That'd be awesome. That way he could offer "a day at the range shooting with Thomas" as his end of the year charity auction deal!
- FlyersGrace

Thomas, if he comes back, will command a nice salary from someone. I doubt they sign a UFA goalie, but I won't bet against it either.

You miss out on his 2009-10 playoff production, though: 30 points in 23 games. You also miss his 2007-08 playoff production: 16 points in 17 games. And maybe, without his signing, Timonen and Hartnell don't sign after their rights were acquired. Briere's signing showed the league the Flyers were seriously about a quick turnaround.
- Flyskippy

Sure, but that's assuming nobody would step up in his absence. Richards was a great PO performer in his own right (just as consistent as Briere), Giroux turned out to be money in the bank, Gagne scored a few huge PO goals, JvR had his outstanding run.

And remember, even with Briere being great in the PO's, they still only came within spitting distance of the prize once... and that was just as much a product of having Pronger, and Leighton/Bouch playing above their heads, as it was b/c Briere was going nuts that summer.

As for Briere being proof of the Flyers' intentions... that's good point, especially since Kimmo came out and said it played a part in forgoing the UFA market. But, the Flyers' reputation as a perennial go-for-it team was established well in advance of Briere.

No. What has Hamilton proved?
- coffee junkie

that he hasn't been a norris trophy contender yet...therefore untouchable.

Just think all of the injuries that wouldn't have happened if the Flyers had a different trainer?
- MJL

They need 23 trainers, one for each player on the roster. There goes the first row behind the Flyers bench to make room, but it has to be done.

I think if the flyers can get streit signed he might be the catalyst needed for this d-corps. He can play on the top two pairings, take a load off Kimo, and provide that 2nd pp unit presence they desperately need. Not a bunch of Norris candidates but a pretty solid group now. Plus they didn't give up that much to get him.

Sure, but that's assuming nobody would step up in his absence. Richards was a great PO performer in his own right (just as consistent as Briere), Giroux turned out to be money in the bank, Gagne scored a few huge PO goals, JvR had his outstanding run.

And remember, even with Briere being great in the PO's, they still only came within spitting distance of the prize once... and that was just as much a product of having Pronger, and Leighton/Bouch playing above their heads, as it was b/c Briere was going nuts that summer.

As for Briere being proof of the Flyers' intentions... that's good point, especially since Kimmo came out and said it played a part in forgoing the UFA market. But, the Flyers' reputation as a perennial go-for-it team was established well in advance of Briere.
- Tomahawk

Sounds like a lot of credit should be going to Homer there for pulling that all together.

As to the "absence," who were they going to get to do what Briere did? Umberger? Upshall?

I can't say I'm in love with the Streit. I suppose he would solve the huge loss of Matt Carle by being able to move the puck and bring some offense from the back end. The downside is he's not great defensively, he's over 35 and I'm really hoping he's not expected to be our next Kimmo Timonen because he won't be.

I'm saying No to Jagr. I would definitely say yes to Iginla if the Flyers could say yes to Streit.

The Flyers need to add more then they need to subtract with the exception of the Briere/Bryzgalov buyouts. I'm all for a splash if the Flyers can swing it. The Philadelphia Flyers are a rather popular team as far as stars and studs. I for one woud like to keep things interesting to some extent and bring in a star if possible. If they can't, it doesn't mean I'm gonna jump ship.

They need 23 trainers, one for each player on the roster. There goes the first row behind the Flyers bench to make room, but it has to be done.
- Flyskippy

I think Meszaros may need four just for himself - one for each limb. Better safe than sorry.

I think Meszaros may need four just for himself - one for each limb. Better safe than sorry.
- cmr.266

Can they hit the ice with him?

I really like Meszy and hate that the weird injury bugs have bitten him.

I can't say I'm in love with the Streit. I suppose he would solve the huge loss of Matt Carle by being able to move the puck and bring some offense from the back end. The downside is he's not great defensively, he's over 35 and I'm really hoping he's not expected to be our next Kimmo Timonen because he won't be.

I'm saying No to Jagr. I would definitely say yes to Iginla if the Flyers could say yes to Streit.

The Flyers need to add more then they need to subtract with the exception of the Briere/Bryzgalov buyouts. I'm all for a splash if the Flyers can swing it. The Philadelphia Flyers are a rather popular team as far as stars and studs. I for one woud like to keep things interesting to some extent and bring in a star if possible. If they can't, it doesn't mean I'm gonna jump ship.
- dingo8urbaby

At least Streit can be shielded here by 1) playing on a pairing that won't see other teams' top lines often and 2) playing with a better partner than he saw on Lawn Guyland.

Can they hit the ice with him?

I really like Meszy and hate that the weird injury bugs have bitten him.
- Flyskippy

I don't think he's coming back if they can sign Streit. The Blue line is suddenly getting crowded plus the cap is bearing down.

That'd be awesome. That way he could offer "a day at the range shooting with Thomas" as his end of the year charity auction deal!
- FlyersGrace

So instead of CBO'ing Bryz, we can just have him play the Harry Whittington to Thomas' D!ck Cheney?

Can they hit the ice with him?

I really like Meszy and hate that the weird injury bugs have bitten him.
- Flyskippy

Hey, I don't know of any rule saying that four trainers assigned to one player CAN'T just skate around as a precaution. I'm sure Player's Safety would give it a thumbs up.

Yes. It's a shame because he was once known for being so durable. But, as we both know, this is a business. And that's a fat contract to a guy who hasn't proven to be healthy/productive since his first year with the team. Cold-blooded.

I don't think he's coming back if they can sign Streit. The Blue line is suddenly getting crowded plus the cap is bearing down.
- JoeRussomanno

I know... *sigh*

He's the only Slovak on the team. There was always a slight chance he might attend the Slovak festival my wife's church throws every year...

So instead of CBO'ing Bryz, we can just have him play the Harry Whittington to Thomas' D!ck Cheney?


- Tomahawk

Wrong just so wrong. But you picked up what I was putting down, my friend.
Although I have to admit it might be a good time to go shooting with Timmy.
Guess it's on my brain as I'm headed there tomorrow for "take your daughter to the range day".

Hey, I don't know of any rule saying that four trainers assigned to one player CAN'T just skate around as a precaution. I'm sure Player's Safety would give it a thumbs up.

Yes. It's a shame because he was once known for being so durable. But, as we both know, this is a business. And that's a fat contract to a guy who hasn't proven to be healthy/productive since his first year with the team. Cold-blooded.
- cmr.266

I could pretty much copy/paste my last response to JoeR and put it here.

All right, lunch is over. See you guys on my phone!

I think if the flyers can get streit signed he might be the catalyst needed for this d-corps. He can play on the top two pairings, take a load off Kimo, and provide that 2nd pp unit presence they desperately need. Not a bunch of Norris candidates but a pretty solid group now. Plus they didn't give up that much to get him.
- JoeRussomanno

My issue is. With this coach, just Bc they get streit, they are no closer to beating teams like bruins/rangers. They are just back to beating up the pens again if anything.

I still expect the stretch passes, our dmen on an island in our zone, same drop passes at the blue line.

Did you see the gaps of the pens forwards and dmen against Boston? Pens and flyers share this philosophy. In the grand scheme of things, we're not all that much closer

I know... *sigh*

He's the only Slovak on the team. There was always a slight chance he might attend the Slovak festival my wife's church throws every year...
- Flyskippy

if it were up to me he'd stay. His luck has to turn for the better in the injury department.

My issue is. With this coach, just Bc they get streit, they are no closer to beating teams like bruins/rangers. They are just back to beating up the pens again if anything.

I still expect the stretch passes, our dmen on an island in our zone, same drop passes at the blue line.

Did you see the gaps of the pens forwards and dmen against Boston? Pens and flyers share this philosophy. In the grand scheme of things, we're not all that much closer
- Just5

True, someone needs to re-play some of our games for Laviolette. EVERY DAY. Until he can figure out how to best utilize our D in his system. EVERY DAY.

As to the "absence," who were they going to get to do what Briere did? Umberger? Upshall?
- Flyskippy

Any one of the younger players could have pulled a Bryan Bickell if given the opportunity.

This team has just been forced to make so many decisions on players based on lack of cap-space and limited minutes, partly because of Briere... I always wonder if they wouldn't have been a better team if they had taken their time w/ the rebuild vs immediately reloading.

My issue is. With this coach, just Bc they get streit, they are no closer to beating teams like bruins/rangers. They are just back to beating up the pens again if anything.

I still expect the stretch passes, our dmen on an island in our zone, same drop passes at the blue line.

Did you see the gaps of the pens forwards and dmen against Boston? Pens and flyers share this philosophy. In the grand scheme of things, we're not all that much closer
- Just5

I'm right there with you. Except I'm hoping Lavy changes things a bit. I think the stretch passes and kamikaze forecheck can be done with the right personnel and in the right situation, just not all the time.

Change of topic, but I had fun thinking of it...

Who do you hate more... Matthew Barnaby, Tie Domi, Sean Avery, or Darcy Tucker.
- youarewrong

Used to love Domi (the Probert fights were great) until the Adam Burt incident. How do you run away from McCarthy and Berube, start hitting Adam Burt while he's held down, literally hide behind Tomas Kaberle from Luke Richardson, try to grab Brian Boucher while Belfour has a hold of him, the run your mouth at McCarthy when the ref has him pinned against the boards, and call yourself a tough guy? Sorry, all respect lost right then and there.

I think I hated Barnaby most. Avery was just a joke, and caused more harm than good to the Rangers, so I'm okay with it. Darcy Tucker was a punk, but he was at least pretty honest. Barnaby was pretty much the perfect pest. He had that face you just wanted to hit. Also, when he went after Garth Snow after being "hurt"...got I wanted someone to knock out those 2 teeth that had the Sabres tattoos on them.

if it were up to me he'd stay. His luck has to turn for the better in the injury department.
- JoeRussomanno

You might get your wish if other teams want someone like Coburn instead. We lost so many defensemen that I'm greedy with them and hate to give them up. Everyone will get a shot to play!
And I agree Mez was friggin fantastic when healthy...

I think Bryz might agree to a trade. If he's bought out he will get a total of $8.21 million over the next five seasons instead of the $31 million he is due to be paid.

And I don't think he can make up that kind of shortfall by signing as a free agent.
- Feanor

I believe it is 2/3rds of the salary over 2x the years.

He signed a 9 year contract, so he has 7 years left, so that puts his buyout some just shy of $24 million.


So the Flyers would essentially be paying Breezy 1.7 million a year for the next 14 years. The only benefit right now is that it won't count against the cap.

From the Edmonton Journal April 14, 2013.:

If the Philadelphia Flyers want to use one of those amnesty buyouts to say goodbye to Ilya Bryzgalov, owner Ed Snider will not only have to eat about $24 million in salary (two-thirds payout of what’s left on the goalie’s contract), but also admit he made a mistake giving out a nine-year, $51-million deal in the first place.

Snider wanted the quirky goaltender after tiring of their carousel in net in the playoffs with Michael Leighton and Brian Boucher.

Snider is crazy rich — he owns Comcast, which owns NBC — but he’d still have to have Bryzgalov, who turns 33 eight days before the June draft, on his books for 14 years (double the time left on his contract). He would also have to find another goalie.

Change of topic, but I had fun thinking of it...

Who do you hate more... Matthew Barnaby, Tie Domi, Sean Avery, or Darcy Tucker.
- youarewrong

I have to go with Barnaby. I hate the fake teeth, had the smile.... He once shot puck after puck at me and my dad who had glass seats during the whole warm-up skate.