Miller for Fleury and Letang.
Keep Vanek.
- FLflames34

Hmmm...
I'd certainly consider it,
But of course, I don't want Fleury anymore than Pitt does

Gagner+pacioretty
- TheNugeIsHuge

Then he needs to be paired with McNabb, not Ehrhoff
And we need to find a physical, shutdown type to play with Ehrhoff...
My pick would a be fellow Fin...
I really like Ristolainen
I've seen him going as high as #7 though, and as low as in the 20s, in all the mock drafts I've seen...
My hope is tht he falls to 16
If that happens I will be unbelievably ecstatic

And looking into how our defense shapes up for the future...
It also makes either McCabe or Pysyk expendable IMO
They are very much the same type of player, and it would make sense to pair one of them with a more physical type

OR...
(this is what I'd do)
Keep McNabb & Pysyk together as our 2nd pair
And that makes Myers tradable
Either #7 from Edmonton or #5 from Carolina sounds about right for him
- jdfitz77

Well said. Agreed.

Gagner+pacioretty
- TheNugeIsHuge

Ummmm....
I don't like Kane all that much,
But he's better than those two combined By a lot

they can trade letang to any team and get a big return in prospects and/or picks

edit: the cap will most likely go up following next year too so depending how much the pens maybe able to keep him
- dmarsden2988

I think Miller is a big return, better than prospects (which are always questions, and something Pitt does not have a deficiency in currently).
And, they have $8mm to re-sign:
-Iginla (which I think they will for 2 yr/6mm total)
-Dupuis (getting a raise....maybe like 3.5 per)
-Murray (3 mil per)
The trade gives them a bit of cap space, and also, even if the cap goes up in 2014 they need to re-sign Despres first....then Kunitz, and potentially Miller. I don't see them keeping Letang either way. This is the best answer for winning next yr.

Well said. Agreed.
- rmiethaner

Let's say Myers can get us #5...
Who do we target?

Barkov is my fav guy in the whole draft,
But I also like how we look at Center
I think Grigorenko, Hodgson & Larsson are a good top3

So do we go for Nichuskin to play w Grigorenko?
That might seem the way to go, but I have concerns w him... I think he's a "boom or bust" kinda guy
I really like Lindholm, but he is also a center
Do we go w Nurse at 5 and Ristolainen at 8?
That gives us the freedom to move Ehrhoff,
Maybe to Edmonton for #7? I could see the Isles quite interested as well for #15

And this is all without what we could get by trading Miller & Vanek

There are so many ways Darcy can go with this Draft...
I'm really psyched to see what we do

miller is the better goalie, but not by a huge margin, but he is also getting older and on a 1yr deal so unless he is extended then i doubt he would get a big return, while fleury has sucked lately in the playoffs (big time) he still was very good in both finals and the run up to the finals and since he is still young its possible he can get back to those numbers, miller while an above average (not elite) goalie hasnt shown lately what he can do in the playoffs , but his little temper tantrums may fit in nicely with the pens
- dmarsden2988

Hes definitely better than Fleury+ 3rd. Plus, Fleury isn't even that young, he is 28 and wont develop further. Miller is a proven playoff netminder from what we gave seen. Obviously, his numbers have declined since his Vezina. I think that is mainly due to the team in front of him.

Let's say Myers can get us #5...
Who do we target?

Barkov is my fav guy in the whole draft,
But I also like how we look at Center
I think Grigorenko, Hodgson & Larsson are a good top3

So do we go for Nichuskin to play w Grigorenko?
That might seem the way to go, but I have concerns w him... I think he's a "boom or bust" kinda guy
I really like Lindholm, but he is also a center
Do we go w Nurse at 5 and Ristolainen at 8?
That gives us the freedom to move Ehrhoff,
Maybe to Edmonton for #7? I could see the Isles quite interested as well for #15

And this is all without what we could get by trading Miller & Vanek

There are so many ways Darcy can go with this Draft...
I'm really psyched to see what we do
- jdfitz77

Barkov will be gone by 5, if the 3/4 teams know what is good for them. Nichushkin is the answer. He happens to be my favorite of the entire draft anyway. Hoping Calgary gets the 5 pick before you all do, so please don't. Thanks.

I think Miller is a big return, better than prospects (which are always questions, and something Pitt does not have a deficiency in currently).
And, they have $8mm to re-sign:
-Iginla (which I think they will for 2 yr/6mm total)
-Dupuis (getting a raise....maybe like 3.5 per)
-Murray (3 mil per)
The trade gives them a bit of cap space, and also, even if the cap goes up in 2014 they need to re-sign Despres first....then Kunitz, and potentially Miller. I don't see them keeping Letang either way. This is the best answer for winning next yr.
- FLflames34

fleury is signed through the following year for less than what miller is making, and i dont think miller is going to want to take a big enough pay cut

i dont think miller is going to get a massive return being on his last year with a pretty high cap hit and with teams that would want him for a run having other issues (cap or goalie situation is fixed)

chicago wouldnt have the space if they dont feel crawford can get it done if they lose in the finals

ducks have fasth and hiller +another top goalie prospect
av's made a goalie trade where they gave up alot for a young goalie so i dont see them doing that again soon
oilers prob wont be on his list
wild cap problems and they will prob want to try to sign backstrom
isles is a possibility but would miller approve?
pens on the fence
sharks have niemi
blues have 3 goalies
bolts will keep who they have
caps is a possibility

include that with bernier who is going to be traded most likely

while miller is better than fleury he wont get a kings ransom from the pens, def no chance at letand

Let's say Myers can get us #5...
Who do we target?

Barkov is my fav guy in the whole draft,
But I also like how we look at Center
I think Grigorenko, Hodgson & Larsson are a good top3

So do we go for Nichuskin to play w Grigorenko?
That might seem the way to go, but I have concerns w him... I think he's a "boom or bust" kinda guy
I really like Lindholm, but he is also a center
Do we go w Nurse at 5 and Ristolainen at 8?
That gives us the freedom to move Ehrhoff,
Maybe to Edmonton for #7? I could see the Isles quite interested as well for #15
And this is all without what we could get by trading Miller & Vanek

There are so many ways Darcy can go with this Draft...
I'm really psyched to see what we do
- jdfitz77

How about Myers for 15 and Strome. That sounds fair to me.

what up

I think Miller is a big return, better than prospects (which are always questions, and something Pitt does not have a deficiency in currently).
And, they have $8mm to re-sign:
-Iginla (which I think they will for 2 yr/6mm total)
-Dupuis (getting a raise....maybe like 3.5 per)
-Murray (3 mil per)
The trade gives them a bit of cap space, and also, even if the cap goes up in 2014 they need to re-sign Despres first....then Kunitz, and potentially Miller. I don't see them keeping Letang either way. This is the best answer for winning next yr.
- FLflames34

I'm hoping for a Miller trade to Philly (we keep half his salary),
For something like Simmonds + #11
I'd also be willing to take Bryzgalov off their hands, but then I'd want something more from them too
They might also want something back to take Simmonds place in the line-up

I'd propose...
To Buffalo-
Simmonds, #11, Bryzgalov (we buy out), 2014 1st
To Philly-
Miller, either Flynn or Tropp, 2014 2nd

so what are we talking about today ?

Ehrhoff , 2nd for the 5th idk ,lol

Hes definitely better than Fleury+ 3rd. Plus, Fleury isn't even that young, he is 28 and wont develop further. Miller is a proven playoff netminder from what we gave seen. Obviously, his numbers have declined since his Vezina. I think that is mainly due to the team in front of him.
- benny948

skillwise yes, add in other aspects such as contract probably close

4 trips to the playoffs, getting out of the 1st round isnt really proven when he has been in the NHL for 8 full seasons as a starter when many of those times its not like the sabres were a bad team

fleury has been to the finals twice and one once, and thats a positive when it comes to trade value

skillwise miller is better

Barkov will be gone by 5, if the 3/4 teams know what is good for them. Nichushkin is the answer. He happens to be my favorite of the entire draft anyway. Hoping Calgary gets the 5 pick before you all do, so please don't. Thanks.
- FLflames34

If Tampa takes Nichuskin 3rd (possible),
Then it's 50/50 who the Preds take with Drouin is still there
Without any kind of move,
I'm hoping Lindholm falls to 8, and Ristolainen falls to 16...
High hopes
But I don't think it'll come down to that

I think we def trade Miller and Vanek
They each get us a 1st + +
That'll get us four nice players to help out the rebuild

If Tampa takes Nichuskin 3rd (possible),
Then it's 50/50 who the Preds take with Drouin is still there
Without any kind of move,
I'm hoping Lindholm falls to 8, and Ristolainen falls to 16...
High hopes
But I don't think it'll come down to that

I think we def trade Miller and Vanek
They each get us a 1st + +
That'll get us four nice players to help out the rebuild
- jdfitz77

Would you trade Miller the Islanders? Or trading a to conference and a playoff contending rival not in your best interest?

Ehrhoff , 2nd for the 5th idk ,lol
- gerbe75pts

Yes! Then...
Myers for 7 +
Miller for 11 +
Vanek for 14 & 19

Tell me your head wouldn't explode with 6 of the top 19 picks in this draft
Just for fun...
Fill in your picks

fleury is signed through the following year for less than what miller is making, and i dont think miller is going to want to take a big enough pay cut

i dont think miller is going to get a massive return being on his last year with a pretty high cap hit and with teams that would want him for a run having other issues (cap or goalie situation is fixed)

chicago wouldnt have the space if they dont feel crawford can get it done if they lose in the finals

ducks have fasth and hiller +another top goalie prospect
av's made a goalie trade where they gave up alot for a young goalie so i dont see them doing that again soon
oilers prob wont be on his list
wild cap problems and they will prob want to try to sign backstrom
isles is a possibility but would miller approve?
pens on the fence
sharks have niemi
blues have 3 goalies
bolts will keep who they have
caps is a possibility

include that with bernier who is going to be traded most likely

while miller is better than fleury he wont get a kings ransom from the pens, def no chance at letand
- dmarsden2988

You left out Calgary. If Ramo flounders next yr, I could see Feaster trying to pry Miller and re-sign him until Brossoit develops. He and Regeir seem to be on good terms.
I see Miller going to Pitt though. Just do. And the only way he does is if Fleury + come back. And since there is no 1st rounder, it would have to be either Letang or Maataa. I say Letang due to Buff's cap space.

Appreciate what you are saying, but I think Miller will re-sign for a similar cap number to current if they go on another run. Seems like a guy that wants to be on a winner versus cashing in on another rebuild.

Would you trade Miller the Islanders?
- DDM-Coga

Sure, for the right price...
If I'd trade him to Philly, I'd trade him anywhere...
Don't get me wrong,
I think Miller is awesome
And he'll win a cup wherever he moves on to
But if we are gonna truly rebuild,
Moving him and Vanek is the way to go

Yes! Then...
Myers for 7 +
Miller for 11 +
Vanek for 14 & 19

Tell me your head wouldn't explode with 6 of the top 19 picks in this draft
Just for fun...
Fill in your picks
- jdfitz77

oh my ,lol fitz

Sure, for the right price...
If I'd trade him to Philly, I'd trade him anywhere...
Don't get me wrong,
I think Miller is awesome
And he'll win a cup wherever he moves on to
But if we are gonna truly rebuild,
Moving him and Vanek is the way to go
- jdfitz77

I dont think Philly is an option, if they buy out Bryz, I think they roll the dice with Mason and just let what he can do

Would you trade Miller the Islanders? Or trading a to conference and a playoff contending rival not in your best interest?
- DDM-Coga

Miller could get the 15th + DP's buyout. Not a bad idea.
I don't think Vanek gets a 1st + + though. UFA and high number and all that.

How about Myers for 15 and Strome. That sounds fair to me.
- benny948

Sure
Not psyched about Strome though, so Id try & move him for a pick between 4-6

If I'm adding a Center to the group we already have,
I want either Barkov or Lindholm
Otherwise, we need help on defense & at the wing more IMO

Miller could get the 15th + DP's buyout. Not a bad idea.
I don't think Vanek gets a 1st + + though. UFA and high number and all that.
- FLflames34

I'm certain we'd take on half of Miller's and Vanek's cap hit to make them more attractive and get teams up against the cap involved
It'll get us a much better return