If they did swing a trade for Vinny, which I hope they don't, they would likely keep him around. He'd be Calgary's best centre for at least 2 or 3 years. Either way, his contract is sooo bad, it's not worth it. Then again, Feaster signed him to it so maybe he thinks it's an okay deal.
- tincup

Oh god don't mention that I just got an awful feeling on how feaster could really eff this up by having a lil Tampa ten year reunion in cowtown

Trade a 1st for vinny
Trade our 6th and Sven for brad Richards
Trade backlund for khabibulins right
Trade Brodie a 1st and reinhart for Dan Boyle
Fire Hartley and hire torts

The ghosts of 04 come back to haunt the flames
Feaster sells this as a winning group
Spends draft weekend at a KFC

I'm not sure about these ideas of trading a player that will then be bought out. GM's would really have to trust that the buyout will happen. If they trade the guy and he doesn't get bought out, then retires the team would get hit with the recapture penalty.
- Iggysbff

the recapture rule is so dumb ... You trade a player and that player should have no ties to the team that traded him ... Guess it is a way to sway teams from signing these rediculous contracts

Forget Vinny. What about trading for Heater? The Wild could use the breathing room going into this year, and might be willing to package something with him to get rid of that contract. Then he could be flipped at the deadline.

the recapture rule is so dumb ... You trade a player and that player should have no ties to the team that traded him ... Guess it is a way to sway teams from signing these rediculous contracts
- Redmile247

No need to really sway them anymore with term max at 7-8 yrs. It was specifically designed to penalize teams that signed them in the past. NHL's version of "you signed them to it? You pay pay for it! FU" kind of thing.

Can't blame ya for sticking with family
Me on the other hand.... From bc ... Moms a leafs fan dads a nucks fan ... Yet I chose flames

Go figure lol
- Redmile247

That's what we call a decision to maintain balance!
Seriously though, your parents must've been at eachother during the 90s when the Leafs were out west. You made the right choice choosing neither.

No need to really sway them anymore with term max at 7-8 yrs. It was specifically designed to penalize teams that signed them in the past. NHL's version of "you signed them to it? You pay pay for it! FU" kind of thing.
- Iggysbff

That's a fair point
Doesn't hurt oil or flames so I guess it's not that dumb

That's what we call a decision to maintain balance!
Seriously though, your parents must've been at eachother during the 90s when the Leafs were out west. You made the right choice choosing neither.
- mykokes

Very balanced !
It's funny ... In 94 mom picked dads side in round one , but after round 3 things changed .... 04 she was on my side haha

If they did swing a trade for Vinny, which I hope they don't, they would likely keep him around. He'd be Calgary's best centre for at least 2 or 3 years. Either way, his contract is sooo bad, it's not worth it. Then again, Feaster signed him to it so maybe he thinks it's an okay deal.
- tincup

Untrue! Feaster resigned in Tampa because he didn't want to offer that outrageous contract.

How about a trade with Tampa for the third pick. Take on vinny's contract and buy him out. In the long run it would be worth it in the long run to get a franchise player.
- Flames1977

Vinny isn't going anywhere via buyout or trade. The only way the #3 pick moves is for a young NHL-ready or already in the NHL d-man

Forget Vinny. What about trading for Heater? The Wild could use the breathing room going into this year, and might be willing to package something with him to get rid of that contract. Then he could be flipped at the deadline.
- takeyourvitamins

Now this makes sense. Vinny actually plays a big part of Tampa's team. Heatley is gone from Minny, it's just a question of how and for whom

Now this makes sense. Vinny actually plays a big part of Tampa's team. Heatley is gone from Minny, it's just a question of how and for whom
- uf1910

No one questions vinnys role or value to the bolts ... It's his contract ... He is signed far too long and although right now it doesn't hurt them a few years down the road it very well could

No one questions vinnys role or value to the bolts ... It's his contract ... He is signed far too long and although right now it doesn't hurt them a few years down the road it very well could
- Redmile247

Exactly. This is precisely the reason you have teams like Chicago talking about buying out Hossa as well. If you don't do it now when you have the chance, it will surely bite you in the ass in a few years...

Sure sounds like Feaster is going to do whatever it takes to move up. He made it sound like a couple teams were willing and a couple were not. I sure hope Florida is one that will.

If they did swing a trade for Vinny, which I hope they don't, they would likely keep him around. He'd be Calgary's best centre for at least 2 or 3 years. Either way, his contract is sooo bad, it's not worth it. Then again, Feaster signed him to it so maybe he thinks it's an okay deal.
- tincup

Feaster didn't sign him to it. In fact, it was the owners insistence that he offer that contract to Vinny that made him quit the Lightning.

Do the flames brass and fans have faith in Brossoit? I personally think the kid is gonna be very good.
- blacksheep1

It seems everyone is approaching him with cautious optimism. He's a goalie, so who knows how his development goes. If they don't throw too much on him to quickly, I think he'll be good.

Sure sounds like Feaster is going to do whatever it takes to move up. He made it sound like a couple teams were willing and a couple were not. I sure hope Florida is one that will.
- whipper334

Letang/Glass for a 1st Round Pick(the highest one)/Glencross/Giordano

Feaster admits it is a rebuild!! Good.
Ken king moving on to something new with the flames and new president of hockey operations taking over?? Dream come true in cow town if it happens

Feaster admits it is a rebuild!! Good.
Ken king moving on to something new with the flames and new president of hockey operations taking over?? Dream come true in cow town if it happens
- Flames1977

Brian Burke to the rescue?

Unless they can get #2 for mackinon, I hope they can trade with Carolina to get nisch. Then take Monahan at 6.

A late 1st with one of tangs/cammy/Hudler could do it. Might have to be gio, but then they should keep their late first and send another pick with him

Baert/Monahan/nisch for a future line please

If they aren't able to move into top 5, they will use their number 6 on the best center available. And with that I think the better offensive one should be the pick. I've seen some say that some players are better "two way centers", but I don't think that should be a focus in trying to get the future number 1 center. Unless it is somebody like Toews of Datsyuk, the majority of the number 1 centers are not known for their "two way" ability. Not to say they are bad at it, but it definitely was not their focus.

I would rank them as Barkov, Monahan, then Lindholm.

What about for their second pick trying to get a player like Anthony Mantha out of Val-d'Or. 50 goal scorer and a big body (6'4, 190 lbs). I've seen him listed for both wings. Seems like the start for a solid power forward.

The forwards need some size, physicality, and it would be nice to get that with some finishing skill. He's also an older player who only missed last year's draft by one day. So he may be closer to being ready for the big leagues. Makes for a start to fill the Iginla void. Maybe kind of a Lucic type player.

He's been ranked between 16 and 24 (depending on which scouting report), so he may not fall to the 22nd pick. But may be worth moving up a couple spots to try and grab him.

For the last pick I think they should take the best defenceman available, and preferably something more defensive then offensive. Maybe a Mirco Mueller, or John Morrissy. Do not pick a Goaile. Need to see how some of the many prospects there pan out (Rammo, Barra, Brousoit, Gilles), before higher draft picks are spent there.

Granted I hope to move up more in the draft (MacKinnon is the dream), but if that doesn't work, then this is my thoughts for a best plan.
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Brian Burke to the rescue?
- LeftCoaster

First name surfacing seems like Brendan Shanahan.

Letang/Glass for a 1st Round Pick(the highest one)/Glencross/Giordano
- Orpik44

Would love to have Letang, Gio & your 28th pick back isn't a bad deal & we have no issues paying him good $$$ for an extension. It's just doesn't seem like the right move right now, we have just started a rebuild & Letang would be kind of wasted. If we give up Gio or Wideman + a later 1st, I would prefer it to be going after a team's (Carolina) 1st pick in the top 10.

Hope you guys resign Iggy. If I were Iggy, who doesn't have a financial worry in the world, even if he may be getting dissected with a potential marital split, I wuld go to Pitt say sign me up for 2 years @ 3.0mill per & play whatever line they deem fit & go try to win a cup with Sid & Gino.

Exactly. This is precisely the reason you have teams like Chicago talking about buying out Hossa as well. If you don't do it now when you have the chance, it will surely bite you in the ass in a few years...
- Iggysbff

Can the same team resign the player they just bought out?

Can the same team resign the player they just bought out?
- ystoil

No. They would have to wait a year before they could resign that player, similar to the signing to match an offer sheet on a RFA, that team cant trade the player until after 1 year. There is also talk in a scenario we were debating here to trade for someone like Vinny, buy him out & then he can go back & resign with Tampa. That could get scrutinized with the league & would hate to lose a 1st rounder because of something like that.

Unless they can get #2 for mackinon, I hope they can trade with Carolina to get nisch. Then take Monahan at 6.

A late 1st with one of tangs/cammy/Hudler could do it. Might have to be gio, but then they should keep their late first and send another pick with him

Baert/Monahan/nisch for a future line please
- numbear

To get in the top 5 it will take more then that
To get a top 3 it will cost the 6th ++