Why would you eliminate Adams and guess JP based on what you said?
- druryisclutch

because he was on here calling stuff before adams was hired (and called the adams hiring) soooooo...

Never said Stastny would get Myers, said a deal based around those two. I understand that Myers has more value but it's not considerably more.

Miller is a great goalie, not disputing that, but the Avs have invested a good amount in Varly and he fits the dynamic of the Avs very well, ie young, still developing, good cap hit and an RFA when it's done. If the Avs were a legitimate cup contender next season it would make sense but that is not the case, their defense is horrendous. Fix that first then go after a star goalie if Varly still hasn't developed into a legit starting goalie.

Absolutely anything can be had at the right price but Roy did say, on RDS, that he won't be trading out of the top 3, maybe top 4 unless it was an offer he absolutely could not refuse ie a massive overpayment. Think of it this way, when was the last time the team picking 1st overall not only traded that pick but dropped down out of the top 3/4...it doesn't happen and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's because the cost would be ridiculous
- silence22

Exactly. Kevin Devine saying on local radio that Darcy has talked with the Avs is nothing more than opening up the opportunity for Darcy to say after the draft that he tried to move up but just couldn't do it. It won't happen.

because he was on here calling stuff before adams was hired (and called the adams hiring) soooooo...
- battelmt

I could be wrong, but I think Adams was working with the team in a volunteer asst capacity for a year or two before he was actually hired as an assistant.

I could be wrong, but I think Adams was working with the team in a volunteer asst capacity for a year or two before he was actually hired as an assistant.
- druryisclutch

correct, pretty much as soon as he hung them up.

Exactly. Kevin Devine saying on local radio that Darcy has talked with the Avs is nothing more than opening up the opportunity for Darcy to say after the draft that he tried to move up but just couldn't do it. It won't happen.
- druryisclutch

i dont understand why so many ppl feel nothing will happen. since TP has taken over we have been one of the most active teams in terms of transactions- i dont agree with all the moves- but they have been vary active and even bold on occasion.

it was really only during the penny pinching golisano era -when darcy had to nail every move perfectly- that the wheels grinded to a halt.

I could be wrong, but I think Adams was working with the team in a volunteer asst capacity for a year or two before he was actually hired as an assistant.
- druryisclutch

oooo- forgot about that. possible then.

And then to think Toronto fans think our prices are a cake walk.
- Buffalo--Sabres

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...Hurting-For-Cash/67/52109

Exactly. Kevin Devine saying on local radio that Darcy has talked with the Avs is nothing more than opening up the opportunity for Darcy to say after the draft that he tried to move up but just couldn't do it. It won't happen.
- druryisclutch

This is exactly what it is. We'll get a lot of quotes from him where he talks about how the "market wasn't there" and how "future cap evaluations" and "changing dynamic shifts in the sport" meant that moves weren't availeble.

Mean while other teams will make significant moves to get what they needed.

Man I can't stand Darcy.

hell id do that and just go to the sabs game sell the rest.

Bolts tickets are cheap to...... told the story here a bunch of times but my beer was more expensive than the tix
- hubie

If I lived closer to Tampa, I'd get season tickets. I'll stick to the Solar Bears.

i dont understand why so many ppl feel nothing will happen. since TP has taken over we have been one of the most active teams in terms of transactions- i dont agree with all the moves- but they have been vary active and even bold on occasion.

it was really only during the penny pinching golisano era -when darcy had to nail every move perfectly- that the wheels grinded to a halt.
- battelmt

If Pegula and Devine tell Darcy to get the #1 then it will happen. Darcy is lose/lose at this draft anyway you look at it, he'll get hammered if he over trades for the #1 and he'll get hammered if he stands pat. It's funny because if Darcy was fired and a new GM was brought in and way overpaid for the #1 everyone would hail him for his aggressiveness.

Double post.

If Pegula and Devine tell Darcy to get the #1 then it will happen. Darcy is lose/lose at this draft anyway you look at it, he'll get hammered if he over trades for the #1 and he'll get hammered if he stands pat. It's funny because if Darcy was fired and a new GM was brought in and way overpaid for the #1 everyone would hail him for his aggressiveness.
- buffalokb

I dont want the Number 1. It is going to cost too much. I would rather keep the 8 & 16 and then Trade Van and Miller for 1's this year. ALA

8
12(PHX) Miller
16
18(DET) Vanek

or

8
12 (PHX) Miller
16
19&27 (CBJ) Vanek + a 2nd

I don't think there's any way Buffalo gets the 1st overall pick without giving up Miller and Myers in a package. Not saying it'd be those 2 for the pick, but whatever packages went either way, hard to imagine those two not going to Colorado. The Avalanche need help on the backend and in goal. If you don't satisfy their top needs why would they trade the 1st overall pick?

I don't think there's any way Buffalo gets the 1st overall pick without giving up Miller and Myers in a package. Not saying it'd be those 2 for the pick, but whatever packages went either way, hard to imagine those two not going to Colorado. The Avalanche need help on the backend and in goal. If you don't satisfy their top needs why would they trade the 1st overall pick?
- KB3Point0

Thats exactly why I do not want it. The cost is going to be too much.

If Pegula and Devine tell Darcy to get the #1 then it will happen. Darcy is lose/lose at this draft anyway you look at it, he'll get hammered if he over trades for the #1 and he'll get hammered if he stands pat. It's funny because if Darcy was fired and a new GM was brought in and way overpaid for the #1 everyone would hail him for his aggressiveness.
- buffalokb

I will get pissed if he gives all that up for the #1.. there is no reason why he can't get another 1st rounder but I don't see the need to get the top overall pick.. with three 1st round picks you can take a few solid picks and a high risk/reward type guy that you hope pans out. I think they should be able to get some solid players out of keeping what they have and trading for additional picks.

I don't think there's any way Buffalo gets the 1st overall pick without giving up Miller and Myers in a package. Not saying it'd be those 2 for the pick, but whatever packages went either way, hard to imagine those two not going to Colorado. The Avalanche need help on the backend and in goal. If you don't satisfy their top needs why would they trade the 1st overall pick?
- KB3Point0

well if you put it that way.. Miller and Sekera for the 1st overall..

Never said Stastny would get Myers, said a deal based around those two. I understand that Myers has more value but it's not considerably more.

Miller is a great goalie, not disputing that, but the Avs have invested a good amount in Varly and he fits the dynamic of the Avs very well, ie young, still developing, good cap hit and an RFA when it's done. If the Avs were a legitimate cup contender next season it would make sense but that is not the case, their defense is horrendous. Fix that first then go after a star goalie if Varly still hasn't developed into a legit starting goalie.

Absolutely anything can be had at the right price but Roy did say, on RDS, that he won't be trading out of the top 3, maybe top 4 unless it was an offer he absolutely could not refuse ie a massive overpayment. Think of it this way, when was the last time the team picking 1st overall not only traded that pick but dropped down out of the top 3/4...it doesn't happen and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's because the cost would be ridiculous
- silence22

Actually, none of this will happen anyway, because our GM sucks.

Actually, none of this will happen anyway, because our GM sucks.
- Powerslave

sucks what?

Vanek to Nashville for #4---Select Aleksander Barkov
Miller and #16 to Edmonton for #7, 4th Round in '14, and Magnus Paajarvi--- Select Elias Lindholm and Rasmus Ristolainen.
Stafford and Sekera to Columbus for #27 and Dalton Smith (age 20, enforcer)
Select Ian McCoshen

sucks what?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Vanek to Nashville for #4---Select Aleksander Barkov
Miller and #16 to Edmonton for #7, 4th Round in '14, and Magnus Paajarvi--- Select Elias Lindholm and Rasmus Ristolainen.
Stafford and Sekera to Columbus for #27 and Dalton Smith (age 20, enforcer)
Select Ian McCoshen
- Jawallstar1

you can wish in one hand and crap in the other.. which do you think fills up faster?

HAHA...

Mr. Connery, your response is 'Craven Morehead'......Mr. Connery, WHO is Craven Morehead??
Looks like you are Trebek!!
- leonwaldo420

The task was to write down a number and despite your best efforts V is actully the roman numeral for 5. So you are correct, lets see what you wagered....

Texas with a dollar sign....simply stunning

Look its cool that youre clinging to his ass for whatever reason, just admit it.

He most certainly did NOT call every MAJOR event that has happened in relation the Sabres.

He missed out on Hodgson for Kassian.
He missed out on Gaustad to Nashville.
He missed out on Pominville.
He missed out on Ruff getting fired.
He missed out on Grigorenko being sent back to JR's.
He missed out on Leopold.

He was able to say "something is about to go down" 15 minutes before Ott for Roy, but gave no details as to what it was that was about to go down. Garth had that scoop a week prior, its written in his blogs.

He was able to call Regher to LA, which had been rumored for over a week by various major media. Ended up getting the two 2nd round pick years wrong too.

Who didnt know Adam was going to be sent down? He went from zero to hero. His role was diminished.

We all knew Grigorenko was going to start the season, no sense in giving credit for that...

We miss your inside info Homer, come back!
- theblueandgold

For someone that doesn't appreciate his input, you sure pay a lot of attention to what he writes lol.

And I know what I've seen from him since I've been part of our group here, so I'm not going to argue back and forth over it. I appreciate it for what it is and that's about it. If you don't want to pay attention to it then just ignore it.

Thats exactly why I do not want it. The cost is going to be too much.
- ImThatGuy

Agreed!
Trade Miller and Vanek to 2 separate teams, and get the best possible picks for them, and draft for the future!
To hell with the 1st overall pick, IMO!

Vanek to Nashville for #4---Select Aleksander Barkov
Miller and #16 to Edmonton for #7, 4th Round in '14, and Magnus Paajarvi--- Select Elias Lindholm and Rasmus Ristolainen.
Stafford and Sekera to Columbus for #27 and Dalton Smith (age 20, enforcer)
Select Ian McCoshen
- Jawallstar1

1. without an extension in place, Nashville doesn't go anywhere near that. And they don't want to be completely out of the 1st round either. It would have to be Vanek +16 for 4 + whatever

2. Miller wouldn't get you 7th overall that's just the reality of it. Despite being an outstanding goalie and being under appreciated here, his value is at an all time low no thanks to his cap hit. When you consider that Edmonton isn't contending next year, I doubt Miller becomes a priority for them.

3. I don't think they'd want Stafford all that much but if they believe he can be a 20 goal scorer for them then the value is good here and I'd definitely be all over that.