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Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 16 @ 2:51 AM ET
Ugh

There's no reason the team needs to be brutal again in year 4 of a rebuild. If they concentrate on draft picks, unknown russians and giving huge minutes to rookies, then yes its almost guaranteed. Predicting this doesnt make you some sort of seer. Its inevitable.

But that's not whats gonna happen imo.. Forever losing isnt the only way to build a team. We dont only need superstar signings to become competitive. we need solid pieces and the right role players put in the right positions to succeed. Look at bostons 4th line. dominant.

In fact, financially speaking, outside of throwing some assets at a quality dman, we probably shouldnt be going after superstar players.

Its about depth. Which we dont have. But are certainlycapable of acquiring whether the free agent list this year as a ton of superstar names or not. what it does have is some quality pieces that could absolutely get us to the next level

- hugefemale dog77

Boston far and away has the best 4th line in the league. Thorton, Campbell, and Paille.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:52 AM ET
Boston far and away has the best 4th line in the league. Thorton, Campbell, and Paille.
- Ihatebrianburke

I noticed julien giving tons of ice time to paille towards the end and in the OT. he was fantastic. but apparently clouts wouldn't call him 'quality', and that signing a guy like him is inconsequential cause he doesn't score 40 goals.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 16 @ 2:52 AM ET
Pretty much what everyone else said about him. He was an overpaid bum that only really ever had a good playoff run. You know. The truth.
- Ihatebrianburke


Pretty much nailed it than... He looks like a fish as well.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:54 AM ET
since when were schultz, klefbom, and eberle 1st overall picks?
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 16 @ 2:55 AM ET
Hey Clouts, did you read Lowetides Blog on ON. He talked about a WOW trade. Not saying it's going to happen (nobody can), but what do you think of this deal if it actually happened?
Gagner,Hemmer,Marincin
For
R.Johanson, Tyutin,and Umberger

- Jeropotato

Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 16 @ 2:55 AM ET
Pretty much nailed it than... He looks like a fish as well.
- laughs2907

I truly hope he got that ulcerative collitis under control. I couldn't even imagine living with that.
pj50
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.26.2007

Jun 16 @ 2:56 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: What Do You Know?
- Maxbone

Oilers can't afford to suck for another year. They need to be able to push for the playoffs, there is no sense trying to break Toronto's record for most seasons missing the playoff's. You can't build a team thru drafts only, you need to trade for the supporting staff which the team does not have enough of. You can't just rely on prospects either, because that is just what they are, prospects. They may look good in the AHL and then suck in the NHL.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 16 @ 2:58 AM ET
since when were schultz, klefbom, and eberle 1st overall picks?
- DarcyTucker16

They are that good that the league gave them official 1st overall status. There was a ceremony and medals were given out by Alexandre Daigle
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 16 @ 3:06 AM ET
I truly hope he got that ulcerative collitis under control. I couldn't even imagine living with that.
- Ihatebrianburke


True true... Hope he's doing well with that.
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:19 AM ET
Bet rambling clouts, but entertaining all the same.
longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Jun 16 @ 3:25 AM ET
since when were schultz, klefbom, and eberle 1st overall picks?
- DarcyTucker16

not first overall
ebs 22nd overall
klefbom 19th overall
Schultz 43rd overall a second rounder.
time2produce
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:35 AM ET
Pronger has had the most impact on this team in the last 23 years followed by Rolson. We would have been in the playoffs every year he was here.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 16 @ 4:15 AM ET
So I was told that CBCs said edmonton and Carolina are talking? Who said it? If that's the case you have to think edmonton wants barkov or Monahan and Carolina wants nurse. Nischuskin is the wild card and if he goes to Tampa, edmonton could get barkov at 5. If not, taking Monahan at 5 is likely what we do.

5th for 7th and anaheims second perhaps?
orrshammerfist
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.26.2011

Jun 16 @ 8:42 AM ET
not first overall
ebs 22nd overall
klefbom 19th overall
Schultz 43rd overall a second rounder.

- longbottom


Lol im startjn to wonder if clouts belives they are lol this is the 2nd blog in 2 weeks hes called them all first overall picks haha
ikn
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 9:04 AM ET
Who's laughing now?


Me watching another Caps 1st round exit
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 16 @ 9:06 AM ET
So I was told that CBCs said edmonton and Carolina are talking? Who said it? If that's the case you have to think edmonton wants barkov or Monahan and Carolina wants nurse. Nischuskin is the wild card and if he goes to Tampa, edmonton could get barkov at 5. If not, taking Monahan at 5 is likely what we do.

5th for 7th and anaheims second perhaps?

- ystoil


That could work if Carolina is really sold on nurse, maybe you have to add somebody like plante or teubert (even though the aren't what we hoped they may thrive in Carolina for some reason or another)
TML60
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 9:12 AM ET
Ovechkin did not deserve MVP.
- Blackstrom2

I agree wholeheartedly. He only showed up for half a season. There are certainly many players more deserving than him.
JShack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The Park
Joined: 08.29.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:31 AM ET
That could work if Carolina is really sold on nurse, maybe you have to add somebody like plante or teubert (even though the aren't what we hoped they may thrive in Carolina for some reason or another)
- CrustyRooster



Insert Gernat. Those two might be worth less than Omark
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 16 @ 9:35 AM ET
What did he say about Pisani?
- laughs2907


Typical Cloutier talk.... Something about if he ever saw him and fellatio...
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:54 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: What Do You Know?
- Maxbone

"So if a team that has six - 1st overall picks (Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Klefbom, JSchultz and Yakupov) "by my count there is only 3 1st overall picks?.. or do u mean first round picks?... ur right hockey fans are stupid.
andymaury
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:57 AM ET
Just look to the Blue Jays to see what a complete roster overall can do
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 16 @ 9:59 AM ET
Oilers can't afford to suck for another year. They need to be able to push for the playoffs, there is no sense trying to break Toronto's record for most seasons missing the playoff's. You can't build a team thru drafts only, you need to trade for the supporting staff which the team does not have enough of. You can't just rely on prospects either, because that is just what they are, prospects. They may look good in the AHL and then suck in the NHL.
- pj50

all ready tied the leafs streak of missing the playoffs.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:03 AM ET
not first overall
ebs 22nd overall
klefbom 19th overall
Schultz 43rd overall a second rounder.

- longbottom

Come on guys... This is not the first time clout has called the entire group first overalls...he thinks he's funny.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:07 AM ET
Another Brutal season? Depends on your definition of Brutal. I can see some improvement.Maybe a 10th place finish in the West.All depends on the quality coming in.
- Jeropotato


I Agree.

I don't see the Oilers season as one that can be predicted right now. Not without knowing who is filling the pieces we let go. Especially the back up hole we are going to need to fill. I think a Yan Dannis type signing for that spot would signal another high end draft pick. We need someone that can play 20 games of decent tending. If we get that the Oilers are unpredictable in my books.

We got a young team that this year finally gets a training camp. A new coach. I rested and healthy top line (hoping RNH rebounds quickly). These young players aren't just going to improve by putting an all star beside them. They are also going to get better each year. Last year we made a good run but missed. This year we could go right into the middle of the pack of 8.

The Oilers have strengths in their corner. They are easily underestimated and thus often face backup goalies. They have to have a better schedule this year. No 9 game road trip playing back to back nights. Plus our team is young and we can put out two strong lines when some in our conference can only put out one.

I am not saying they won't finish dead last, I am just saying that calling this a rebuild year before we even see the team skate is premature.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:23 AM ET
I Agree.

I don't see the Oilers season as one that can be predicted right now. Not without knowing who is filling the pieces we let go. Especially the back up hole we are going to need to fill. I think a Yan Dannis type signing for that spot would signal another high end draft pick. We need someone that can play 20 games of decent tending. If we get that the Oilers are unpredictable in my books.

We got a young team that this year finally gets a training camp. A new coach. I rested and healthy top line (hoping RNH rebounds quickly). These young players aren't just going to improve by putting an all star beside them. They are also going to get better each year. Last year we made a good run but missed. This year we could go right into the middle of the pack of 8.

The Oilers have strengths in their corner. They are easily underestimated and thus often face backup goalies. They have to have a better schedule this year. No 9 game road trip playing back to back nights. Plus our team is young and we can put out two strong lines when some in our conference can only put out one.

.

I am not saying they won't finish dead last, I am just saying that calling this a rebuild year before we even see the team skate is premature.

- bsteinley




iheard a rumbling that halak was avail. I wpuld think a pick and a mid lvl prospect would be worth giving up to aquire him.

as for the first round pick, Im of the thinking we need to trade it. clouts drives me nuts with his thinking that a team filled with rookies will be a contender. its takes depth and balance. trade the pick, I'm sure theres a few teams that would bite.


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