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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:38 PM ET
Crawford?
- yakattack


is he canadian? Well I'd add him to the list. I don't know if/think he can repeat this year's performance. He was brutal in 2012. Maybe though. CDN goaltending will be a cluster(frank)
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:39 PM ET
Philly?
- mbxiphos1527

While Mochoson says it's not true, there were numerous reports that Talbot was available and shortly after Spec mentioned we were in on him.

I'd also look at Boston. One of Peverley or Kelly should be dealt this summer.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:40 PM ET
Hainsey is really underrated now. Problem is I don't like where his contract is going to end up. Especially after Streit getting 4 years 22mil.
- Lahey

Hainsey is ok but I too think he's going to get a really inflated contract. Also I think we need someone that plays a more physical game than him. If we could get him for 3-3.5 I say do it but I don't think that's going to happen
yakattack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Charlottetown, PEI
Joined: 07.18.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:42 PM ET
is he canadian? Well I'd add him to the list. I don't know if/think he can repeat this year's performance. He was brutal in 2012. Maybe though. CDN goaltending will be a cluster(frank)
- TheNugeIsHuge



ya, he's Canadian, I agree with ya though, the Americans have the better goalies for sure.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:42 PM ET
Hainsey is ok but I too think he's going to get a really inflated contract. Also I think we need someone that plays a more physical game than him. If we could get him for 3-3.5 I say do it but I don't think that's going to happen
- Ihatebrianburke

I honestly don't know what to make of our d situation. Belov is suppose to get a shot, the talk about Ranger is like he is some sort of Steve Staios 2.0.

I'm just curious if they are loading up with depth or if there is a plan to get some players that are better than what we already have.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:43 PM ET
While Mochoson says it's not true, there were numerous reports that Talbot was available and shortly after Spec mentioned we were in on him.

I'd also look at Boston. One of Peverley or Kelly should be dealt this summer.

- Lahey

I wouldn't mind Talbot coming here. Coburn might be another player that could help us on D, even though he's way too overpaid.
Philly's just a disaster right now as far as the cap goes.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:43 PM ET
While Mochoson says it's not true, there were numerous reports that Talbot was available and shortly after Spec mentioned we were in on him.

I'd also look at Boston. One of Peverley or Kelly should be dealt this summer.

- Lahey


It is true, the second Homer was asked about said move and Talbots ability he shot it down and said he's not going anywhere.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 17 @ 5:45 PM ET
It is true, the second Homer was asked about said move and Talbots ability he shot it down and said he's not going anywhere.
- mochoson

Of course. How many GM's say so and so is on the trade block during the year?

I also expect him to say Ilya is a starting goaltender for years to come.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 17 @ 5:48 PM ET
Finished 4th in rookie apple picker of the year voting.
- robin_steele264


I think he should have been nominated at least. He tied for the most apples picked, and had the highest apples to basket conversion rate. I'd like to get to the core of this... I don't know what those in charge were thinking. I guess one bad apple spoils the bunch.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:50 PM ET
I don't understand why people keep on saying that we need improvement on defense. Yeah, it's not the best, I know. But at least we don't have holes in our defensive pairings like we do with our forwards. If you (realistically) look at who we have left for forwards after all the obvious players are sent to waivers, bought out, or dealt off, then you'll know what I'm talking about. It's a scary situation. If we don't do anything to improve our forwards then we litterally won't have a team come next season.

I'll help you out.

Hall RNH Eberle
N/A Gagner Yakupov
Paajarvi N/A N/A
N/A N/A N/A

That's what we're looking at for forwards right now lol. Pretty sad.

- mbxiphos1527


we keep saying it, cause its our weakest position and biggest reason we're such a mediocre team. even more so than the further maturation of our core kids.

just cause we happen to have enough bodies to fill all the spots (unlike the forwards) doesn't mean its decent. we could fill our empty forward spots with no name Russians from the khl, or rookies, or players that are borderline nhl as well if we so chose and we would probably consider it worse.

we have no minute eater, no depth and not enough quality players on our backend to be a competitive team.

and another thing; why do I keep seeing an empty spot on the 4th line wing? brown is signed thru next year. why would we even consider demoting him at this point? he was one of our only effective bottom 6'ers last year. low talent, but solid checker, the odd scrap and high energy. he'll be in our starting 12 imo
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:55 PM ET
ya, he's Canadian, I agree with ya though, the Americans have the better goalies for sure.
- yakattack


Finland's got Rask/Rinne, Sweden's got Lundqvist, Russia's got Bobrovsky, US has got Quick/Schneider/Anderson
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:55 PM ET
we keep saying it, cause its our weakest position and biggest reason we're such a mediocre team. even more so than the further maturation of our core kids.

just cause we happen to have enough bodies to fill all the spots (unlike the forwards) doesn't mean its decent. we could fill our empty forward spots with no name Russians from the khl, or rookies, or players that are borderline nhl as well if we so chose and we would probably consider it worse.

we have no minute eater, no depth and not enough quality players on our backend to be a competitive team

- hugefemale dog77

Ok well, what do you suggest we do?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:59 PM ET
Ok well, what do you suggest we do?
- mbxiphos1527

step 1 is to attempt to find a deal for a top 4 guy with our 7th overall+ going the other way.

2. sign a ference or scuderi type if possible.

I don't know if either is possible, but if it is and we were able to acquire a two way top 4 guy and a solid dependable 3rd pairing guy, we're a much better team instantly.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 5:59 PM ET
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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
don't stone me, but what about Bryzgalov as a backup if for some reason he doesn't flee to Russia?
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
Jesus Christ. Canadian goaltending has hit the sh*tter. Who's gonna play in Sochi? Luongo, Reimer, Dubey, Ward, Smith, Price all not great. The US has Schneider, Howard, Quick, and Anderson
- TheNugeIsHuge


In terms of goaltending, Canada will have one of the worst in the tournament.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
step 1 is to attempt to find a deal for a top 4 guy with our 7th overall+ going the other way.

2. sign a ference or scuderi type if possible.

I don't know if either is possible, but if it is and we were able to acquire a two way top 4 guy and a solid dependable 3rd pairing guy, we're a much better team instantly.

- hugefemale dog77


7th++ for Kulikov and Knight's rights. I'm sticking to it
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
I don't think Rinne is top 5 either. I see him as a good goalie with great stats because of Barry Trotz's defensive system
- Ihatebrianburke


Rinne is top 2 right now.
mbxiphos1527
Joined: 04.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
step 1 is to attempt to find a deal for a top 4 guy with our 7th overall+ going the other way.

2. sign a ference or scuderi type if possible.

I don't know if either is possible, but if it is and we were able to acquire a two way top 4 guy and a solid dependable 3rd pairing guy, we're a much better team instantly.

- hugefemale dog77

Scuderi is available this summer if I'm not mistaken. I haven't a clue as to who we could pick up in exchange for our 7th overall. We'd obviously want someone with experience.

But the beauty of it all is that we have loads of cap space. We can pretty much afford anyone we want.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
don't stone me, but what about Bryzgalov as a backup if for some reason he doesn't flee to Russia?
- TheNugeIsHuge

no stoning neccasary.
cheap is most important. and he probably would be
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:08 PM ET
7th++ for Kulikov and Knight's rights. I'm sticking to it
- TheNugeIsHuge


i think it may take at least 7th, mps, klefbom.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
i think it may take at least 7th, mps, klefbom.
- deks1


not that much. maybe 7th+MPS+37th/56th
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Scuderi is available this summer if I'm not mistaken. I haven't a clue as to who we could pick up in exchange for our 7th overall. We'd obviously want someone with experience.

But the beauty of it all is that we have loads of cap space. We can pretty much afford anyone we want.

- mbxiphos1527

scuderi and ference both are. but not sure if either wants to sign here. ference is a Sherwood park boy though. so its possible.

myers cold be a target. now is the time with him. or never. buffalo considering rebuild, he's had a few mediocre seasons and signed long term to quite a few dollars.
if he had a another mediocre year next, we wouldn't want his contract. if he killed it and filled his massive potential, they wouldn't deal him.

theres a few others that are possible too imo.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Of course. How many GM's say so and so is on the trade block during the year?

I also expect him to say Ilya is a starting goaltender for years to come.

- Lahey


No. He went out of his way to say he's not available. He didnt just say "were not looking to move him at this time", he literally said "he is not available,
were not trying to move him and were not interested in offers for him at this time"
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
7th++ for Kulikov and Knight's rights. I'm sticking to it
- TheNugeIsHuge

I could live with this
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