help Canada win gold thus why they would get invited ahead of him
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 19 @ 3:38 AM ET
He tweeted that he has a bad cold and has been in bed.
- HouseArrest187

Vaginal pain
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 4:00 AM ET
Vaginal pain
- Ihatebrianburke

I was going with rectal bleeding. But that works too.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 19 @ 4:24 AM ET
I was going with rectal bleeding. But that works too.
- HouseArrest187

Yikes. Wonder what he would have had to put in there to get some of that.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 19 @ 4:43 AM ET
Shea weber
Drew dourghy
Duncan Keith
Brent seabrook
Dan Boyle
Pk subban
Alex pietrangelo
Mike green
Dan hamhuis
Jay boumeester
Brent burns
Kris letang
Mike del zotto
Dion phaneuf
Brian Campbell
Marc Staal
Mark giordano
Brayden coburn

- Redmile247

I cant see Coburn after how he did this past season, MDZ is unlikely as he lacks the PP QBing skills likely expected out of him, Burns may be a forward, Staal may still be feeling the effects of his eye injury, and Giordano is a stretch. Amazingly, I have no problem with Phaneuf being there. That having been said, theres a high likelihood that Schultz struggles next year. Its really common for second Dmen to do so. There may be enough team improvement to offset such a scenario, but we shouldnt be surprised if it happens.

The way I see it, Team Canada looks like this (assuming appropriate breakouts, regressions, resurgences, growth, and maintaing of play):

Hall/Duchene- Crosby- Stamkos
E. Kane*- Tavares- Giroux
E. Staal/Nash- Toews- Bergeron
Duchene/Hall- Getzlaf- Perry
Nash/E. Staal- J. Staal- Eberle**

Weber- Campbell
Peitrangelo- Keith
Subban- Hamhuis
Doughty/Letang/Green- Seabrook- Bouwmeester

Dubnyk/Crawford/Ward/Price/Luongo/Other***

* He has speed, shoots a (frank) tonne, and brings some physicality
** Eberle makes it due to international resume
*** Ward plays behind positionally awful D, Price makes it by popularity, and whichever is performing better; slight edge to Dubnyk over Crawford due to international experience
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:21 AM ET
wow Sakic says they won't take Jones. That's retarded. But, say FLA takes Jones, does that make one of Gudbranson or Kulikov available
- TheNugeIsHuge

Soon as Roy was hired he started with the hints of not taking Jones.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:25 AM ET
7th highest scoring Canadian D man this year as a rookie on a sh*t team. That's laughable that he'd even get an invite
- TheNugeIsHuge

Sucks defensively they aren't going to give a spot to someone who can't play defense unless they are elite offensively. Right now he's mainly a PP guy.
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