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tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 9:38 PM ET
How much longer is Qs contract?
- TrueGrit


Q's contract runs through next year. If they do not extend him this OS that would be seen as an invitation to walk.

If he were to be fired this OS after this run the FO would be setting itself up for disaster. A new coach would also need some guarantees. How do you follow this RS and PO? Hard act to follow. Barry Smith might be eaten alive.

We know there is friction but there is nothing like winning to overcome that. That writer may have just been trying to stir the pot. SC win or not this season has to be seen as a triumph.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:00 PM ET
Hawks really need to listen to terry: Time to Man UP. Outside of the obvious juice heads: chara, lucic, Thornton, and horton, this is not a huge scary team. They just play a physical game. Obviously Kane never will, but all the others need to get pissed and take it to them. They are not the 70's Flyers. They are just grinders. And that is the only edge they have over Hawks.
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:06 PM ET
Don't know if Q will be back or not, obviously, but at worst, the Hawks made the SCFinals: why does someone have to take the blame for that? It would be extremely difficult, I would think, for Stan/Scottie/McD to throw Q under the bus for not beating the Bruins.

Making the finals cannot be considered an underachievement, no matter how disappointed the fan base might be.

- StLBravesFan


So if Q's job is in jeopardy if the Hawks don't win the Cup there are quite a few coaches who should worry about their jobs. The finger pointing between members of the Hawks FO should really stop. It doesn't make any of them look good and it makes the whole organization look dysfunctional. If your team gets to the Finals everybody should get a pass.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:22 PM ET
Hawks really need to listen to terry: Time to Man UP. Outside of the obvious juice heads: chara, lucic, Thornton, and horton, this is not a huge scary team. They just play a physical game. Obviously Kane never will, but all the others need to get pissed and take it to them. They are not the 70's Flyers. They are just grinders. And that is the only edge they have over Hawks.
- tomcat24


Phucking A!

Bickell, in particular, needs to play angry again. Would love to see that from the D as well.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:23 PM ET
Whether it gets him fired or not, I don't know. But Quenneville has already been set up to take the blame—look at how many here continually ram home the President's Trophy. I guarantee you that's what Stanley will do and then "we underachieved in the playoffs."

As though the regular season and the playoffs are necessarily the same thing.

- John Jaeckel

Just spitballin' here...

I could see Q being set up to take the blame, but would reaching the SCF at least give him some immunity from getting canned?

I know I was beating the drum along with Ogie and others last summer for Q to be sent packing. I even started up a pool as to when he would be canned before the lockout happened. He's not my favorite guy in the world, and neither is Bowman, or McDouchebag for that matter. However, with as far as they went this season (and could still possibly win it all...) I would figure their jobs would be safe. At worst, if the Hawks sh!t the bed, maybe Kompon gets sent packing for the abysmal power play.
Ruboy88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: innisfil, ON
Joined: 03.03.2013

Jun 16 @ 10:29 PM ET
Personally, I would put Carcillo in for Game 3.
- John Jaeckel

Me too hopefully they do.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:30 PM ET
Phucking A!

Bickell, in particular, needs to play angry again. Would love to see that from the D as well.

- tredbrta

Yeah Bickell really needs to be pissed. We need to find Dan cleary and have him put on a bruin jersey. I have never seen someone piss him off like Cleary did. And it isn't about trying to play the bruin game and losing like pitts did. Hawks always play better engaged and pissed off
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:30 PM ET
Hawks really need to listen to terry: Time to Man UP. Outside of the obvious juice heads: chara, lucic, Thornton, and horton, this is not a huge scary team. They just play a physical game. Obviously Kane never will, but all the others need to get pissed and take it to them. They are not the 70's Flyers. They are just grinders. And that is the only edge they have over Hawks.
- tomcat24


Tom. It's about time for one of your predictions dont'cha think?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:37 PM ET
Just spitballin' here...

I could see Q being set up to take the blame, but would reaching the SCF at least give him some immunity from getting canned?

I know I was beating the drum along with Ogie and others last summer for Q to be sent packing. I even started up a pool as to when he would be canned before the lockout happened. He's not my favorite guy in the world, and neither is Bowman, or McDouchebag for that matter. However, with as far as they went this season (and could still possibly win it all...) I would figure their jobs would be safe. At worst, if the Hawks sh!t the bed, maybe Kompon gets sent packing for the abysmal power play.

- EKolb13


I think the FO is now forced into not only nt firing him, but offering him an extension.

5 years: at leat one cup, at worst one other finals, and a conference finals, plus a President's Trophy, no matter how much you discount that.

Can't fire him, can't not do an extension, after making the finals.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:37 PM ET
Me too hopefully they do.
- Ruboy88

I would, too, but he is a penalty waiting to happen. All these games are so close and it is so hard to get a goal it might kill us to give up a pp by one of his penalties. He really is a marked man by refs. Imagine him hitting horton the way he tried to hit kopecky in 2010? Damn that would be great
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:40 PM ET
Tom. It's about time for one of your predictions dont'cha think?
- HawkintheD

Damn you're right. I'm thinking Boston 5-1. unlike LA, boston can score 5. Maybe once a year, but they Can score 5
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:44 PM ET
I think the FO is now forced into not only nt firing him, but offering him an extension.

5 years: at leat one cup, at worst one other finals, and a conference finals, plus a President's Trophy, no matter how much you discount that.

Can't fire him, can't not do an extension, after making the finals.

- StLBravesFan


I didn't even think of that. That's a good point.

I could have bought that Q would have been fired if the Hawks lost to the Wild in the first round, and he would have deserved it. Same if the Hawks would have lost to the Wings. It would have been 50/50 if the Hawks lost to the Kings, with public outcry being a factor if he stayed. With a Cup appearance, I would have to think Q is pretty safe at this point.
faustus1500
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Decatur, IL
Joined: 07.16.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:48 PM ET
I think saying the Hawks should play the Bruins game because the Hawks won the first game is overlooking the fact the Hawks are not used to that style of play. It is easy to understand the right time to lay a vicious hit, but on the ice it is another story. When Hjammer laid the hit on Krejci instead of going for the puck it gave the Bruins a good scoring chance. They needed some lucky bounces to beat the Bruins in the first game. The Hawks were doing well against the Bruins in the first period of the second game, but they let up after the second goal was waved off. I am not saying that the Hawks should avoid physical contact, but they shouldn't completely change their game-plan for the Bruins.

The Hawks and the Bruins both stole games. Now, hopefully the Hawks play a full 60.
StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:50 PM ET
I didn't even think of that. That's a good point.

I could have bought that Q would have been fired if the Hawks lost to the Wild in the first round, and he would have deserved it. Same if the Hawks would have lost to the Wings. It would have been 50/50 if the Hawks lost to the Kings, with public outcry being a factor if he stayed. With a Cup appearance, I would have to think Q is pretty safe at this point.

- EKolb13


I agree with all of that.

Question is (moot at this point): what would have happened to Stan had they lost in round 1 / or 2.

I think McD would have been safe no matter what.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:54 PM ET
I think saying the Hawks should play the Bruins game because the Hawks won the first game is overlooking the fact the Hawks are not used to that style of play. It is easy to understand the right time to lay a vicious hit, but on the ice it is another story. When Hjammer laid the hit on Krejci instead of going for the puck it gave the Bruins a good scoring chance. They needed some lucky bounces to beat the Bruins in the first game. The Hawks were doing well against the Bruins in the first period of the second game, but they let up after the second goal was waved off. I am not saying that the Hawks should avoid physical contact, but they shouldn't completely change their game-plan for the Bruins.

The Hawks and the Bruins both stole games. Now, hopefully the Hawks play a full 60.

- faustus1500

I'm not saying to completely change their style but just add a little more physical tone to it. More engaged. Hammer does dish out hits like that every now and again. I think oduya was to blame there by leaving the front of the net.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
I think saying the Hawks should play the Bruins game because the Hawks won the first game is overlooking the fact the Hawks are not used to that style of play. It is easy to understand the right time to lay a vicious hit, but on the ice it is another story. When Hjammer laid the hit on Krejci instead of going for the puck it gave the Bruins a good scoring chance. They needed some lucky bounces to beat the Bruins in the first game. The Hawks were doing well against the Bruins in the first period of the second game, but they let up after the second goal was waved off. I am not saying that the Hawks should avoid physical contact, but they shouldn't completely change their game-plan for the Bruins.

The Hawks and the Bruins both stole games. Now, hopefully the Hawks play a full 60.

- faustus1500


Edzo, is that you?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
Manu Ginobili is - ummmm - the opposite of good looking enough to be on the Bruins.

This is not a handsome team.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
I think the FO is now forced into not only nt firing him, but offering him an extension.

5 years: at leat one cup, at worst one other finals, and a conference finals, plus a President's Trophy, no matter how much you discount that.

Can't fire him, can't not do an extension, after making the finals.

- StLBravesFan

The entire discussion is insane when the team is tied 1-1 in the SCF. It's more B.S. that comes out of Toronto from the likes of Damien Cox, Elliott Friedman, Doug Maclean, Steve Simmonds ; AKA media a-holes who want something controversial to discuss between games.

But if true and you want a different coach Mr. Accounting Man Stan Bowman - tell me one who's available who is better than Q. And before everybody says Dave Tippett - what the F has he ever won? But just in case you have one in the back pocket, go ahead and insult Q with a measly contact extension offer and he will resign and take his coaching skills elsewhere for more money.

And once that happens the emphasis will shift to the General Manager - and I can guarantee you I can find a better one than what this team has currently.
faustus1500
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Decatur, IL
Joined: 07.16.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:00 PM ET
Edzo, is that you?
- EKolb13


Do you think the Hawks should play the Bruins game?
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:01 PM ET
I didn't even think of that. That's a good point.

I could have bought that Q would have been fired if the Hawks lost to the Wild in the first round, and he would have deserved it. Same if the Hawks would have lost to the Wings. It would have been 50/50 if the Hawks lost to the Kings, with public outcry being a factor if he stayed. With a Cup appearance, I would have to think Q is pretty safe at this point.

- EKolb13

Why would Bowman want to get rid of Q? Assuming he was behind the knife in Savard's back, Q is his hand picked guy. I think Q was only in trouble when Bowman needed a scapegoat to cover his own a$$.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:02 PM ET
I agree with all of that.

Question is (moot at this point): what would have happened to Stan had they lost in round 1 / or 2.

I think McD would have been safe no matter what.

- StLBravesFan


I think Stan could have been gone with another 1st round loss. I would guess it would have been 50/50 odds if the Hawks lost to the Wings.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:04 PM ET
Do you think the Hawks should play the Bruins game?
- faustus1500


I think the Hawks should brig the type of game they played in the 1st period of last night. Also, converting on the power play would work wonders for the Hawks.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
Just spitballin' here...

I could see Q being set up to take the blame, but would reaching the SCF at least give him some immunity from getting canned?

I know I was beating the drum along with Ogie and others last summer for Q to be sent packing. I even started up a pool as to when he would be canned before the lockout happened. He's not my favorite guy in the world, and neither is Bowman, or McDouchebag for that matter. However, with as far as they went this season (and could still possibly win it all...) I would figure their jobs would be safe. At worst, if the Hawks sh!t the bed, maybe Kompon gets sent packing for the abysmal power play.

- EKolb13


The thing to keep in mind the Hawks were not picked as a top 4 teams to win the Cup by anything I read before the season began. I don't think they were included in as a top 3 favorite in the West.

The perception of disappointing season is based on the great regular season results which were not expected to begin with...

Inredible start, no finish as the Blackhawks drop Game 2 in OT. My Fox Chicago- FOX 32 News http://bit.ly/11IESN5
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
I think the Hawks should brig the type of game they played in the 1st period of last night. Also, converting on the power play would work wonders for the Hawks.
- EKolb13



If the Hawks have a start to game 3 like they did game 2they could be up 2 goals early.....add a Power Play goal later in the game and my good feelings would come back.....

See y'all to,or row night....
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
Manu Ginobili is - ummmm - the opposite of good looking enough to be on the Bruins.

This is not a handsome team.

- StLBravesFan

What's a Manu?
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