Random thought. If we resign Miller, wouldn't that even further make us look like the Calgary Flames?
- sbroads24

The Sabre roster is in disarray but they do not resemble that train-wreck of a franchise in any way, shape or form.

Feaster should shoot himself.

Sports are rigged lol

Boston going to win it all cuz of the marathon bombing.

Down 3»0 with 9 mins in third left agains.toronto?

9/11 patriots win superbowl

Sports are rigged lol

Boston going to win it all cuz of the marathon bombing.

Down 3»0 with 9 mins in third left agains.toronto?

9/11 patriots win superbowl
- 716buffalo

borderline offensive...

borderline offensive...
- JAT27

However..... It is a hell of a story

Agree mostly, but I think that Vanek will get traded at the draft to a team like Tampa or Carolina, allowing the Sabres to move up. Both teams have stated that they want to contend now. If you look at Calgary's prospect pool, lots of their top guys are undersized or playing in the NCAA. Most of Buffalo's top prospects are in Roch or overseas (Armia). We will definitely have a quicker rebuild than them, and it will not have much suffering. How long do you think our rebuild will take?
- benny948

I think it's possible Vanek gets moved at the draft too, but it seems to be a big order expecting that Vanek and Miller get moved at the draft. One of them will be here to start the season, and I just have a feeling it'll be Vanek.

As far how long the rebuild will take, it depends on if the guys we have pan out. I would expect that one or two of them won't, or who gets moved with Miller and/or Vanek. That will make a huge difference. I think we could be back in the thick of things in 2 years if everything works out though. Next year will be a bit painful at times but the year after I think they start contending for a playoff spot again.

Sports are rigged lol

Boston going to win it all cuz of the marathon bombing.

Down 3»0 with 9 mins in third left agains.toronto?

9/11 patriots win superbowl
- 716buffalo

I am shocked Miller did not win the Vezina, Vanek did not win the Hart and Myers did not win the Norris

can we get a recount?

I think it's possible Vanek gets moved at the draft too, but it seems to be a big order expecting that Vanek and Miller get moved at the draft. One of them will be here to start the season, and I just have a feeling it'll be Vanek.

As far how long the rebuild will take, it depends on if the guys we have pan out. I would expect that one or two of them won't, or who gets moved with Miller and/or Vanek. That will make a huge difference. I think we could be back in the thick of things in 2 years if everything works out though. Next year will be a bit painful at times but the year after I think they start contending for a playoff spot again.
- HonkFortheGoose

Agree for sure. I am thinking 7th or 6th seed in 14-15.

I am shocked Miller did not win the Vezina, Vanek did not win the Hart and Myers did not win the Norris

can we get a recount?
- navinrjohnson

I have a feeling Bobrovsky wouldn't sign a contract until the awards were announced. I think he wanted to use it as leverage to get more money. The KHL thing is another way of doing so. But I think he hasn't signed either place yet because of the Awards. I think that might be one of the most interesting stories of the offseason.

I am shocked Miller did not win the Vezina, Vanek did not win the Hart and Myers did not win the Norris

can we get a recount?
- navinrjohnson

At least Ott won the Lady Byng

Sports are rigged lol

Boston going to win it all cuz of the marathon bombing.

Down 3»0 with 9 mins in third left agains.toronto?

9/11 patriots win superbowl
- 716buffalo

By that logic a NY or Washington team would've won all the sports championships in 2001.

Closest to come to a championship was the Yankees--they lost the WS to the Diamondbacks. Then again, you didn't make this comment because you thought it made sense...

I have a feeling Bobrovsky wouldn't sign a contract until the awards were announced. I think he wanted to use it as leverage to get more money. The KHL thing is another way of doing so. But I think he hasn't signed either place yet because of the Awards. I think that might be one of the most interesting stories of the offseason.
- HonkFortheGoose

Was the smartest possible move. Doesn't cost him anything, and if he happened to win, he'd automatically get about 25%+ added on top of whatever payday he might have already received. Going to be interesting to see where he goes, cause I'm pretty sure some KHL owner'll likely make a ridiculous 12m/year offer now...

[quote=HonkFortheGoose]I think it's possible Vanek gets moved at the draft too, but it seems to be a big order expecting that Vanek and Miller get moved at the draft. One of them will be here to start the season, and I just have a feeling it'll be Vanek.

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would it be extremely negetive to say that i don't think anything will happen at the draft except they take the best player available?

i think at most Darcy uses 1 of the 2nd rounders to move up a few spots

I say this b/c i think the trade market is not going to be there until teams see what players get bought out plus the cap going down is going to affect teams that are a miller or vanek away from contending

If I'm Colorado I'm offering Ryan O'Reilly for #6 and #22. I'm willing to bet Feaster would do it. Remember they're retooling, not rebuilding.
- Ihatebrianburke

except for that deal is literally not possible

The Sabre roster is in disarray but they do not resemble that train-wreck of a franchise in any way, shape or form.

Feaster should shoot himself.
- Pairo11

Not sure why you guys are piling on Feaster, not that I agree with everything he does, but he inherited a mess from the real culprit, D Sutter. His trades have been underwhelming, but their drafting has been actually good. We have some awesome goalie prospects coming up & Ramo is basically signed. We'll see what he's got next year. We do have 3 young very good players stepping up in Brodie/Backlund/Baerschte. If you missed last WJC, 2 players looked pretty good in Gaudreau & Wotherspoon. I cant stand this talk of trading our 3 1st rounders for 1. That's just nuts. We need to trade the few active roster players that have value & try to get another top 10 pick. Then in a few years, Flames will be ranked in the top 10 in hockey futures. Since Feaster has been drafting for us, we have moved from 30th a few years ago to 20th. As for Jankowski, let it go, he was the youngest kid drafted last year & probably would be a 1st rounder this year, look at other teams who went off the board in the top 10 last year, Anaheim could have gotten their guy in the late 1st round. If teams like their guy, take him, when you are picking 21st or 22nd, you're rolling the dice anyway. Our teams are very similar but I agree you guys are way further ahead in your rebuild, so what, both teams will be relevant in 2 years.

Was the smartest possible move. Doesn't cost him anything, and if he happened to win, he'd automatically get about 25%+ added on top of whatever payday he might have already received. Going to be interesting to see where he goes, cause I'm pretty sure some KHL owner'll likely make a ridiculous 12m/year offer now...
- Dissent

Very strong sense in C-bus that Bob is very happy living/playing in Columbus and his wife loves it there too. His only motivation is to win the Stanley Cup. Dude has a chance to achieve legendary status in the city

Not sure why you guys are piling on Feaster, not that I agree with everything he does, but he inherited a mess from the real culprit, D Sutter. His trades have been underwhelming, but their drafting has been actually good. We have some awesome goalie prospects coming up & Ramo is basically signed. We'll see what he's got next year. We do have 3 young very good players stepping up in Brodie/Backlund/Baerschte. If you missed last WJC, 2 players looked pretty good in Gaudreau & Wotherspoon. I cant stand this talk of trading our 3 1st rounders for 1. That's just nuts. We need to trade the few active roster players that have value & try to get another top 10 pick. Then in a few years, Flames will be ranked in the top 10 in hockey futures. Since Feaster has been drafting for us, we have moved from 30th a few years ago to 20th. As for Jankowski, let it go, he was the youngest kid drafted last year & probably would be a 1st rounder this year, look at other teams who went off the board in the top 10 last year, Anaheim could have gotten their guy in the late 1st round. If teams like their guy, take him, when you are picking 21st or 22nd, you're rolling the dice anyway. Our teams are very similar but I agree you guys are way further ahead in your rebuild, so what, both teams will be relevant in 2 years.
- Kevin R

He should have been fired for gross incompetence just simply due to the o'reilly debacle. Could you imagine if Colorado let him walk, he would have hit waivers, columbus would have scooped him up (they were first to pick) and Calgary would have forfeited a top ten pick to a division rival

Not sure why you guys are piling on Feaster, not that I agree with everything he does, but he inherited a mess from the real culprit, D Sutter. His trades have been underwhelming, but their drafting has been actually good. We have some awesome goalie prospects coming up & Ramo is basically signed. We'll see what he's got next year. We do have 3 young very good players stepping up in Brodie/Backlund/Baerschte. If you missed last WJC, 2 players looked pretty good in Gaudreau & Wotherspoon. I cant stand this talk of trading our 3 1st rounders for 1. That's just nuts. We need to trade the few active roster players that have value & try to get another top 10 pick. Then in a few years, Flames will be ranked in the top 10 in hockey futures. Since Feaster has been drafting for us, we have moved from 30th a few years ago to 20th. As for Jankowski, let it go, he was the youngest kid drafted last year & probably would be a 1st rounder this year, look at other teams who went off the board in the top 10 last year, Anaheim could have gotten their guy in the late 1st round. If teams like their guy, take him, when you are picking 21st or 22nd, you're rolling the dice anyway. Our teams are very similar but I agree you guys are way further ahead in your rebuild, so what, both teams will be relevant in 2 years.
- Kevin R

We will see how Jankowski pans out. He is definitely a project. Do you think that the Flames are going to go off the board again with number 6?

except for that deal is literally not possible
- Meeqsb

THANK YOU. I'm literally so sick of people being like "ok uhhh how about O'reilly for X"


He can't be traded until like February or whatever it is.


But anyways, Col turned down Calg top 3 1st rounders...our head of scouting was quoted in the Buffalo News this morning as saying teams are interested in our younger players/prospects. As a COL fan, what are you realistically looking for for the #1 pick. The Sabres clearly want it/ want to move up very high in the draft.


What gets it done from your perspective?

He should have been fired for gross incompetence just simply due to the o'reilly debacle. Could you imagine if Colorado let him walk, he would have hit waivers, columbus would have scooped him up (they were first to pick) and Calgary would have forfeited a top ten pick to a division rival
- jacketsfan0649

Feaster is one of the Worst GM's I have ever seen. Not only is he incompetent and bad at his job, the day after he blew up his team by trading away Iggy and everyone else he help a press conference and said "We are not rebuilding". Even TSN was laughing at him.

THANK YOU. I'm literally so sick of people being like "ok uhhh how about O'reilly for X"


He can't be traded until like February or whatever it is.


But anyways, Col turned down Calg top 3 1st rounders...our head of scouting was quoted in the Buffalo News this morning as saying teams are interested in our younger players/prospects. As a COL fan, what are you realistically looking for for the #1 pick. The Sabres clearly want it/ want to move up very high in the draft.


What gets it done from your perspective?
- HAMgerber

Miller + Grigorenko/Myers+8th+prospect. IMO to get that pick it's going to take two different deals

Myers + 8 for 3. Then 3+Miller+Grigorenko for pick 1. As you can see, it will probably take a massive overpayment in both deal to try and make this work. The question for the scouting staff and Darcy is how important they feel adding Mackinnon is.

First impression after hearing the Avs turned down three 1st round picks from Calgary for the #1 overall... "Whoa, I guess the Sabres aren't going to get that pick afterall."

Then reasoning sinks in... why wouldn't the Avs take 3 first round picks? Well, because those picks are great for a team willing to take their time rebuilding. As every single article I've read states, the only reason the Avs will consider trading that top pick is because they don't want to wait to rebuild. So, why wait on 3 possible NHLers when they can simply choose a franchise player 1st overall? Now, from Buffalo's perspective this is actually good news! It means the Avs want players, not picks, for the #1 overall selection.

If the Sabres are to acquire the top pick in this draft... they're likely going to have to part with Miller and take back Stastny's deal along with the top pick. The Avs have to shed some salary to absorb Miller's deal. They will also need to either include Semyon Varlamov in the same deal or move him in a separate trade. Giguere is a disciple of their goalie coach and future goalie coach potential himself. If the Sabres take back Varlamov, they'll need to include a D-Man for sure (maybe Sekera, but others - even Myers - could be in play). Let's take that part out of the equation for now. Patrick Roy would likely value Grigorenko over any first rounder that the Sabres or Flames or whomever could offer because he knows exactly how to use him best and what he's truly capable of doing in this league. So the deal has to start there (Miller + Grigorenko). I can see Myers included in this deal, IF the Sabres retain their #8 pick (which could then be used on Nurse, Ristolainen or Zadorov). If I'm Buffalo, I make that deal. If I'm Colorado, I'm making that deal too... and ask for the #16 pick, as well.

Essentially, for moving the top pick in the draft... the Avs shed the contract of the underperforming Stastny and by doing so they allow Duchene to become the clear cut #1 Center and create a spot for Grigorenko as their #2 or #3, depending on where Roy sees O'Reilly fitting into his lineup. They secure the top goalie available (Miller) who is head and shoulders above their current options. Gain a defenseman (Myers) with significant upside, but has disappointed on an equivalent level to Stastny the past 2 years. Grigorenko and the #16 pick. Buffalo gets their franchise cornerstone (MacKinnon), another young centerman in Stastny (albeit with only 1 year remaining on his current deal), and possibly another option at goaltender next year (Varlamov). That is a trade that meets both team's goals.

THANK YOU. I'm literally so sick of people being like "ok uhhh how about O'reilly for X"


He can't be traded until like February or whatever it is.


But anyways, Col turned down Calg top 3 1st rounders...our head of scouting was quoted in the Buffalo News this morning as saying teams are interested in our younger players/prospects. As a COL fan, what are you realistically looking for for the #1 pick. The Sabres clearly want it/ want to move up very high in the draft.


What gets it done from your perspective?
- HAMgerber

My most honest answer would have to be that I don't want to move it. Giving up that kind of a talent you could get with either Jones or Mckinnon would just be too difficult for me to justify.

Even if I said I would ask for an extreme overpayment of both of your firsts and Myers, I still am not sure if I could.

Realistically I think the only way it would happen would be if you could get the #2 or #3 overall and add something to that.

First impression after hearing the Avs turned down three 1st round picks from Calgary for the #1 overall... "Whoa, I guess the Sabres aren't going to get that pick afterall."

Then reasoning sinks in... why wouldn't the Avs take 3 first round picks? Well, because those picks are great for a team willing to take their time rebuilding. As every single article I've read states, the only reason the Avs will consider trading that top pick is because they don't want to wait to rebuild. So, why wait on 3 possible NHLers when they can simply choose a franchise player 1st overall? Now, from Buffalo's perspective this is actually good news! It means the Avs want players, not picks, for the #1 overall selection.

If the Sabres are to acquire the top pick in this draft... they're likely going to have to part with Miller and take back Stastny's deal along with the top pick. The Avs have to shed some salary to absorb Miller's deal. They will also need to either include Semyon Varlamov in the same deal or move him in a separate trade. Giguere is a disciple of their goalie coach and future goalie coach potential himself. If the Sabres take back Varlamov, they'll need to include a D-Man for sure (maybe Sekera, but others - even Myers - could be in play). Let's take that part out of the equation for now. Patrick Roy would likely value Grigorenko over any first rounder that the Sabres or Flames or whomever could offer because he knows exactly how to use him best and what he's truly capable of doing in this league. So the deal has to start there (Miller + Grigorenko). I can see Myers included in this deal, IF the Sabres retain their #8 pick (which could then be used on Nurse, Ristolainen or Zadorov). If I'm Buffalo, I make that deal. If I'm Colorado, I'm making that deal too... and ask for the #16 pick, as well.

Essentially, for moving the top pick in the draft... the Avs shed the contract of the underperforming Stastny and by doing so they allow Duchene to become the clear cut #1 Center and create a spot for Grigorenko as their #2 or #3, depending on where Roy sees O'Reilly fitting into his lineup. They secure the top goalie available (Miller) who is head and shoulders above their current options. Gain a defenseman (Myers) with significant upside, but has disappointed on an equivalent level to Stastny the past 2 years. Grigorenko and the #16 pick. Buffalo gets their franchise cornerstone (MacKinnon), another young centerman in Stastny (albeit with only 1 year remaining on his current deal), and possibly another option at goaltender next year (Varlamov). That is a trade that meets both team's goals.
- djc1877

Does it really have to be that complicated of a deal? I feel like Buf only wants to trade for 1.

First impression after hearing the Avs turned down three 1st round picks from Calgary for the #1 overall... "Whoa, I guess the Sabres aren't going to get that pick afterall."

Then reasoning sinks in... why wouldn't the Avs take 3 first round picks? Well, because those picks are great for a team willing to take their time rebuilding. As every single article I've read states, the only reason the Avs will consider trading that top pick is because they don't want to wait to rebuild. So, why wait on 3 possible NHLers when they can simply choose a franchise player 1st overall? Now, from Buffalo's perspective this is actually good news! It means the Avs want players, not picks, for the #1 overall selection.

If the Sabres are to acquire the top pick in this draft... they're likely going to have to part with Miller and take back Stastny's deal along with the top pick. The Avs have to shed some salary to absorb Miller's deal. They will also need to either include Semyon Varlamov in the same deal or move him in a separate trade. Giguere is a disciple of their goalie coach and future goalie coach potential himself. If the Sabres take back Varlamov, they'll need to include a D-Man for sure (maybe Sekera, but others - even Myers - could be in play). Let's take that part out of the equation for now. Patrick Roy would likely value Grigorenko over any first rounder that the Sabres or Flames or whomever could offer because he knows exactly how to use him best and what he's truly capable of doing in this league. So the deal has to start there (Miller + Grigorenko). I can see Myers included in this deal, IF the Sabres retain their #8 pick (which could then be used on Nurse, Ristolainen or Zadorov). If I'm Buffalo, I make that deal. If I'm Colorado, I'm making that deal too... and ask for the #16 pick, as well.

Essentially, for moving the top pick in the draft... the Avs shed the contract of the underperforming Stastny and by doing so they allow Duchene to become the clear cut #1 Center and create a spot for Grigorenko as their #2 or #3, depending on where Roy sees O'Reilly fitting into his lineup. They secure the top goalie available (Miller) who is head and shoulders above their current options. Gain a defenseman (Myers) with significant upside, but has disappointed on an equivalent level to Stastny the past 2 years. Grigorenko and the #16 pick. Buffalo gets their franchise cornerstone (MacKinnon), another young centerman in Stastny (albeit with only 1 year remaining on his current deal), and possibly another option at goaltender next year (Varlamov). That is a trade that meets both team's goals.
- djc1877

The avs said no to Calgary's offer because 2 of their firsts are in the 20's with one being 28 which don't have nearly as much value as people think and isn't even close to enough to to leave the top 3.

Plus Colorado HATE's Calgary.

Avs may say they don't want to wait for a rebuild, however that doesn't mean they are going to try and rush anything foolishly (like trading for Miller. Great goalie, too old.)

Also Stastny is a good player and his contract is not a problem for the Avs at all, he has a good amount of value, if he didn't he would have been on the leafs a very long time ago.

All of that plus you get a solid young goalie and Varly. Lmao you crazy