Hopefully Myers bounces back just like Landy.
- benny948

Hopefully he finally gets that you have to be in elite shape at the start of camp, not working your way into it the first few months of the season.

Hopefully he finally gets that you have to be in elite shape at the start of camp, not working your way into it the first few months of the season.
- Pierceme69

That was the problem with Duchene the year before, it seemed like he spend all offseason just fishing and having fun. Then during the lockout offseason, he was working out with Crosby and changed his training regime and diet, and just had a great season since he started to take the offseason training more seriously

That was the problem with Duchene the year before, it seemed like he spend all offseason just fishing and having fun. Then during the lockout offseason, he was working out with Crosby and changed his training regime and diet, and just had a great season since he started to take the offseason training more seriously
- DDM-Coga

Myers is the biggest thing that could make us a cusp playoff team this season. If he is as good as he was his rookie year our defense is drastically better.

Armia will probably slot in on the 1st line as well.
- benny948

Ya,
Last year in rookie camp they had a line of
Girgensons-Grigorenko-Armia
That seems like our future top line to me

If we don't trade Ennis,
I see him going back to LW and playing with Hodgson
We need a physical RW that can playin front of the net with them though
Maybe Foligno can switch sides?

And then a 3rd line of
Catenacci-Larsson-Tropp
Could be tough to play against and provide scoring as well

However, with all the draft picks we have,
And what we'd get back in possible Miller & Vanek trades,
I can def see line 2 & 3 with some upgrades

We do have to figure out our defense too though,
ESP if Myers can't re-find his game

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of targeting Carolina's pick at #5. At that spot the worst we get is likely Nichuskin. The idea of Nichuskin on a line with Grigorenko is intriguing to me. I think it would help to get the best out of both players. If we then got Erne at #16 we could really help Grigs confidence by drafting players he is familiar with.
- Pierceme69

That makes sense
I still like Lindholm over Nichuskin though
And I like the idea of Girgensons & Armia on the wings with Grigorenko too
But they will prob be centered by Larsson in Rochester this year, at least to start

I'm very interested to see what we do w Miller & Vanek at the draft too
Moving them opens up even more possibilities

Ya,
Last year in rookie camp they had a line of
Girgensons-Grigorenko-Armia
That seems like our future top line to me

If we don't trade Ennis,
I see him going back to LW and playing with Hodgson
We need a physical RW that can playin front of the net with them though
Maybe Foligno can switch sides?

And then a 3rd line of
Catenacci-Larsson-Tropp
Could be tough to play against and provide scoring as well

However, with all the draft picks we have,
And what we'd get back in possible Miller & Vanek trades,
I can def see line 2 & 3 with some upgrades

We do have to figure out our defense too though,
ESP if Myers can't re-find his game
- jdfitz77

How did the line of Girgs, Grigs, and Armia look?

Hopefully he finally gets that you have to be in elite shape at the start of camp, not working your way into it the first few months of the season.
- Pierceme69

He is spending the majority of the summer in Buffalo training, unlike last summer. I think he will do better because of this.

How did the line of Girgs, Grigs, and Armia look?
- benny948

Solid, but not spectacular...
They've all got some developing to do
It'll look a lot better at camp this year, if they keep them together...

After we got Larsson, he was centering Girgensons in Rochester at the end of last season, and they looked good together...
They may wanna see where that goes
And if Armia starts in Rochester, then I could see him on that line as well at RW

Grigorenko will be on the Sabres,
And my guess is he starts with some combo of Ott, Leino &/or Stafford

Many ways they can go

He is spending the majority of the summer in Buffalo training, unlike last summer. I think he will do better because of this.
- benny948

We def need Myers to get his act together quickly

Solid, but not spectacular...
They've all got some developing to do
It'll look a lot better at camp this year, if they keep them together...

After we got Larsson, he was centering Girgensons in Rochester at the end of last season, and they looked good together...
They may wanna see where that goes
And if Armia starts in Rochester, then I could see him on that line as well at RW

Grigorenko will be on the Sabres,
And my guess is he starts with some combo of Ott, Leino &/or Stafford

Many ways they can go
- jdfitz77

Larson, Girgensons, and another tough player would form a great 2nd/ 3rd line. If Rolston puts Grigorenko with Ott, Leino, or Stafford, then he will probably have a good year. Our draft selection should spend time in the juniors or overseas, unless we trade up.

def need Myers to get his act together quickly
- jdfitz77

I would expect 35-45 pts nxt year, if not then he is a waste of money.

[quote=benny948]

I'm more concerned w how Myers plays in his own zone
We need him to become a "shutdown" guy

I'm more concerned w how Myers plays in his own zone
We need him to become a "shutdown" guy
- jdfitz77

He needs to be a more responsible two way defenseman. Ehrhoff can provide some of the offense, but Myers does have an obligation to chip in as well.

Not surprised. I don't believe Feaster is in good graces with Colorado these days anyway, left them with egg on their face with O'Reilly.

While it certainly would be a good deal for Calgary, at this point, I almost like the idea of multiple picks at the first round....or to trade to #2-5 which may be more attainable. They need a LOT of help, and 3 picks will go a long way should no trade be made.

Also think Buffalo needs to hang on to both of their picks.

That makes sense
I still like Lindholm over Nichuskin though
And I like the idea of Girgensons & Armia on the wings with Grigorenko too
But they will prob be centered by Larsson in Rochester this year, at least to start

I'm very interested to see what we do w Miller & Vanek at the draft too
Moving them opens up even more possibilities
- jdfitz77

Miller for Fleury and Letang.
Keep Vanek.

I'm more concerned w how Myers plays in his own zone
We need him to become a "shutdown" guy
- jdfitz77

Disagree totally. Myers strengths are that of an offensive dman. When they asked him to focus more on being a shutdown guy is when his game went to crap. He needs to be paired with a shutdown guy so that he can do what he does best. Much like he did with Tallinder.

Edit: It would be nice if Myers was that kind of Dman given his size, but that is not his game. His best year was when he was pinching in and contributing offensively.

Miller for Fleury and Letang.
Keep Vanek.
- FLflames34

no way miller gets letang one for one, let alone getting fleury

it would prob be fleury+3rd for miller

2003: Fleury vs. Michalek, Pouliot, Perry
2004: Ovechkin vs. Montoya, Kaspars, Fistric
2005: Crosby vs. Brule, Lashoff, Niskanen
2006: Johnson vs. Brassard, Giroux, Foligno
2007: Kane vs. Gagne, Pacioretty, Petrecki
2008: Stamkos vs. Filatov, Eberle, Tikhonov
2009: Tavares vs. Ekman-Larsson, Schroeder, Olsen
2010: Hall vs. Connolly, Tinordi, Coyle
2011: Nugent-Hopkins vs. Zibanejad, Biggs, Phillips
2012: Yakopov vs. Lindholm, Maata, Skjei

#1 Vs. 6, 22, 28 in previous years...most years it is a good deal for the team with 3 picks
- flashfire

'03, '06 and '07 that's it

Who's better kane or gagne
- hallwillcrushu

Gagner+pacioretty

no way miller gets letang one for one, let alone getting fleury

it would prob be fleury+3rd for miller
- dmarsden2988

No way, Fleury has proven that he is not an able goaltender in the playoffs. It would be better just to keep Miller, who has consistency to his game.

no way miller gets letang one for one, let alone getting fleury

it would prob be fleury+3rd for miller
- dmarsden2988

Only thing Fluery is getting Pitt in a trade is a puck bag.

no way miller gets letang one for one, let alone getting fleury

it would prob be fleury+3rd for miller
- dmarsden2988

I disagree. Miller is still in his relative prime, Fleury is damaged goods, and the Pens have little and less of a shot to re-sign Letang. MAAAAAYYYBBBBEEE Buff throws a mid-rd pick in that trade. I don't think they'd have to though.
Pens are in cap hell now.

Disagree totally. Myers strengths are that of an offensive dman. When they asked him to focus more on being a shutdown guy is when his game went to crap. He needs to be paired with a shutdown guy so that he can do what he does best. Much like he did with Tallinder.

Edit: It would be nice if Myers was that kind of Dman given his size, but that is not his game. His best year was when he was pinching in and contributing offensively.
- rmiethaner

Then he needs to be paired with McNabb, not Ehrhoff
And we need to find a physical, shutdown type to play with Ehrhoff...
My pick would a be fellow Fin...
I really like Ristolainen
I've seen him going as high as #7 though, and as low as in the 20s, in all the mock drafts I've seen...
My hope is tht he falls to 16
If that happens I will be unbelievably ecstatic

And looking into how our defense shapes up for the future...
It also makes either McCabe or Pysyk expendable IMO
They are very much the same type of player, and it would make sense to pair one of them with a more physical type

OR...
(this is what I'd do)
Keep McNabb & Pysyk together as our 2nd pair
And that makes Myers tradable
Either #7 from Edmonton or #5 from Carolina sounds about right for him

No way, Fleury has proven that he is not an able goaltender in the playoffs. It would be better just to keep Miller, who has consistency to his game.
- benny948

The catch in that trade is Letang, not Fleury, which would be worth trading Miller. I think Enroth can be a solid starter for Buffalo, with an improved D that begins with Letang.

No way, Fleury has proven that he is not an able goaltender in the playoffs. It would be better just to keep Miller, who has consistency to his game.
- benny948

miller is the better goalie, but not by a huge margin, but he is also getting older and on a 1yr deal so unless he is extended then i doubt he would get a big return, while fleury has sucked lately in the playoffs (big time) he still was very good in both finals and the run up to the finals and since he is still young its possible he can get back to those numbers, miller while an above average (not elite) goalie hasnt shown lately what he can do in the playoffs , but his little temper tantrums may fit in nicely with the pens

I disagree. Miller is still in his relative prime, Fleury is damaged goods, and the Pens have little and less of a shot to re-sign Letang. MAAAAAYYYBBBBEEE Buff throws a mid-rd pick in that trade. I don't think they'd have to though.
Pens are in cap hell now.
- FLflames34

they can trade letang to any team and get a big return in prospects and/or picks

edit: the cap will most likely go up following next year too so depending how much the pens maybe able to keep him