i think it may take at least 7th, mps, klefbom.
- deks1

I don't think it costs that much

not that much. maybe 7th+MPS+37th/56th
- TheNugeIsHuge

Even that's too much in my opinion. Maybe like 7th, Hemsky, 56th and any defence prospect they want except for Klefbom. That's pretty generous right there.

don't stone me, but what about Bryzgalov as a backup if for some reason he doesn't flee to Russia?
- TheNugeIsHuge

If not stone then beat mecilessly

Even that's too much in my opinion. Maybe like 7th, Hemsky, 56th and any defence prospect they want except for Klefbom. That's pretty generous right there.
- mbxiphos1527

kulikov is a very capable defender and he'd be a big help, but imo, he aint worth the package the other poster assumed

Rinne is top 2 right now.
- Dirte

top 5 without a doubt

top 5 without a doubt
- hugefemale dog77

For me it's Lundqvist then Rinne.

For me it's Lundqvist then Rinne.
- Dirte

id put quick in there somewhere too.

those are my top 3 in no particular order

kulikov is a very capable defender and he'd be a big help, but he aint worth the package the other poster assumed
- hugefemale dog77

Exactly. I almost puked after i read 7th overall and PRV.

For me it's Lundqvist then Rinne.
- Dirte

goalies fluctuate too much. Lundqvist is the only one I can peg as a top 5. Rinne and Quick just had bad years. Bob just had a random crazily good year.

kulikov is a very capable defender and he'd be a big help, but imo, he aint worth the package the other poster assumed
- hugefemale dog77

he's 22 and gonna be a top pairing guy in no time. Kulikov-Gudbranson could be FLA's top pairing in the future. Gonna cost a lot to split that up

Rinne is top 2 right now.
- Dirte

Stats would say otherwise. And nobody else has a defensive system like Barry Trotz implements in front of them

id put quick in there somewhere too.

those are my top 3 in no particular order
- hugefemale dog77

I'm not gonna disagree.

Except that, I don't think there is any goalie in the league that comes remotely close to King Henrik right now. Not even close. Someone asked how many goalies are top 5 year in year out, earlier. Lundqvist is. Every year. He's the only one. You know, with Lundqvist, you're getting an elite performance, every single year. No other goalie can say that.

i think it may take at least 7th, mps, klefbom.
- deks1

That's ridiculous. There's no way that Kulikov fetches more than Carter, Richards, Gaborik, or Nash.

Stats would say otherwise. And nobody else has a defensive system like Barry Trotz implements in front of them
- Ihatebrianburke

He didn't have a great (half) year, no doubt. But back to back Vezina runner ups, and a high .920s save % over those two years is an incredible feat.

he's 22 and gonna be a top pairing guy in no time. Kulikov-Gudbranson could be FLA's top pairing in the future. Gonna cost a lot to split that up
- TheNugeIsHuge

No doubt about that. But we're not trading for their first round pick this year haha. With the depth in this draft, trading away a second round pick is like trading away a future star player, therefore the Oilers should avoid trading any of their 2nd round picks this year. If this trade with Florida is something that the Oilers have in mind, they should act on it as soon as possible.

That's ridiculous. There's no way that Kulikov fetches more than Carter, Richards, Gaborik, or Nash.
- Ihatebrianburke

Exactly.

He didn't have a great (half) year, no doubt. But back to back Vezina runner ups, and a high .920s save % over those two years is an incredible feat.
- Dirte

Barry Trotz! Funny how as soon as Suter leaves his numbers drop. Without 2 of the top 5 dmen in the league as your 1st pairing anyone's numbers would. I think he is a major product of that system and wouldn't want to be on the hook for his contract. Dubby put up a better save percentage with the worst D in the league in front of him and at half the price

step 1 is to attempt to find a deal for a top 4 guy with our 7th overall+ going the other way.

2. sign a ference or scuderi type if possible.

I don't know if either is possible, but if it is and we were able to acquire a two way top 4 guy and a solid dependable 3rd pairing guy, we're a much better team instantly.
- hugefemale dog77

I think this is all good in theory but I think we know what we are going to actually do. Leave our defense how it is. They have acquired what might be a long list of 5/6 pairing guys if the rookies compete well. Smid is still the second best guy next to Justin. Nick and Petry will be our number two PP. Then Belov and Potter will try to eat some minutes.

We have no assets to trade and the 7th pick is only enticing if one of the coveted 6 slips. But if they do we would be better off taking a big center that can play on our third line this year if we need than trading for another dman. We need a dman that is better than Nick. There is just nothing out there unless it comes as a salary dump or we get a buyout fall into the UFA market.

At this point we are better off with offer sheets than we are trading. I would give up next years 2nd round for a dman at 3.3 mil. I would give up a first and a third next year for a top young dman. Offering 5mill average would put us in the market to go after some good dmen if they aren't qualified.

How much would you pay for Rask? Jake Muzzin? Slava Voynov? Jared Spurgeon? Alex Pietrangelo? Kevin Shattenkirk? Chris Tanev? Jhonas Enroth? Sergei Bobrovsky? Patrick Wiercioch? Karl Alzner?

This is just some of the d and goalies. There are tons of forwards that fit our needs as well. LA would match 5 mill on Muzzin and Voynov but they wouldn't be happy. I think as Oiler fans that is the price tag we would offer and that costs us our first and third. Can Vancouver even match a 3.3 mil deal on Tanev who was amazing last year for them? I'd give them a second round pic or him. How about St. Louis with their guys. 5 mill each long term. That would mess with their budget. Then Rask 6.7 mill is the max we can offer and only owe a first second and third. I would give up those picks for Rask and that money. Boston would meet it but that would really mess with them.

This is what we have to start looking at. Seeing who is not qualified on the back end and grabbing 1. Then we look for big guys like Stalberg, Antropov, Cleary, Nystrom... role players that can fill out our bottom 6.

Barry Trotz! Funny how as soon as Suter leaves his numbers drop. Without 2 of the top 5 dmen in the league as your 1st pairing anyone's numbers would. I think he is a major product of that system and wouldn't want to be on the hook for his contract. Dubby put up a better save percentage with the worst D in the league in front of him and at half the price
- Ihatebrianburke

You still have to stop 92.5% of shots to get a sv% of .925, even with less shots. It was a short messed up season. Rinne will be just fine.

he's 22 and gonna be a top pairing guy in no time. Kulikov-Gudbranson could be FLA's top pairing in the future. Gonna cost a lot to split that up
- TheNugeIsHuge

i feel like if we' were to acquire a top pairing guy, its prob gonna cost one of klefbom or prv, along with that 7th. maybe theyd settle for marincin.
but i wouldnt even consider prv AND klefbom unless we were getting a slam dunk mcdonagh type back.

kulikov is not in that class.

i feel like if we're to acquire a top pairing guy, its prob gonna cost one of klefbom or prv, along with that 7th. maybe theyd settle for marincin.
but i wouldnt even consider prv AND klefbom unless we were getting a slam dunk mcdonagh type back.

kulikov is not in that class.
- hugefemale dog77

I'd try to keep klefbom, but what'd you want in exchange for J Schultz? That's how FLA'd feel

I'd try to keep klefbom, but what'd you want in exchange for J Schultz? That's how FLA'd feel
- TheNugeIsHuge

they have more defensive assets than we do. especially if they draft jones. just sayin.

but u mentioned kulikov. not me bro. i was just responding to what the other poster felt like theyd ask for. and i wouldnt do it for him.

if florida isnt in a position where they can/want to trade a quality dman, and would ask for a a package like that, u stay away from them.

the oilers need to identify teams that may be looking to get to the cap floor (horcoff, hemsky), overloaded at a certain position with resignings looming (nyr-defence), interested in a specific piece (prv?), at the cap ceiling (van), or thinking rebuild (buffalo). and hen go after those teams with a package tailored to their needs.
u'd hope mact already has a list of these teams ready to go.

hence me being heavily on the jaybo bandwagon pre deadline, or myers now. maybe staal. maybe edler. maybe shattenkirk etc.

I think this is all good in theory but I think we know what we are going to actually do. Leave our defense how it is. They have acquired what might be a long list of 5/6 pairing guys if the rookies compete well. Smid is still the second best guy next to Justin. Nick and Petry will be our number two PP. Then Belov and Potter will try to eat some minutes.

We have no assets to trade and the 7th pick is only enticing if one of the coveted 6 slips. But if they do we would be better off taking a big center that can play on our third line this year if we need than trading for another dman. We need a dman that is better than Nick. There is just nothing out there unless it comes as a salary dump or we get a buyout fall into the UFA market.

At this point we are better off with offer sheets than we are trading. I would give up next years 2nd round for a dman at 3.3 mil. I would give up a first and a third next year for a top young dman. Offering 5mill average would put us in the market to go after some good dmen if they aren't qualified.

How much would you pay for Rask? Jake Muzzin? Slava Voynov? Jared Spurgeon? Alex Pietrangelo? Kevin Shattenkirk? Chris Tanev? Jhonas Enroth? Sergei Bobrovsky? Patrick Wiercioch? Karl Alzner?

This is just some of the d and goalies. There are tons of forwards that fit our needs as well. LA would match 5 mill on Muzzin and Voynov but they wouldn't be happy. I think as Oiler fans that is the price tag we would offer and that costs us our first and third. Can Vancouver even match a 3.3 mil deal on Tanev who was amazing last year for them? I'd give them a second round pic or him. How about St. Louis with their guys. 5 mill each long term. That would mess with their budget. Then Rask 6.7 mill is the max we can offer and only owe a first second and third. I would give up those picks for Rask and that money. Boston would meet it but that would really mess with them.

This is what we have to start looking at. Seeing who is not qualified on the back end and grabbing 1. Then we look for big guys like Stalberg, Antropov, Cleary, Nystrom... role players that can fill out our bottom 6.
- bsteinley

I hate the idea of Potter on the roster. Hate it. For that reason I'd like to trade for Voynov's rights or come up with a trade for Pietrangelo. As far as forwards go I like Stalberg. He's one of those grinder players that we don't have. Another one is Steckel. Huge guy and can win faceoffs, which is another player we don't have. He'd do great on the fourth line.

I think this is all good in theory but I think we know what we are going to actually do. Leave our defense how it is. They have acquired what might be a long list of 5/6 pairing guys if the rookies compete well. Smid is still the second best guy next to Justin. Nick and Petry will be our number two PP. Then Belov and Potter will try to eat some minutes.

We have no assets to trade and the 7th pick is only enticing if one of the coveted 6 slips. But if they do we would be better off taking a big center that can play on our third line this year if we need than trading for another dman. We need a dman that is better than Nick. There is just nothing out there unless it comes as a salary dump or we get a buyout fall into the UFA market.

At this point we are better off with offer sheets than we are trading. I would give up next years 2nd round for a dman at 3.3 mil. I would give up a first and a third next year for a top young dman. Offering 5mill average would put us in the market to go after some good dmen if they aren't qualified.

How much would you pay for Rask? Jake Muzzin? Slava Voynov? Jared Spurgeon? Alex Pietrangelo? Kevin Shattenkirk? Chris Tanev? Jhonas Enroth? Sergei Bobrovsky? Patrick Wiercioch? Karl Alzner?

This is just some of the d and goalies. There are tons of forwards that fit our needs as well. LA would match 5 mill on Muzzin and Voynov but they wouldn't be happy. I think as Oiler fans that is the price tag we would offer and that costs us our first and third. Can Vancouver even match a 3.3 mil deal on Tanev who was amazing last year for them? I'd give them a second round pic or him. How about St. Louis with their guys. 5 mill each long term. That would mess with their budget. Then Rask 6.7 mill is the max we can offer and only owe a first second and third. I would give up those picks for Rask and that money. Boston would meet it but that would really mess with them.

This is what we have to start looking at. Seeing who is not qualified on the back end and grabbing 1. Then we look for big guys like Stalberg, Antropov, Cleary, Nystrom... role players that can fill out our bottom 6.
- bsteinley

There is no way Nick Shultz is playing on either powerplay. Belov and Potter are offensive defensemen and if they don't get used we run 4 forwards. You would pay Jake Muzzin 5 mill a year? Man are we ever lucky you're not calling the shots. We don't want to be in the basement forever. Think about things before you type them out. I could smoke an ounce of weed and drink a flat of beer and still come up with more level headed things to say than that.

You still have to stop 92.5% of shots to get a sv% of .925, even with less shots. It was a short messed up season. Rinne will be just fine.
- Dirte

Good math although its irrelevant because he had a 91% save percentage last year. That's 91 out of 100 and 910 out of 1000 if you want to bring math into the equation.