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- 716buffalo

I don't really wanna trade Miller to Colorado
I doubt they're actually gonna trade the top pick, and i dont think i'd wanna give them the type of overpayment it'd take anyways...
We can't get O'reilly from them till Feb, and I want NO part of Stastny... so unless they'd give up Duchesne or Landeskog (which I highly doubt), I just don't see us as good trading partners

stricker just blew his chance
- navinrjohnson

That was about an awful of 2 holes you could play.

That was about an awful of 2 holes you could play.
- ImThatGuy

I hate watching golf....
Sooooo boring

I'll go golfing though, that's fun
Hell, Id rather go mini-golfing than watch the real thing
Hahaha

I don't really wanna trade Miller to Colorado
I doubt they're actually gonna trade the top pick, and i dont think i'd wanna give them the type of overpayment it'd take anyways...
We can't get O'reilly from them till Feb, and I want NO part of Stastny... so unless they'd give up Duchesne or Landeskog (which I highly doubt), I just don't see us as good trading partners
- jdfitz77

IDK about Landeskog, he had a really bad year. But he was on a bad team. I think that it may be a Myers situation. The Sabres should target only Duchene.

Hall's already a ppg player. Give him 2 years and he's a top 10 player in the league. What a stupid comment. You must know more than every hockey analyst in the world.
- Ihatebrianburke

Yea lets see him play a full season first. Thomas Vanek is a PPG player in a 40 game season as well.

IDK about Landeskog, he had a really bad year. But he was on a bad team. I think that it may be a Myers situation. The Sabres should target only Duchene.
- benny948

I think Landeskog is the real deal
If they'd trade him straight up for Miller I'd do that in a heartbeat
I'd trade them either Myers or Grigorenko for him too

I like Duchesne, but I really think we are good at center
The way I see it, our centers of the future are;
Line 1- Grigorenko
Line 2- Hodgson
Line 3- Larsson
-with Girgensons, Ennis & Catenacci all playing wing in the top9
-we also have Kea, Schaller & Jacobs who should all be at least a solid 4th line center, with 3rd line potential

A trade of Miller and Grigorenko (assuming Roy wants them), for Duchesne and Landeskog would work for me...
But Miller would have to agree to an extension or they wouldn't do it
And we might even have to add more to make the deal work

IDK about Landeskog, he had a really bad year. But he was on a bad team. I think that it may be a Myers situation. The Sabres should target only Duchene.
- benny948

Landy and Duchene are untouchables. Landeskog had a tough year, partially concussion issues, and the fact that Sacco refused to play him and O'Reilly together once they both got back. Their value is way too high in the Avs Organization and you wouldnt want to know what we would be demanding for that trade to go down

I think Landeskog is the real deal
If they'd trade him straight up for Miller I'd do that in a heartbeat
I'd trade them either Myers or Grigorenko for him too

I like Duchesne, but I really think we are good at center
The way I see it, our centers of the future are;
Line 1- Grigorenko
Line 2- Hodgson
Line 3- Larsson
-with Girgensons, Ennis & Catenacci all playing wing in the top9
-we also have Kea, Schaller & Jacobs who should all be at least a solid 4th line center, with 3rd line potential

A trade of Miller and Grigorenko (assuming Roy wants them), for Duchesne and Landeskog would work for me...
But Miller would have to agree to an extension or they wouldn't do it
And we might even have to add more to make the deal work
- jdfitz77

You would have to have players like Myers and Hogdson in that conversation. Avs want nothing to do with Miller. YOu have to overpay to get those guys, not NHL13 try and match their ratings to make a trade

Yea lets see him play a full season first. Thomas Vanek is a PPG player in a 40 game season as well.
- sbroads24

Hall does look like he'll be pretty darn good
Those other 3 have some nice potential too though...
I'd bet in a couple years u might have a pretty good argument
For right now though,
Hall is the choice

You would have to have players like Myers and Hogdson in that conversation. Avs want nothing to do with Miller. YOu have to overpay to get those guys, not NHL13 try and match their ratings to make a trade
- DDM-Coga

Well I did make a comment in there about Roy actually wanting Miller & Grigorenko, and also that we might have to add to it

Would u trade Landeskog for Myers?
Then u guys take MacKinnon, and can trade Stastny for another Defenseman...
Assuming Varlamov can be "the guy" for you,
I think that would put you in pretty good shape moving forward

Well I did make a comment in there about Roy actually wanting Miller & Grigorenko, and also that we might have to add to it

Would u trade Landeskog for Myers?
Then u guys take MacKinnon, and can trade Stastny for another Defenseman...
Assuming Varlamov can be "the guy" for you,
I think that would put you in pretty good shape moving forward
- jdfitz77

No I dont think we would do that trade, turn it down 100 times out of a 100. Landeskog is the leader of that team and just a warrior. We lost Stewart on a trade for a hope and a dream Dman in EJ. We wouldnt lose Landy for the same potential type of trade

Landy and Duchene are untouchables. Landeskog had a tough year, partially concussion issues, and the fact that Sacco refused to play him and O'Reilly together once they both got back. Their value is way too high in the Avs Organization and you wouldnt want to know what we would be demanding for that trade to go down
- DDM-Coga

Are the Avs gonna get O'reilly to sign an extension?
Man, that could another giant mess after this season if he doesn't
I can't imagine they'd wanna qualify him at 6.5 mil?
That's just nuts
ESP since they didn't wanna give him the 5mil per he wanted

Hall does look like he'll be pretty darn good
Those other 3 have some nice potential too though...
I'd bet in a couple years u might have a pretty good argument
For right now though,
Hall is the choice
- jdfitz77

Which is why I said in 2 years..
I also didn't say definitely either
Coyle was on Minnys first line by years end
Tinordi should end up being a decent top 4 guy
Connolly has the potential to be a 30 goal scorer

Sure Hall will be great for the 60 games a year he plays

No I dont think we would do that trade, turn it down 100 times out of a 100. Landeskog is the leader of that team and just a warrior. We lost Stewart on a trade for a hope and a dream Dman in EJ. We wouldnt lose Landy for the same potential type of trade
- DDM-Coga

That makes sense
Has Johnson been that bad for you though?
I think u guys lost the trade,
But mostly bc u included Shattenkirk who has turned out really nicely

Are the Avs gonna get O'reilly to sign an extension?
Man, that could another giant mess after this season if he doesn't
I can't imagine they'd wanna qualify him at 6.5 mil?
That's just nuts
ESP since they didn't wanna give him the 5mil per he wanted
- jdfitz77

They will resign him once its all said in done. He can be the next Bergeron with the style of game he plays. They dont want to piss and moan about it. It has already been reported that Roy has taken a keen interest in that situation and has been going a lots of research of how it all went down

Which is why I said in 2 years..
I also didn't say definitely either
Coyle was on Minnys first line by years end
Tinordi should end up being a decent top 4 guy
Connolly has the potential to be a 30 goal scorer

Sure Hall will be great for the 60 games a year he plays
- sbroads24

I just saw your location...
That's great

That makes sense
Has Johnson been that bad for you though?
I think u guys lost the trade,
But mostly bc u included Shattenkirk who has turned out really nicely
- jdfitz77

EJ has been good, but not great. A good sound shut down type of guy, he doesnt bring much to offence, but in Saccos system he didnt even get to play the first PP unit.
Since the blues got Rattie out of that deal too, but we got Seimens out of it too. Lets see how if Seimens can bring it this training camp

They will resign him once its all said in done. He can be the next Bergeron with the style of game he plays. They dont want to piss and moan about it. It has already been reported that Roy has taken a keen interest in that situation and has been going a lots of research of how it all went down
- DDM-Coga

That makes sense
But I'd think that if you can't get him extended by the deadline, you'd have to put some serious thought into moving him
That situation was just ridiculous last year for u guys

Who u taking in the draft?
Jones or MacKinnon?
I highly doubt you trade the pick

That makes sense
But I'd think that if you can't get him extended by the deadline, you'd have to put some serious thought into moving him
That situation was just ridiculous last year for u guys

Who u taking in the draft?
Jones or MacKinnon?
I highly doubt you trade the pick
- jdfitz77

I think the safe pick is to take Jones, its the smarter choice for the long term outlook for the team. MacKinnon is going to be a star too, but taking him will just opens up way to many questions with the roster. (what do you do with Stastny and/or O'Reilly, how do we upgrade our poor D with a terrible trade and UFA Market this year)

Landy and Duchene are untouchables. Landeskog had a tough year, partially concussion issues, and the fact that Sacco refused to play him and O'Reilly together once they both got back. Their value is way too high in the Avs Organization and you wouldnt want to know what we would be demanding for that trade to go down
- DDM-Coga

I didn't know about the line or concussion issues. The would explain his 17 points.

Miller + Grigorenko/Myers+8th+prospect. IMO to get that pick it's going to take two different deals

Myers + 8 for 3. Then 3+Miller+Grigorenko for pick 1. As you can see, it will probably take a massive overpayment in both deal to try and make this work. The question for the scouting staff and Darcy is how important they feel adding Mackinnon is.
- Sabresfan-365

If we get to #3 I don't think we need to get to #1 unless MacKinnon is the only player they want to move up for.

I think Landeskog is the real deal
If they'd trade him straight up for Miller I'd do that in a heartbeat
I'd trade them either Myers or Grigorenko for him too

I like Duchesne, but I really think we are good at center
The way I see it, our centers of the future are;
Line 1- Grigorenko
Line 2- Hodgson
Line 3- Larsson
-with Girgensons, Ennis & Catenacci all playing wing in the top9
-we also have Kea, Schaller & Jacobs who should all be at least a solid 4th line center, with 3rd line potential

A trade of Miller and Grigorenko (assuming Roy wants them), for Duchesne and Landeskog would work for me...
But Miller would have to agree to an extension or they wouldn't do it
And we might even have to add more to make the deal work
- jdfitz77

Armia will probably slot in on the 1st line as well.

I didn't know about the line or concussion issues. The would explain his 17 points.
- benny948

yeah he got destroyed by Brad Stuart in game 4 of the year, got caught with his head down, and then missed I think around 10 or 12 games out with a concussion. By that time he said he was feeling being with everyone else in their conditioning and the speed of the game. Was paired with Stastny and Hejduk or David Jones for a good part of the season too, and were forced to play a checking line type of role.

You will see a big bounce back year having Downie back from injury and O'Reilly again on their regular line with Landy.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of targeting Carolina's pick at #5. At that spot the worst we get is likely Nichuskin. The idea of Nichuskin on a line with Grigorenko is intriguing to me. I think it would help to get the best out of both players. If we then got Erne at #16 we could really help Grigs confidence by drafting players he is familiar with.

yeah he got destroyed by Brad Stuart in game 4 of the year, got caught with his head down, and then missed I think around 10 or 12 games out with a concussion. By that time he said he was feeling being with everyone else in their conditioning and the speed of the game. Was paired with Stastny and Hejduk or David Jones for a good part of the season too, and were forced to play a checking line type of role.

You will see a big bounce back year having Downie back from injury and O'Reilly again on their regular line with Landy.
- DDM-Coga

Hopefully Myers bounces back just like Landy.