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Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
I can't believe the Draft is in 30 days, these playoffs just flew by for me.
- Tsyolin


15 days
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
T O T A L L Y disagree. Miller would be awesome, wow. Dubnyk is not a #1 'tender and a new one is HIGH on the wish list.
- JLO961


So in terms of potential deals, what were you thinking?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
I can't believe the Draft is in 30 days, these playoffs just flew by for me.
- Tsyolin


The draft is in 15 days champ
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:03 PM ET
15 days
- Djtyczy


You see, I knew that and for some reason I still typed in the wrong amount.... probably because it's on the 30th. I need to nap when I get off work.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
not RNH

Stamkos /JT

- gerbe75pts


I do not fault anyone whatsoever for underestimating RNH...all I say is...watch him more. His subtle skills are world class.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
T O T A L L Y disagree. Miller would be awesome, wow. Dubnyk is not a #1 'tender and a new one is HIGH on the wish list.
- JLO961

on YOURS. not managements

dubnyk gets paid half as much as miller and had better numbers behind a much worse defence.

u really think we'd use our best assets on acquiring a 7 million miller that could bolt in 1 year over a top pairing dman?? that would be terrible asset management
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
Alright sabres fan's, were not winning the cup next year. We need to trade miller and vanek in separate deals for top 15 picks and top prospects or both of them to get drouin or barkov.

At 8, we should hope for nichuschkin, lindholm, monohan, or shinikurak.

Trade miller and our 2nd second to Phoenix for 12th and gromley. Draft Zadorov, shinkurak, ristolinian, or wennberg.

Trade vanek and our 1st second to winnepig (they were all over him at the deadline) for 13th and trouba or schiefiele. Draft ristolinian, domi, pulock, or horvat.

At 16th, draft fuclae, morin, erne, or martha.


THIS IS A DREAM DRAFT IF DARCY COMMITS 100% TO THE REBUILD.

SUCK THE NEXT 2 YEARS, GET EXBLAD AND MCDAVID. (At this point I will probably wake up from my dream.)

- Djtyczy


I like the way you think
This is a really deep 1st round...
We should be acquiring as many 1sts as possible,
Not packaging assets to get ONE player

I know a lot of ppl are desperate for a superstar, but consider this...

Boston is doing pretty good without a "superstar" that was drafted high... Yes, Seguin was picked 2nd, but he isn't why they are winning... Task was late 1st, and Chara, Krejci, Lucic, Marchand, seidenberg & Bergereon were all 2nd rounders or lower!

But even if u wanna say Boston is the exception and we do NEED a superstar to build around...
Grigorenko shouldve been a top3 pick, we got very lucky, and he will be very good... Plus, We trade Miller and Vanek & we are prob picking top3 next year, and quite possibly #1... And prob picking very high again the next season too

Also, this draft is very deep... The guy we get at 8 would be a top5 pick most years, and #16 might go tht high most years as well, he'd at least be top10

I know it seems bleak right now,
But we are actually in really good shape for a "rebuild"
We are already the youngest team in the league
And trading Miller & Vanek will get us even younger, and add more quality prospects to a young group that already has quite a bit of talent
And again, the next two seasons are gonna be rough, so we can expect to be picking very high in the 1st and add a few more very talented pieces to the puzzle

At least that's how I see it
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:08 PM ET
So in terms of potential deals, what were you thinking?
- Tsyolin


I don't claim to know what scouts and GMs are valuing players and picks these days, I was just voicing my opinion that I would love to see Ryan Miller in an Oiler net. I would overpay for him, put it that way. If the other poster thinks he doesn't want Miller because he already has Dubnyk ("better numbers, worse defense etc. etc.") than just trade Dubnyk straight up! lmao See my point? that's a joke, Dubnyk straight up for Miller. Miller is hands down better!
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:08 PM ET
Good, we'll suck long enough to have a shot at him too.
- GilPerreault11


Thats what im saying, MacKinnon is not worth 4 too prospects. miller will get us either 7th edmonton, 12th phoenix, or 15 islanders. Those are all top prospects in this draft. 8th is a top prospect, grigs and pysyk are top prospects.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 15 @ 3:10 PM ET
I like the way you think
This is a really deep 1st round...
We should be acquiring as many 1sts as possible,
Not packaging assets to get ONE player

I know a lot of ppl are desperate for a superstar, but consider this...

Boston is doing pretty good without a "superstar" that was drafted high... Yes, Seguin was picked 2nd, but he isn't why they are winning... Task was late 1st, and Chara, Krejci, Lucic, Marchand, seidenberg & Bergereon were all 2nd rounders or lower!

But even if u wanna say Boston is the exception and we do NEED a superstar to build around...
Grigorenko shouldve been a top3 pick, we got very lucky, and he will be very good... Plus, We trade Miller and Vanek & we are prob picking top3 next year, and quite possibly #1... And prob picking very high again the next season too

Also, this draft is very deep... The guy we get at 8 would be a top5 pick most years, and #16 might go tht high most years as well, he'd at least be top10

I know it seems bleak right now,
But we are actually in really good shape for a "rebuild"
We are already the youngest team in the league
And trading Miller & Vanek will get us even younger, and add more quality prospects to a young group that already has quite a bit of talent
And again, the next two seasons are gonna be rough, so we can expect to be picking very high in the 1st and add a few more very talented pieces to the puzzle

At least that's how I see it

- jdfitz77




Source?

(Just kidding)

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 15 @ 3:10 PM ET
I do not fault anyone whatsoever for underestimating RNH...all I say is...watch him more. His subtle skills are world class.
- JLO961


RNH is going to be good i would say 90pt player someday

crosby , stamkos , JT are in a deffrent class
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:10 PM ET
on YOURS. not managements

dubnyk gets paid half as much as miller and had better numbers behind a much worse defence.

u really think we'd use our best assets on acquiring a 7 million miller that could bolt in 1 year over a top pairing dman?? that would be terrible asset management

- hugefemale dog77


fair enough. I'd just like Dubnyk to stop giving up that one soft goal each game. Other than that he's okay, but that's pretty much the essence of a #1 goalie that instills confidence in the D. Dubey doesn't do that.
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:11 PM ET
I do not fault anyone whatsoever for underestimating RNH...all I say is...watch him more. His subtle skills are world class.
- JLO961


Really? 4 goals 20 assists in 40 games. Hodgson even had 34 points.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
RNH is going to be good i would say 90pt player someday

crosby , stamkos , JT are in a deffrent class

- gerbe75pts


I think RNH has MAJOR potential and could possible flirt with that class, but I agree with you.

Also, unless Crosby is hurt, he dropped several notches on my "impressed" list. "Leaders lead"....he disappeared.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
I don't claim to know what scouts and GMs are valuing players and picks these days, I was just voicing my opinion that I would love to see Ryan Miller in an Oiler net. I would overpay for him, put it that way. If the other poster thinks he doesn't want Miller because he already has Dubnyk ("better numbers, worse defense etc. etc.") than just trade Dubnyk straight up! lmao See my point? that's a joke, Dubnyk straight up for Miller. Miller is hands down better!
- JLO961

its not about that.
you're not thinking analytically about what we'd have to give up when we already have one and when we need other things more.
the loss of assets in relation to the gain in team strength just isn't enough

doesn't matter who u think is better.
its about asset management.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
Really? 4 goals 20 assists in 40 games. Hodgson even had 34 points.
- Djtyczy


Yeah....REALLY. What are you trying to prove with an idiotic post like that? Would you trade RNH straight up for Hodgson? Reach down and grab the back of your hair and pull your head out of your......ace.

That's just a negative trolling comment. Who asked you?
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:14 PM ET
I like the way you think
This is a really deep 1st round...
We should be acquiring as many 1sts as possible,
Not packaging assets to get ONE player

I know a lot of ppl are desperate for a superstar, but consider this...

Boston is doing pretty good without a "superstar" that was drafted high... Yes, Seguin was picked 2nd, but he isn't why they are winning... Task was late 1st, and Chara, Krejci, Lucic, Marchand, seidenberg & Bergereon were all 2nd rounders or lower!

But even if u wanna say Boston is the exception and we do NEED a superstar to build around...
Grigorenko shouldve been a top3 pick, we got very lucky, and he will be very good... Plus, We trade Miller and Vanek & we are prob picking top3 next year, and quite
possibly #1... And prob picking very high again the next season too

Also, this draft is very deep... The guy we get at 8 would be a top5 pick most years, and #16 might go tht high most years as well, he'd at least be top10

I know it seems bleak right now,
But we are actually in really good shape for a "rebuild"
We are already the youngest team in the league
And trading Miller & Vanek will get us even younger, and add more quality prospects to a young group that already has quite a bit of talent
And again, the next two seasons are gonna be rough, so we can expect to be picking very high in the 1st and add a few more very talented pieces to the puzzle

At least that's how I see it

- jdfitz77


Same here, this draft is a deep as 2003. Stockpile top prospects this year (we should be able to get 4), suck next year, get ekblad. Suck the next year, win the lottery and get mcdavid. rebuild would only be 2-3 years[/img]
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Mcdavid will be MUCH better then MacKinnon. Craig button already said if Mcdavid was eligible this year, he would go #1
- Djtyczy

Not saying anything about McDavid, but Button is a stupid human.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
its not about that.
you're not thinking analytically about what we'd have to give up when we already have one and when we need other things more.

doesn't matter who u think is better.
its about asset management.

- hugefemale dog77


yeah, I agree, the price has to be right (or somehow less). I just was saying that I'd love to have a solid #1. We'll find him. I hope it's Dubnyk, I just don't see it at this point.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Source?

(Just kidding)

- Powerslave


Hahahaha...
To answer your question from the last blog...


The deal, on paper, by itself, is a good hockey trade.

But why in the world would LA want Ott or Ennis over Brown? Would you? I wouldn't. Not to mention giving up their insurance policy should Quick get hurt.

It doesn't make any sense.
- Powerslave



Bc Brown is due a HUGE raise after this season, and they already have a bunch of big contracts they are locked into...
Quick, Doughty, Richards, Carter & Kopitar

Ott, is similar to Brown in style (w/out the scoring), but much cheaper
What they lose in scoring, they make up w by getting Ennis
They can't afford to pay Bernier either, he's getting traded
So they get back a good prospect in Makarov, that can back up Quick in a year or two and be fairly cheap for quite a while... They'd just need to sign a cheap vet for a year or two
And the 16th is valuable in a deep draft in which they traded away their 1st rounder

Makes sense to me... For both sides...
Does this clarify things?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 15 @ 3:15 PM ET
Same here, this draft is a deep as 2003. Stockpile top prospects this year (we should be able to get 4), suck next year, get ekblad. Suck the next year, win the lottery and get mcdavid. rebuild would only be 2-3 years
- Djtyczy[/img]



"if" only it was that easy
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
I think RNH has MAJOR potential and could possible flirt with that class, but I agree with you.

Also, unless Crosby is hurt, he dropped several notches on my "impressed" list. "Leaders lead"....he disappeared.

- JLO961

or boston is just awesome
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
Would you rather coach a veteran team (complete with excellent forwards, D, and goalies) that is on the cusp of winning 2-4 round in the playoffs next season, or, a team of talented youngsters who's team hasn't made the playoffs for the past five seasons?

Are they really? Great regular season in the weakest division in the league, but they have been terrible in the lat 2 playoffs. What is different next year,aside from the coach?
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:16 PM ET
Yeah....REALLY. What are you trying to prove with an idiotic post like that? Would you trade RNH straight up for Hodgson? Reach down and grab the back of your hair and pull your head out of your......ace.

That's just a negative trolling comment. Who asked you?

- JLO961


No i wouldnt lol, but i wouldnt trade JT or stamkos straight up for RNH, not even RNH and 7th. He will be good, but not a top 3 center in the league.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:17 PM ET
RNH is going to be good i would say 90pt player someday

crosby , stamkos , JT are in a deffrent class

- gerbe75pts

id be ok with him being a step behind those very elite players.
90 pts!! Ill take it.

Tavares is amazing and the hart winner imo. but I think some over estimate his points abit.
hall has a better ppg in both career and this year than he does. but somehow one is a true superstar and the other gets mixed reviews. strange how perception works sometimes
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