So...you would pay Muzzin over 2M more on a 2nd contract than the Habs paid Subban? I get the whole overpay on an offer sheet theory, and you are correct. But that is a bad example. There is a difference between aggressive spending and throwing money and cap space (not to mention valuble picks) away. Paying an unknown Russian 1.5 million is low risk/high reward. Paying Muzzin 5M and losing important draft picks is not smart management.
- Jeropotato

Looks like someone can count to potato

Jst throwing it out there, but could Danny Briere help our team if the money was right for both parties?

Looks like someone can count to potato
- Ihatebrianburke

I sure can.

Jst throwing it out there, but could Danny Briere help our team if the money was right for both parties?
- Jeropotato

I was just thinking the same thing. I think it's a possibility. I wouldn't be paying him any 6.5M per year contract though.

La won't trade rights for Voynov. He is WAY too good. They will probably qualify him as well. However he would be a great target for an offer sheet if not. People talk about trading the 7th overall pick this year for a player that can play now. An offer sheet is just trading our first and third. The key is though, we would have to over pay.

St. Louis might be a good one to go after. They have Piet, Kirk and Stewart that are RFA's. Different value amounts on these but we might be able to get one with a high enough offer. Or at least take them out of the UFA market. Same with Tanev on Vancouver. If we sent an offer sheet for 3 mil (2nd round pick) they would be hard pressed to match it. I don't know how much of Tanev you saw last year but he is quite good.

What would you offer for Rask, Bobrovsky or Enroth? Knowing that Buffalo would have to match you with Miller leaving. But we could make Boston's cap situation a real problem with a big offer on Rask? Think Boston would match 6.5 for 5 years? Give them a first second and third next year for him. Is rask 3 mil better than dubey?
- bsteinley

Rask is obviously better than Dubnyk. And I would have no problem paying him 6M a year to play here. But we will NEVER get him sadly.

Their roster is stacked from top to bottom. My 2nd favorite team. Their only weakness is on the PP which is kinda messed up considering the talent they have to put out there.
- Ihatebrianburke

true still cant believe what they did to the pens 2goals really? crazy. 1st intermission is over time to hear what God has to say lol

Jst throwing it out there, but could Danny Briere help our team if the money was right for both parties?
- Jeropotato

Briere isn't the greatest in the regular season but he's money in the playoffs. I think hed probably want to go to a contender which we are not.

Yeah, they are pretty awesome. LA is solid too, I was a bit suprised the Hawks vanquished them as quick as they did. As much a I like the Bruins,and the fact that "Heavy Hockey" is the way to play lately, I prefer the make up of our Core. A highly skilled puck possesion game is pretty exciting, and talent and speed CAN overcome size and grit in the playoffs.
I like what Mac T said about how teams to often try to emulate what the most recent winners do, instead of trying to be the best at what they do themselves. The Oilers need some sandpaper,no doubt, and some size here and there too, but most importantly they just need to play a system and add the players to that system that compliment the play of Hall,Ebs,Nuge,Yak and Schultz.
- Jeropotato

I don't think that's all true about size its always been that way. Even when the oilers won in the 80s they had some of the biggest hitters and best fighters, reason why Gretzky Kurri Anderson had space. Toews and Kane don't have time and space out there. As long as Chara is on the Bruins there in the top 4 every year. Rask is a big reason to don't get me wrong.

Jst throwing it out there, but could Danny Briere help our team if the money was right for both parties?
- Jeropotato

Briere could help any team and playoff stats are the best in the last 7 or 10 years, ppl say eberle is clutch doesn't hold a candle to Briere yet but hopefully he kills Briere stats when were in the playoffs, once were there I hope its not for one season though.

is he canadian? Well I'd add him to the list. I don't know if/think he can repeat this year's performance. He was brutal in 2012. Maybe though. CDN goaltending will be a cluster(frank)
- TheNugeIsHuge

Canada shouldn't need a goalie to win games with the team they will ice
Just don't cost them games and they will be fine

After watching coaches corner I'm hoping we hold onto our pick and take Nurse if he's still there. You can never have too much D and he looks like the most confident of any of those four. Very well polished and he's a man child. Keep him in junior another year and I bet he's in the league the year after.

Are you honestly telling me that Barry Trotz's system and having the best defensive pairing in the league doesn't benefit a goalie?
- Ihatebrianburke

Sv%, not really. It cuts down on chances in general. Sv% in a ratio.

Vokoun's sv% stayed pretty consistent when he went to Florida.

Chris Mason's sv% was always pretty erratic, but he had no issues when he went to St. Louis.

He's just a VERY good goalie.

After watching coaches corner I'm hoping we hold onto our pick and take Nurse if he's still there. You can never have too much D and he looks like the most confident of any of those four. Very well polished and he's a man child. Keep him in junior another year and I bet he's in the league the year after.
- Ihatebrianburke

Or Monahan if he is still available. Nurse would awesome for Edmonton though fights,hits, big sob

Random, saw ppl talking about freddy and Jason earlier. Why isn't there anymore horror movies like that anymore not that there the best but not even one? Saw doesn't count I think. Micheal Myers, Freddy, Jason, heck even Chucky. Don't Fu@k with the Chuck

Or Monahan if he is still available. Nurse would awesome for Edmonton though fights,hits, big sob
- time2produce

If we don't trade the pick for immediate help we need to be really active with the UFA's and hopefully an offer sheet. Chris Stewart @ 5 mill per would be nice. If St. Louis matches that I offer Shattenkirk the same amount. They match that I offer Pietrangelo 7.5. They would be absolutely livid with us but (frank) em, they can't match them all.

After watching coaches corner I'm hoping we hold onto our pick and take Nurse if he's still there. You can never have too much D and he looks like the most confident of any of those four. Very well polished and he's a man child. Keep him in junior another year and I bet he's in the league the year after.
- Ihatebrianburke

Kinda what I think we should do to. He's gonna be great. I rather hold on for a year and then play him next year if training camp goes well.

I don't think that's all true about size its always been that way. Even when the oilers won in the 80s they had some of the biggest hitters and best fighters, reason why Gretzky Kurri Anderson had space. Toews and Kane don't have time and space out there. As long as Chara is on the Bruins there in the top 4 every year. Rask is a big reason to don't get me wrong.
- time2produce

Gorilla Monsoon used to say "A good big will beat a good little man any day of the week.But I've also seen a good little man beat a big man who wasn't very good,and made him look very foolish in the process". The point is you can dominate with a skill game,if you have the talent,speed and smarts,even if you won't overwhelm anyone with size. You still need grit and toughness, you just don't need 15 gorillas to win.2 or 3 is enough.

not that much. maybe 7th+MPS+37th/56th
- TheNugeIsHuge

regardless i don't think kulikov is going anywhere. even if he is, teams are to overpay.

Random, saw ppl talking about freddy and Jason earlier. Why isn't there anymore horror movies like that anymore not that there the best but not even one? Saw doesn't count I think. Micheal Myers, Freddy, Jason, heck even Chucky. Don't Fu@k with the Chuck
- time2produce

Slasher flicks made a bit of comeback in the 90's with "I know what you did last summer", and "Scream", but since then it seems like remake after remake. Rob Zombie made some good horror movies. A little on the (frank)ed up side,but pretty good,

Exactly. I almost puked after i read 7th overall and PRV.
- mbxiphos1527

well, make sure you have the bucket handy because florida ain't giving him away for free and you adding hemsky in that mix offer will only make florida consider sending another high salary contract the other way. florida doesn't need hemsky, sending kulikov to edm helps us more.

If we don't trade the pick for immediate help we need to be really active with the UFA's and hopefully an offer sheet. Chris Stewart @ 5 mill per would be nice. If St. Louis matches that I offer Shattenkirk the same amount. They match that I offer Pietrangelo 7.5. They would be absolutely livid with us but (frank) em, they can't match them all.
- Ihatebrianburke

Boooo....to that.Nothing against Stewart, we just need some value contracts to make us a competitive team in the time being for 5 reasons:
1)We need to see really what Nuge,Schultz and Yak are going to cost.
2)We have enough Talent, a good responsible plumber that can keep up will do for the top 6.
3)We need to wait and see where the cap goes.
4) We need to win a bit.Then the free agents will come to us and we won't have to overpay quite so bad.
If we're gonna blow are wad, I would rather it be on a D-Man.

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If we don't trade the pick for immediate help we need to be really active with the UFA's and hopefully an offer sheet. Chris Stewart @ 5 mill per would be nice. If St. Louis matches that I offer Shattenkirk the same amount. They match that I offer Pietrangelo 7.5. They would be absolutely livid with us but (frank) em, they can't match them all.
- Ihatebrianburke

Well I kinda don't agree with over playing a UFA when theres slim chance of the playoffs next year. On the other hand those 3 could help us big time and who cares if we piss some GMs off better getting a name out there that the oilers are sick of being bottom feeders and always doing nothing. Soooooo sick of next year next year grrrr oooo playoffs your a cruel bit@h when my teams not in lol

Gorilla Monsoon used to say "A good big will beat a good little man any day of the week.But I've also seen a good little man beat a big man who wasn't very good,and made him look very foolish in the process". The point is you can dominate with a skill game,if you have the talent,speed and smarts,even if you won't overwhelm anyone with size. You still need grit and toughness, you just don't need 15 gorillas to win.2 or 3 is enough.
- Jeropotato

Not arguing there but the 2 or 3 have to be beasts at there jobs. Lucic floats sometimes but when on his game look the F out. Just for a second think of this don't have time to come up with the draft picks and players to get this done but Lucic and Byfulien or Stewart only 2 of them without losing the young guns? would be awesome one can dream lol 10 hits last game by Lucic more than the oilers some games this year.

Not arguing there but the 2 or 3 have to be beasts at there jobs. Lucic floats sometimes but when on his game look the F out. Just for a second think of this don't have time to come up with the draft picks and players to get this done but Lucic and Byfulien or Stewart only 2 of them without losing the young guns? would be awesome one can dream lol 10 hits last game by Lucic more than the oilers some games this year.
- time2produce

No doubt, but I'm not interested in throwing money at a Superstar right now when we have 5 players that will all be high paid stars. Do we need a 5 million dollar 30 goal scoring monster or simply a 2.5 Million 18 goal scoring big body who is smart defensively and makes enough room for Yak or Ebs to get 40?

Slasher flicks made a bit of comeback in the 90's with "I know what you did last summer", and "Scream", but since then it seems like remake after remake. Rob Zombie made some good horror movies. A little on the (frank)ed up side,but pretty good,
- Jeropotato

True I know what u did last summer wasn't to bad I guess {was in love with Jennifer love Hewitt back then} Sceam was a joke ok the 1st one wasn't bad. Rob Zombies movies were messed up but good and his Halloween remake wasn't to bad either. Whats with the remakes? Hollywoods like the oilers scared to take a chance lol low blow.