You are talking/posting like I did last summer. He was untouchable, the Sabres should not trade him etc, but after last season, my belief that he can't be traded has faded. For the 1st pick overall, Myers can be traded and without doubt he is in the conversations to move up into the top 3. He has to be because the Sabres only have so many valuable players and he hasn't sh*t on himself enough yet to deter other teams from wanting him.
- GilPerreault11

yMyers to move up the most 7 spots?

Put the bong away

Well if the deep draft of 2003 is any indication: we get to draft a coburn type at 8 and a Bernier type at 16.
- RynoBull

Which is why we need to trade up

Well if the deep draft of 2003 is any indication: we get to draft a coburn type at 8 and a Bernier type at 16.
- RynoBull

Or we could trade
Bernier
Coburn
Myers
Grigo
McNabb
For Marc Andre Fluery.

i may be mistaken but i think they were refrenceing the blog where it said Duchene would be in the mix too
- hubie

You are mistaken, any center from the Avs being referenced in a trade is either Stastny or RoR once he can be traded in Feb...

Although anyone can be traded, Duchene and Landeskog are the only two Avs who are as close to untouchable as you can get

You are talking/posting like I did last summer. He was untouchable, the Sabres should not trade him etc, but after last season, my belief that he can't be traded has faded. For the 1st pick overall, Myers can be traded and without doubt he is in the conversations to move up into the top 3. He has to be because the Sabres only have so many valuable players and he hasn't sh*t on himself enough yet to deter other teams from wanting him.
- GilPerreault11

Who would want Myers?

A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games last season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.


Just saying[url]A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games this season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.

http://www.cbssports.com/...-be-scratched-for-buffalo

Because the crows on Hockeybuzz keep cawing about how it will happen. Everyone on here is linked somehow to the orgainzation which is has created a grassroots movement that has influenced the powers that be in the Sabres organization. This power surge has made its way to Colorado where the Av's senior management has succomed to the power of the anonymous voice of Sabre fans on Hockeybuzz.
- RynoBull

Through synergy we will change the face of the Sabres.

yMyers to move up the most 7 spots?

Put the bong away
- 716buffalo

Stop watching NFL Live and reading Profootballtalk, the NHL draft isn't like the NFL's. It takes a lot to move up into the top 3 from #8 in the NHL draft. There is a drop off in talent after the top 2-3, then another dropoff after 5 or 6.

You are mistaken, any center from the Avs being referenced in a trade is either Stastny or RoR once he can be traded in Feb...
- silence22

I dont read the awful blogs so I didnt knwo jsut seemed to be the name people mentioned then avs fans such as yourself (or maybe you for all I know) said no chance

Who would want Myers?

A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games last season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.


Just saying
- RynoBull[url]A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games this season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.

http://www.cbssports.com/...-be-scratched-for-buffalo

Negative Nancy award today goes to Ryno! Kidding bud!

Sorry i got busy of work but my two cents is people have bad years. Myers had one for apparently not working out enough and whatever other reasons. He has a chance to bounce back and I am sure some GM's believe that.

I am glad Homer is back at it but why are we ripping on him constantly. A joke or two and move onto next guy please!

We actually should be mad at Darcy instead of anyone else! Priorities people!

(hides quickly)

Stop watching NFL Live and reading Profootballtalk, the NHL draft isn't like the NFL's. It takes a lot to move up into the top 3 from #8 in the NHL draft. There is a drop off in talent after the top 2-3, then another dropoff after 5 or 6.
- GilPerreault11

http://www.broadstreethoc...aft-pick-value-trading-up

I think it's going to take an overpay to pry that pick out of the Avs hands.
- GilPerreault11

Then you don't do it.

If this years draft is anything like this one we have to trade Miller and Vanek for more picks this year. If we pick right We could almost build a whole team with all the picks. More picks please.


2003 NHL Entry Draft
Drafts -> NHL -> Entry -> 2003
This is the list of players selected in the 2003 NHL Entry draft. There were 292 prospects selected across 9 rounds. Also included is each player's career NHL totals. If a player has no totals listed, this means that he has not played in a regular season game in the NHL. You can click on the headings of the tables to sort the information.

Round 1 NHL Totals
Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
1 1 Pittsburgh Marc-Andre Fleury G Cape Breton Screaming Eagles [QMJHL] 467 0 12 12 38
1 2 Carolina Eric Staal C Peterborough Petes [OHL] 690 268 359 627 531
1 3 Florida Nathan Horton C Oshawa Generals [OHL] 591 198 204 402 543
1 4 Columbus Nikolai Zherdev R CSKA Moscow [Russia] 421 115 146 261 225
1 5 Buffalo Thomas Vanek R U. of Minnesota [WCHA] 585 250 238 488 358
1 6 San Jose Milan Michalek L Ceske Budejovice HC [Czech] 549 170 185 355 300
1 7 Nashville Ryan Suter D U.S. Junior National Team [Intl] 590 42 228 270 420
1 8 Atlanta Braydon Coburn D Portland Winter Hawks [WHL] 493 31 109 140 425
1 9 Calgary Dion Phaneuf D Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 600 106 234 340 801
1 10 Montreal Andrei Kostitsyn R CSKA Moscow [Russia] 398 103 119 222 181
1 11 Philadelphia Jeff Carter C Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds [OHL] 564 228 182 410 320
1 12 NY Rangers Hugh Jessiman R Dartmouth College [ECAC] 2 0 0 0 5
1 13 Los Angeles Dustin Brown R Guelph Storm [OHL] 641 181 207 388 452
1 14 Chicago Brent Seabrook D Lethbridge Hurricanes [WHL] 599 56 190 246 467
1 15 NY Islanders Robert Nilsson C Leksands IF [SEL] 252 37 81 118 90
1 16 San Jose Steve Bernier R Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 464 85 95 180 230
1 17 New Jersey Zach Parise C U. of North Dakota [WCHA] 550 212 236 448 193
1 18 Washington Eric Fehr R Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL] 306 57 56 113 100
1 19 Anaheim Ryan Getzlaf C Calgary Hitmen [WHL] 556 152 369 521 533
1 20 Minnesota Brent Burns D Brampton Battalion [OHL] 564 75 165 240 379
1 21 Boston Mark Stuart D Colorado College [WCHA] 428 19 40 59 459
1 22 Edmonton Marc-Antoine Pouliot C Rimouski Oceanic [QMJHL] 192 21 36 57 76
1 23 Vancouver Ryan Kesler C Ohio State University [CCHA] 578 157 193 350 513
1 24 Philadelphia Mike Richards C Kitchener Rangers [OHL] 575 163 262 425 510
1 25 Florida Anthony Stewart R Kingston Frontenacs [OHL] 262 27 44 71 123
1 26 Los Angeles Brian Boyle C St. Sebastian's [Mass. H.S.] 309 46 36 82 255
1 27 Los Angeles Jeff Tambellini L U. of Michigan [CCHA] 242 27 36 63 88
1 28 Anaheim Corey Perry R London Knights [OHL] 574 220 245 465 736
1 29 Ottawa Patrick Eaves R Boston College [H-East] 414 72 69 141 145
1 30 St. Louis Shawn Belle D Tri-City Americans [WHL] 20 0 1 1 2

Round 2
Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2 31 Carolina Danny Richmond D U. of Michigan [CCHA] 49 0 3 3 75
2 32 Pittsburgh Ryan Stone C Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL] 35 0 7 7 55
2 33 Dallas Loui Eriksson L Frolunda Jrs (Sweden) 501 150 207 357 114
2 34 Tampa Bay Mike Egener D Calgary Hitmen [WHL]
2 35 Nashville Konstantin Glazachev L Yaroslavl Lokomotiv [Russia]
2 36 Dallas Vojtech Polak R Karlovy Vary HC [Czech] 5 0 0 0 0
2 37 Nashville Kevin Klein D Toronto St. Michael's Majors [OHL] 356 15 64 79 89
2 38 Florida Kamil Kreps C Brampton Battalion [OHL] 232 18 42 60 71
2 39 Calgary Tim Ramholt D Zurich [Swiss-A] 1 0 0 0 0
2 40 Montreal Cory Urquhart C Montreal Rocket [QMJHL]
2 41 Tampa Bay Matt Smaby D Shattuck St. Mary's (Minn) 122 0 6 6 106
2 42 New Jersey Petr Vrana C Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL] 16 1 0 1 2
2 43 San Jose Josh Hennessy C Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 23 1 0 1 6
2 44 Los Angeles Konstantin Pushkarev R Ust-Kamenogorsk Torpedo [Rus-1] 17 2 3 5 8
2 45 Boston Patrice Bergeron C Acadie-Bathurst Titan [QMJHL] 579 153 280 433 180
2 46 Columbus Dan Fritsche C Sarnia Sting [OHL] 256 34 42 76 103
2 47 San Jose Matt Carle D River City Lancers [USHL] 519 37 187 224 171
2 48 NY Islanders Dmitri Chernykh R Voskresensk Khimik [Rus-1]
2 49 Nashville Shea Weber D Kelowna Rockets [WHL] 528 108 183 291 417
2 50 NY Rangers Ivan Baranka D Dubnica Jrs. (Slovakia) 1 0 1 1 0
2 51 Edmonton Colin McDonald R New England Jr. Coyotes (EJHL) 52 8 10 18 32
2 52 Chicago Corey Crawford G Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 152 0 1 1 6
2 53 NY Islanders Evgeny Tunik C Elektrostal Elemash [Rus-1]
2 54 Dallas B.J. Crombeen R Barrie Colts [OHL] 332 28 36 64 692
2 55 Florida Stefan Meyer L Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL] 20 0 2 2 17
2 56 Minnesota Patrick O'Sullivan L Mississauga IceDogs [OHL] 334 58 103 161 116
2 57 Toronto John Doherty D Phillips-Andover (Mass.)
2 58 NY Islanders Jeremy Colliton C Prince Albert Raiders [WHL] 57 3 3 6 26
2 59 Chicago Michal Barinka D Ceske Budejovice HC [Czech] 34 0 2 2 26
2 60 Vancouver Marc-Andre Bernier R Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL]
2 61 Montreal Maxim Lapierre C Montreal Rocket [QMJHL] 463 54 59 113 476
2 62 St. Louis David Backes R Lincoln Stars [USHL] 494 132 168 300 663
2 63 Colorado Dave Liffiton D Plymouth Whalers [OHL] 7 1 0 1 26
2 64 Detroit Jim Howard G U. of Maine [H-East] 234 0 5 5 12
2 65 Buffalo Branislav Fabry R Bratislava Jrs. (Slovakia)
2 66 Boston Masi Marjamaki L Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 1 0 0 0 0
2 67 Ottawa Igor Mirnov F Moscow Dynamo [Russia]
2 68 Edmonton Jean-Francois Jacques L Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL] 166 9 8 17 197

Who would want Myers?

A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games last season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.


Just saying
- RynoBull[url]A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games this season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.

http://www.cbssports.com/...-be-scratched-for-buffalo

Im not entirely sure youre even reading it properly because I looked it up and his Team GA per 60 min of Tyler Myers being on the ice is 2.84 which ranks him like 38th amongst defensemen who played at least 20 games.

Who would want Myers?

A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games last season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.


Just saying
- RynoBull[url]A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games this season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.

http://www.cbssports.com/...-be-scratched-for-buffalo

Myers was beyond horrible last season. He was outplayed by Rudy and Pysyk. That alone is so inexcuseable I would openly welcome a salary dump but just giving him away. I don't even care what he
"becomes". 7 million once to be the worst D-man in the league is enough.

If this years draft is anything like this one we have to trade Miller and Vanek for more picks this year. If we pick right We could almost build a whole team with all the picks. More picks please.


2003 NHL Entry Draft
Drafts -> NHL -> Entry -> 2003
This is the list of players selected in the 2003 NHL Entry draft. There were 292 prospects selected across 9 rounds. Also included is each player's career NHL totals. If a player has no totals listed, this means that he has not played in a regular season game in the NHL. You can click on the headings of the tables to sort the information.

Round 1 NHL Totals
Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
1 1 Pittsburgh Marc-Andre Fleury G Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
- devereau[QMJHL] 467 0 12 12 38
1 2 Carolina Eric Staal C Peterborough Petes [OHL] 690 268 359 627 531
1 3 Florida Nathan Horton C Oshawa Generals [OHL] 591 198 204 402 543
1 4 Columbus Nikolai Zherdev R CSKA Moscow [Russia] 421 115 146 261 225
1 5 Buffalo Thomas Vanek R U. of Minnesota [WCHA] 585 250 238 488 358
1 6 San Jose Milan Michalek L Ceske Budejovice HC [Czech] 549 170 185 355 300
1 7 Nashville Ryan Suter D U.S. Junior National Team [Intl] 590 42 228 270 420
1 8 Atlanta Braydon Coburn D Portland Winter Hawks [WHL] 493 31 109 140 425
1 9 Calgary Dion Phaneuf D Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 600 106 234 340 801
1 10 Montreal Andrei Kostitsyn R CSKA Moscow [Russia] 398 103 119 222 181
1 11 Philadelphia Jeff Carter C Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds [OHL] 564 228 182 410 320
1 12 NY Rangers Hugh Jessiman R Dartmouth College [ECAC] 2 0 0 0 5
1 13 Los Angeles Dustin Brown R Guelph Storm [OHL] 641 181 207 388 452
1 14 Chicago Brent Seabrook D Lethbridge Hurricanes [WHL] 599 56 190 246 467
1 15 NY Islanders Robert Nilsson C Leksands IF [SEL] 252 37 81 118 90
1 16 San Jose Steve Bernier R Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 464 85 95 180 230
1 17 New Jersey Zach Parise C U. of North Dakota [WCHA] 550 212 236 448 193
1 18 Washington Eric Fehr R Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL] 306 57 56 113 100
1 19 Anaheim Ryan Getzlaf C Calgary Hitmen [WHL] 556 152 369 521 533
1 20 Minnesota Brent Burns D Brampton Battalion [OHL] 564 75 165 240 379
1 21 Boston Mark Stuart D Colorado College [WCHA] 428 19 40 59 459
1 22 Edmonton Marc-Antoine Pouliot C Rimouski Oceanic [QMJHL] 192 21 36 57 76
1 23 Vancouver Ryan Kesler C Ohio State University [CCHA] 578 157 193 350 513
1 24 Philadelphia Mike Richards C Kitchener Rangers [OHL] 575 163 262 425 510
1 25 Florida Anthony Stewart R Kingston Frontenacs [OHL] 262 27 44 71 123
1 26 Los Angeles Brian Boyle C St. Sebastian's [Mass. H.S.] 309 46 36 82 255
1 27 Los Angeles Jeff Tambellini L U. of Michigan [CCHA] 242 27 36 63 88
1 28 Anaheim Corey Perry R London Knights [OHL] 574 220 245 465 736
1 29 Ottawa Patrick Eaves R Boston College [H-East] 414 72 69 141 145
1 30 St. Louis Shawn Belle D Tri-City Americans [WHL] 20 0 1 1 2

Round 2
Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2 31 Carolina Danny Richmond D U. of Michigan [CCHA] 49 0 3 3 75
2 32 Pittsburgh Ryan Stone C Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL] 35 0 7 7 55
2 33 Dallas Loui Eriksson L Frolunda Jrs (Sweden) 501 150 207 357 114
2 34 Tampa Bay Mike Egener D Calgary Hitmen [WHL]
2 35 Nashville Konstantin Glazachev L Yaroslavl Lokomotiv [Russia]
2 36 Dallas Vojtech Polak R Karlovy Vary HC [Czech] 5 0 0 0 0
2 37 Nashville Kevin Klein D Toronto St. Michael's Majors [OHL] 356 15 64 79 89
2 38 Florida Kamil Kreps C Brampton Battalion [OHL] 232 18 42 60 71
2 39 Calgary Tim Ramholt D Zurich [Swiss-A] 1 0 0 0 0
2 40 Montreal Cory Urquhart C Montreal Rocket [QMJHL]
2 41 Tampa Bay Matt Smaby D Shattuck St. Mary's (Minn) 122 0 6 6 106
2 42 New Jersey Petr Vrana C Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL] 16 1 0 1 2
2 43 San Jose Josh Hennessy C Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 23 1 0 1 6
2 44 Los Angeles Konstantin Pushkarev R Ust-Kamenogorsk Torpedo [Rus-1] 17 2 3 5 8
2 45 Boston Patrice Bergeron C Acadie-Bathurst Titan [QMJHL] 579 153 280 433 180
2 46 Columbus Dan Fritsche C Sarnia Sting [OHL] 256 34 42 76 103
2 47 San Jose Matt Carle D River City Lancers [USHL] 519 37 187 224 171
2 48 NY Islanders Dmitri Chernykh R Voskresensk Khimik [Rus-1]
2 49 Nashville Shea Weber D Kelowna Rockets [WHL] 528 108 183 291 417
2 50 NY Rangers Ivan Baranka D Dubnica Jrs. (Slovakia) 1 0 1 1 0
2 51 Edmonton Colin McDonald R New England Jr. Coyotes (EJHL) 52 8 10 18 32
2 52 Chicago Corey Crawford G Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 152 0 1 1 6
2 53 NY Islanders Evgeny Tunik C Elektrostal Elemash [Rus-1]
2 54 Dallas B.J. Crombeen R Barrie Colts [OHL] 332 28 36 64 692
2 55 Florida Stefan Meyer L Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL] 20 0 2 2 17
2 56 Minnesota Patrick O'Sullivan L Mississauga IceDogs [OHL] 334 58 103 161 116
2 57 Toronto John Doherty D Phillips-Andover (Mass.)
2 58 NY Islanders Jeremy Colliton C Prince Albert Raiders [WHL] 57 3 3 6 26
2 59 Chicago Michal Barinka D Ceske Budejovice HC [Czech] 34 0 2 2 26
2 60 Vancouver Marc-Andre Bernier R Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL]
2 61 Montreal Maxim Lapierre C Montreal Rocket [QMJHL] 463 54 59 113 476
2 62 St. Louis David Backes R Lincoln Stars [USHL] 494 132 168 300 663
2 63 Colorado Dave Liffiton D Plymouth Whalers [OHL] 7 1 0 1 26
2 64 Detroit Jim Howard G U. of Maine [H-East] 234 0 5 5 12
2 65 Buffalo Branislav Fabry R Bratislava Jrs. (Slovakia)
2 66 Boston Masi Marjamaki L Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 1 0 0 0 0
2 67 Ottawa Igor Mirnov F Moscow Dynamo [Russia]
2 68 Edmonton Jean-Francois Jacques L Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL] 166 9 8 17 197

Sweet Pick!

Well if the deep draft of 2003 is any indication: we get to draft a coburn type at 8 and a Bernier type at 16.
- RynoBull

sooooo-

- eveyone on here who think the sabres will trade up are crows

and

- if we stay put we will get the next coburn/bernier

hmm.

Myers was beyond horrible last season. He was outplayed by Rudy and Pysyk. That alone is so inexcuseable I would openly welcome a salary dump but just giving him away. I don't even care what he
"becomes". 7 million once to be the worst D-man in the league is enough.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Our defense struggled a lot because of our incapable forward lines defensive play as well.

It begins with Hodgson and Ennis when they were the 1-2 at center. Hodgson could not handle any defensive responsibility what so ever. Ennis was terrible when he was put out there to help defend the lead.

I wont even go into how terrible our 3rd and 4th lines were.

Who would want Myers?

A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games last season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.


Just saying
- RynoBull[url]A few things to consider (all numbers via behindthenet.ca):

• In his 11 games this season, the Sabres are allowing 5.39 goals per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is the worst mark for any defenseman in the NHL who has played a mininum of five games. And no other defenseman is close. That is bad.

• The Sabres are allowing 31.6 shots per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play with him on the ice. That is 12th worst in the NHL. That also is bad.

• When Myers is on the ice, only 43 percent of the total shot attempts belong to the Sabres, which means they're probably spending more time in their own end than they are in the opposition's end.

• Making those numbers even worse is that the Sabres have sheltered him a bit, starting him in the offensive zone more than 53 percent of the time and not asking him to go up against other team's top lines.

That makes his poor play look even worse.

http://www.cbssports.com/...-be-scratched-for-buffalo

You forgive you and forget. Wasn't long ago when Drew Doughty was on the s*&% list in LA when he held out in 2011 and demanded $7MM a year. Came into the season totally out of shape and had a season low 36 pts. Terry Murray gets fired half way through the season and next thing you know Doughty becomes the player he should be under Sutter.

Our defense struggled a lot because of our incapable forward lines defensive play as well.

It begins with Hodgson and Ennis when they were the 1-2 at center. Hodgson could not handle any defensive responsibility what so ever. Ennis was terrible when he was put out there to help defend the lead.

I wont even go into how terrible our 3rd and 4th lines were.
- theblueandgold

so are you syaing there is a correlation between giving up goals and having players who cant play defense?

Our defense struggled a lot because of our incapable forward lines defensive play as well.

It begins with Hodgson and Ennis when they were the 1-2 at center. Hodgson could not handle any defensive responsibility what so ever. Ennis was terrible when he was put out there to help defend the lead.

I wont even go into how terrible our 3rd and 4th lines were.
- theblueandgold

Thats true too. Having your top 3 centers 23, 22 and 18 years old, none of which are known for defensive skill was a terrible idea.

Or we could trade
Bernier
Coburn
Myers
Grigo
McNabb
For Marc Andre Fluery.
- sbroads24

Valid point, but I would counter we would not draft a goalie at #1. We would draft Staal.

You forgive you and forget. Wasn't long ago when Drew Doughty was on the s*&% list in LA when he held out in 2011 and demanded $7MM a year. Came into the season totally out of shape and had a season low 36 pts. Terry Murray gets fired half way through the season and next thing you know Doughty becomes the player he should be under Sutter.
- buffalokb

i have a feeling a BIG reason RR was retained was his potential effect on 57...

If this years draft is anything like this one we have to trade Miller and Vanek for more picks this year. If we pick right We could almost build a whole team with all the picks. More picks please.


2003 NHL Entry Draft
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This is the list of players selected in the 2003 NHL Entry draft. There were 292 prospects selected across 9 rounds. Also included is each player's career NHL totals. If a player has no totals listed, this means that he has not played in a regular season game in the NHL. You can click on the headings of the tables to sort the information.

Round 1 NHL Totals
Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
1 1 Pittsburgh Marc-Andre Fleury G Cape Breton Screaming Eagles
- devereau[QMJHL] 467 0 12 12 38
1 2 Carolina Eric Staal C Peterborough Petes [OHL] 690 268 359 627 531
1 3 Florida Nathan Horton C Oshawa Generals [OHL] 591 198 204 402 543
1 4 Columbus Nikolai Zherdev R CSKA Moscow [Russia] 421 115 146 261 225
1 5 Buffalo Thomas Vanek R U. of Minnesota [WCHA] 585 250 238 488 358
1 6 San Jose Milan Michalek L Ceske Budejovice HC [Czech] 549 170 185 355 300
1 7 Nashville Ryan Suter D U.S. Junior National Team [Intl] 590 42 228 270 420
1 8 Atlanta Braydon Coburn D Portland Winter Hawks [WHL] 493 31 109 140 425
1 9 Calgary Dion Phaneuf D Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 600 106 234 340 801
1 10 Montreal Andrei Kostitsyn R CSKA Moscow [Russia] 398 103 119 222 181
1 11 Philadelphia Jeff Carter C Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds [OHL] 564 228 182 410 320
1 12 NY Rangers Hugh Jessiman R Dartmouth College [ECAC] 2 0 0 0 5
1 13 Los Angeles Dustin Brown R Guelph Storm [OHL] 641 181 207 388 452
1 14 Chicago Brent Seabrook D Lethbridge Hurricanes [WHL] 599 56 190 246 467
1 15 NY Islanders Robert Nilsson C Leksands IF [SEL] 252 37 81 118 90
1 16 San Jose Steve Bernier R Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 464 85 95 180 230
1 17 New Jersey Zach Parise C U. of North Dakota [WCHA] 550 212 236 448 193
1 18 Washington Eric Fehr R Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL] 306 57 56 113 100
1 19 Anaheim Ryan Getzlaf C Calgary Hitmen [WHL] 556 152 369 521 533
1 20 Minnesota Brent Burns D Brampton Battalion [OHL] 564 75 165 240 379
1 21 Boston Mark Stuart D Colorado College [WCHA] 428 19 40 59 459
1 22 Edmonton Marc-Antoine Pouliot C Rimouski Oceanic [QMJHL] 192 21 36 57 76
1 23 Vancouver Ryan Kesler C Ohio State University [CCHA] 578 157 193 350 513
1 24 Philadelphia Mike Richards C Kitchener Rangers [OHL] 575 163 262 425 510
1 25 Florida Anthony Stewart R Kingston Frontenacs [OHL] 262 27 44 71 123
1 26 Los Angeles Brian Boyle C St. Sebastian's [Mass. H.S.] 309 46 36 82 255
1 27 Los Angeles Jeff Tambellini L U. of Michigan [CCHA] 242 27 36 63 88
1 28 Anaheim Corey Perry R London Knights [OHL] 574 220 245 465 736
1 29 Ottawa Patrick Eaves R Boston College [H-East] 414 72 69 141 145
1 30 St. Louis Shawn Belle D Tri-City Americans [WHL] 20 0 1 1 2

Round 2
Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2 31 Carolina Danny Richmond D U. of Michigan [CCHA] 49 0 3 3 75
2 32 Pittsburgh Ryan Stone C Brandon Wheat Kings [WHL] 35 0 7 7 55
2 33 Dallas Loui Eriksson L Frolunda Jrs (Sweden) 501 150 207 357 114
2 34 Tampa Bay Mike Egener D Calgary Hitmen [WHL]
2 35 Nashville Konstantin Glazachev L Yaroslavl Lokomotiv [Russia]
2 36 Dallas Vojtech Polak R Karlovy Vary HC [Czech] 5 0 0 0 0
2 37 Nashville Kevin Klein D Toronto St. Michael's Majors [OHL] 356 15 64 79 89
2 38 Florida Kamil Kreps C Brampton Battalion [OHL] 232 18 42 60 71
2 39 Calgary Tim Ramholt D Zurich [Swiss-A] 1 0 0 0 0
2 40 Montreal Cory Urquhart C Montreal Rocket [QMJHL]
2 41 Tampa Bay Matt Smaby D Shattuck St. Mary's (Minn) 122 0 6 6 106
2 42 New Jersey Petr Vrana C Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL] 16 1 0 1 2
2 43 San Jose Josh Hennessy C Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 23 1 0 1 6
2 44 Los Angeles Konstantin Pushkarev R Ust-Kamenogorsk Torpedo [Rus-1] 17 2 3 5 8
2 45 Boston Patrice Bergeron C Acadie-Bathurst Titan [QMJHL] 579 153 280 433 180
2 46 Columbus Dan Fritsche C Sarnia Sting [OHL] 256 34 42 76 103
2 47 San Jose Matt Carle D River City Lancers [USHL] 519 37 187 224 171
2 48 NY Islanders Dmitri Chernykh R Voskresensk Khimik [Rus-1]
2 49 Nashville Shea Weber D Kelowna Rockets [WHL] 528 108 183 291 417
2 50 NY Rangers Ivan Baranka D Dubnica Jrs. (Slovakia) 1 0 1 1 0
2 51 Edmonton Colin McDonald R New England Jr. Coyotes (EJHL) 52 8 10 18 32
2 52 Chicago Corey Crawford G Moncton Wildcats [QMJHL] 152 0 1 1 6
2 53 NY Islanders Evgeny Tunik C Elektrostal Elemash [Rus-1]
2 54 Dallas B.J. Crombeen R Barrie Colts [OHL] 332 28 36 64 692
2 55 Florida Stefan Meyer L Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL] 20 0 2 2 17
2 56 Minnesota Patrick O'Sullivan L Mississauga IceDogs [OHL] 334 58 103 161 116
2 57 Toronto John Doherty D Phillips-Andover (Mass.)
2 58 NY Islanders Jeremy Colliton C Prince Albert Raiders [WHL] 57 3 3 6 26
2 59 Chicago Michal Barinka D Ceske Budejovice HC [Czech] 34 0 2 2 26
2 60 Vancouver Marc-Andre Bernier R Halifax Mooseheads [QMJHL]
2 61 Montreal Maxim Lapierre C Montreal Rocket [QMJHL] 463 54 59 113 476
2 62 St. Louis David Backes R Lincoln Stars [USHL] 494 132 168 300 663
2 63 Colorado Dave Liffiton D Plymouth Whalers [OHL] 7 1 0 1 26
2 64 Detroit Jim Howard G U. of Maine [H-East] 234 0 5 5 12
2 65 Buffalo Branislav Fabry R Bratislava Jrs. (Slovakia)
2 66 Boston Masi Marjamaki L Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 1 0 0 0 0
2 67 Ottawa Igor Mirnov F Moscow Dynamo [Russia]
2 68 Edmonton Jean-Francois Jacques L Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL] 166 9 8 17 197

WOW if we could get 8 picks in the first two rounds we should be able to land atleast 3 of these guys.

Im not entirely sure youre even reading it properly because I looked it up and his Team GA per 60 min of Tyler Myers being on the ice is 2.84 which ranks him like 38th amongst defensemen who played at least 20 games.
- theblueandgold

That was published when he got benched in Feb.

You forgive you and forget. Wasn't long ago when Drew Doughty was on the s*&% list in LA when he held out in 2011 and demanded $7MM a year. Came into the season totally out of shape and had a season low 36 pts. Terry Murray gets fired half way through the season and next thing you know Doughty becomes the player he should be under Sutter.
- buffalokb

Flaw I see here is Rolston is not Sutter.