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OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
Hello Oiler fans.

Would you trade this year's 7th overall pick, Paajarvi, Omark and Dubnyk to Montreal for Price and Markov?

- therealagent


Markov is too injury prone to be worth much. Granted Omark is worth even less.

Price has not had much better stats than Dubnyk. It is the full team in front of Price that gets him his wins.

So, no, this is too much an overpayment on the Oil end.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
I like Price a lot. I've met him and he's a great guy. But he's not worth twice Duby's value. Not convinced he'd perform better than Duby in front of the oilers defense.
- Iggysbff


Let me pick up that name you just dropped...
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
Of course you wood, that's why the Oilers will never attain anything of value because you seem to think you can give up poop to get stars.

Thank Christ you're not the GM!!

- newmy


Jesus guy...stop. You say you only want to come in and have conversation? Then just come in and have a conversation. Don't pop in and drop a troll comment and then get mad when people call you out...then ride a handful of pages fighting with them.

Have a convo or GtFO.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
Why do you have to be an idiot -- and make yourself look like one -- just to piss us off, I really don't understand. I can't believe you actually think you are funny dude...
- Oilers4Life14



You're the idiot, you continue to stir it up by commenting like a 2yr old towards me, so have a look in the mirror - tough guy!!
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
Jonesy works his ass off every single shift.
- Oilers4Life14


and he does it terribly
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
Try me bud.
- Oilers4Life14



Ok tough guy - keep up the comments, they're hilarious.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
I agree. RNH is small but don't forget this time last year we were upset he didn't get rookie of the year because he had the same points and missed 20 games.

Why get rid of Eberle though? Who are we trying to get that we need to trade a 23 year old with his talent? He has already shown he is good for signing long term reasonable contracts. That whole line and Yak could be our Sedins. Or if we are going to trade him, don't do it coming off a losing year where he played injured.

I do see some merit in putting Duchene and him together though. I wonder if they saw the same at the world cup. Eberle is a go to guy with a big wrist shot but what is he worth to Colorado? Number 1 overall + a player. Maybe Lands, or Varlamov and a prospect/pick (Rumours are they are shopping for an upgrade), Maybe statsny?(If we could extend him at a reasonable price after next year.

Many people saw what he could do and maybe the offers are too good. EVERY player has a price. Eberle's might be the first pick and Lands. There are numerous offers that work for him but I don't see the Oilers ever getting their asking price on the young guys.

Klefbom's asking price, maybe. Would you trade him for a top 3 this year? All seem NHL ready. They are going to be Jones, Drouin, Mackinnon or Nich in some order. I think we could find a spot for any of those on or roster next year. Everyone has a price. There are no untouchables, there are just people other teams aren't willing to pay our asking price for.

- bsteinley


I think you value EDM prospects/players like Clouts does
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
Jesus guy...stop. You say you only want to come in and have conversation? Then just come in and have a conversation. Don't pop in and drop a troll comment and then get mad when people call you out...then ride a handful of pages fighting with them.

Have a convo or GtFO.

- OilHorse



I was having a converstion, if you look back thru the threads until Oil4life started to spew garbage. Before you attack me, have a look back to where it started. You want to attack me, i'll fire back.

Funny how I can have good conversation with other guys on this blog(Morris, NugeisHuge etc) but some guys not. So again, look back to when this thread started & find out who started the garbage talk.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:27 AM ET
I was having a converstion, if you look back thru the threads until Oil4life started to spew garbage. Before you attack me, have a look back to where it started. You want to attack me, i'll fire back.

Funny how I can have good conversation with other guys on this blog(Morris, NugeisHuge etc) but some guys not. So again, look back to when this thread started & find out who started the garbage talk.

- newmy


Don't act innocent. Your first comment was the whole Klefbom == Norris comment.

You were trolling.

If you had said Calder instead it at least comes off as a more innocent and honest question...tho' reputation preceeds...and your rep is as a shit disturber and a troll.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:28 AM ET
and he does it terribly
- TheNugeIsHuge


I don't think this is a fair statement. He is not terrible.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:30 AM ET
A signed Letang for Eberle

This one never gets old.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 10:30 AM ET
Don't act innocent. Your first comment was the whole Klefbom == Norris comment.

You were trolling.

If you had said Calder instead it at least comes off as a more innocent and honest question...tho' reputation preceeds...and your rep is as a shit disturber and a troll.

- OilHorse



That comment is about having fun, not cutting down the Oilers - you need to grow up because obviously if that offends you then I think you need help.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Jun 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
That comment is about having fun, not cutting down the Oilers - you need to grow up because obviously if that offends you then I think you need help.
- newmy


It doesnt offend me, I am explaining to you why you get the reactions you do. But your reply to me shows your true colours...I have not insulted you but you think you need to tell me to grow up.

I don't give a fug what you say personally because I don't generally respond to your idiocy...but don't act like you are an innocent here, you get what you deserve from the posters in Oiler threads until you come in and ONLY initiate hockey talk.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
1. Shawn Horcoff (value debatable)
2. Ales Hemsky (pick + mid-level prospect or 3rd line winger)
3. Eric Belanger (bad draft pick)
4. Ben Eager (bad draft pick)
5. Rights to Linus Omark (bad draft pick)
6. Theo Peckham (bad draft pick)
7. Colten Teubert (bad draft pick)
8. Ryan Martindale (bad draft pick)
9. Curtis Hamilton (bad draft pick)
10. Phillippe Cornet (bad draft pick)
11. Alex Plante (really bad draft pick)




I'll give you a game-worn Yuri Khymylev jersey for any one of these clowns.



Whatever deal falls into MacT's lap for any one of these guys, he should jump on before they change their mind.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 15 @ 11:15 AM ET
I think you value EDM prospects/players like Clouts does
- TheNugeIsHuge


In some ways but I can back my opinion if you would like. I do think Eberle is an elite player. I do think he will play for Team Canada at the Olympics. That is the caliber of player we are talking about.

As for Klefbom. I have only seen him play half a game. I am going of TSN articles, prospect ranking sites. This guy is suppose to be our best prospect and I don't remember a site that doesn't think he won't be a 1-2 player eventually. That is big.

My point is, everyone has a price. Everyone player in the league can be had by the Oilers. It is just that the price is too much for our young guys. Someone might pay it but just like us getting a star from another team, you over pay for the real talent.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
Guys, newmy was trolling cloutier not oiler fans. We all know cloutier is setting expectations quite high for klefbom.

Anyways. News that joacim Ericsson out of the SEL, a flyers pick, will sign with an nhl team. 23 years old and great numbers. Be a nice pickup for us.
Tapdog
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:26 AM ET
Guys, newmy was trolling cloutier not oiler fans. We all know cloutier is setting expectations quite high for klefbom.

Anyways. News that joacim Ericsson out of the SEL, a flyers pick, will sign with an nhl team. 23 years old and great numbers. Be a nice pickup for us.

- ystoil

Report is that he has signed with Vancouver. Zero for two on the goalie front so far
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:27 AM ET
Report is that he has signed with Vancouver. Zero for two on the goalie front so far
- Tapdog


Balls!
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'll give you a game-worn Yuri Khymylev jersey for any one of these clowns.



Whatever deal falls into MacT's lap for any one of these guys, he should jump on before they change their mind.

- Powerslave


He was wicked in NHL 94, great on the one-timer
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
He was wicked in NHL 94, great on the one-timer
- BigDre





You are right! The big Euro-train with the one-timer, set up by LaFontaine.

newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
It doesnt offend me, I am explaining to you why you get the reactions you do. But your reply to me shows your true colours...I have not insulted you but you think you need to tell me to grow up.

I don't give a fug what you say personally because I don't generally respond to your idiocy...but don't act like you are an innocent here, you get what you deserve from the posters in Oiler threads until you come in and ONLY initiate hockey talk.

- OilHorse



Well I guess that goes for you as well since you continue to act like a 2yr old yourself.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
Guys, newmy was trolling cloutier not oiler fans. We all know cloutier is setting expectations quite high for klefbom.

Anyways. News that joacim Ericsson out of the SEL, a flyers pick, will sign with an nhl team. 23 years old and great numbers. Be a nice pickup for us.

- ystoil



Thankyou, that's exactly who it was directed at & innocent enough however apparently some don't understand.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 15 @ 11:49 AM ET
Thankyou, that's exactly who it was directed at & innocent enough however apparently some don't understand.
- newmy

Maybe try PMing clouts though or tweeting at him, it's not like he reads most of these comments anyways. Which means he starts the troll war, and we just get a message board full of trolling posts.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Maybe try PMing clouts though or tweeting at him, it's not like he reads most of these comments anyways. Which means he starts the troll war, and we just get a message board full of trolling posts.
- Morris



Agreed!! That was certainly not my intention however some don't understand.
Jumanji
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:01 PM ET
" Couldnt care how good I play, have you seen how many followers I have on twitter" - Ryan Whitney
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