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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 8:56 AM ET
Not interested in wasting a year of his ELC on the 4th line playing next to Rosehill and Rinaldo.

I don't think another year of juniors will benefit him (or hurt him), but it will benefit the team.

Re-sign Hall and have Holmstrom waiting in line in Adirondack.

/Really, really hate the U-20 AHL rule.

- bradleyc4


Laughton has gotten all he can get out of playing Junior at this point. Let him start the season centering the Flyers 4th line and seeing some time on the PK. So what if he only gets 8-10 mins per game. He will learn more in those 8-10 mins and in practicing with the Flyers then he will in playing a 4th year in the OHL.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:58 AM ET
Laughton has gotten all he can get out of playing Junior at this point. Let him start the season centering the Flyers 4th line and seeing some time on the PK. So what if he only gets 8-10 mins per game. He will learn more in those 8-10 mins and in practicing with the Flyers then he will in playing a 4th year in the OHL.
- BiggE


No doubt in my mind
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 14 @ 9:00 AM ET
Sure lot of Nervous Nelly talk overnight:

1) Worry over Streit: someone (sorry, on my phone and it's hard to scroll around & find the post) put it succinctly that he will not have to do as much here as he did on Lawn Guyland. That is to both his and the Flyers' benefit.

2) The Pens' farm is stronger than the Flyers'. So what? It's because the Flyers' products are all up with the big team. You can't have it both ways: youth in quantities on the NHL roster and on the Phantoms/juniors. Last I checked they still have Ghost, Cousins, Laughton, Leier, etc. are still reported on here by Bill -- as are the youngsters still on the Seravalling NHL roster.

I thought this is Philadelphia: Go bold or go home. The Flyers go bold. Because they aim to win.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:01 AM ET
is he any good at faceoffs? i felt like hall's faceoff ability made an immediate positive impact on puck possession but i don't follow those advanced stats...
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Yes, he is a good face-off guy and good forechecker.

Hall's face-off % with the Flyers was 59%.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
Yes, he is a good face-off guy and good forechecker.

Hall's face-off % with the Flyers was 59%.

- bradleyc4



If he can develop into a face-off man, that would be an improvement on the fourth line. In seven NHL games over the last two years, his record in the face-off circle is 20-for-46 (43%).

i'm tired of ifs
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:05 AM ET
Sure lot of Nervous Nelly talk overnight:

1) Worry over Streit: someone (sorry, on my phone and it's hard to scroll around & find the post) put it succinctly that he will not have to do as much here as he did on Lawn Guyland. That is to both his and the Flyers' benefit.

2) The Pens' farm is stronger than the Flyers'. So what? It's because the Flyers' products are all up with the big team. You can't have it both ways: youth in quantities on the NHL roster and on the Phantoms/juniors. Last I checked they still have Ghost, Cousins, Laughton, Leier, etc. are still reported on here by Bill -- as are the youngsters still on the Seravalling NHL roster.

I thought this is Philadelphia: Go bold or go home. The Flyers go bold. Because they aim to win.

- Flyskippy


en fuego.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:06 AM ET
Not interested in wasting a year of his ELC on the 4th line playing next to Rosehill and Rinaldo.

I don't think another year of juniors will benefit him (or hurt him), but it will benefit the team.

Re-sign Hall and have Holmstrom waiting in line in Adirondack.

/Really, really hate the U-20 AHL rule.

- bradleyc4


I agree. What's so bad about going back to junior?

He's not a carton of milk. It's not like he's going to expire.

I hope he goes back to junior and wrecks shop in the OHL next year.

The only way I'd like to see him back here in Philly is if they do something like trade one of their other young centers.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:09 AM ET
If he can develop into a face-off man, that would be an improvement on the fourth line. In seven NHL games over the last two years, his record in the face-off circle is 20-for-46 (43%).

i'm tired of ifs

- Don'tForgetTocchet


Who is this referring to?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
I agree. What's so bad about going back to junior?

He's not a carton of milk. It's not like he's going to expire.

I hope he goes back to junior and wrecks shop in the OHL next year.

The only way I'd like to see him back here in Philly is if they do something like trade one of their other young centers.

- johndewar


The kid is a bulldog. I honestly think this preseason and to start the season he's going to be determined to not be sent to junior. I think it will be clear. His game should lend a lot to the play of the 4th line
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
I agree. What's so bad about going back to junior?

He's not a carton of milk. It's not like he's going to expire.

I hope he goes back to junior and wrecks shop in the OHL next year.

The only way I'd like to see him back here in Philly is if they do something like trade one of their other young centers.

- johndewar


I just wish he was eligible for the AHL. That's where he really belongs.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
I agree. What's so bad about going back to junior?

He's not a carton of milk. It's not like he's going to expire.

I hope he goes back to junior and wrecks shop in the OHL next year.

The only way I'd like to see him back here in Philly is if they do something like trade one of their other young centers.

- johndewar

The question I pose... what good does that do for his development?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
I just wish he was eligible for the AHL. That's where he really belongs.
- bradleyc4

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:17 AM ET
I agree. What's so bad about going back to junior?

He's not a carton of milk. It's not like he's going to expire.

I hope he goes back to junior and wrecks shop in the OHL next year.

The only way I'd like to see him back here in Philly is if they do something like trade one of their other young centers.

- johndewar


Agreed. In fact, let's keep him in the OHL as an over-ager 2 years from now. Why are we in such a rush? In fact, let's see if we can let the CHL keep him there until he's about 26; we don't want to burn those ELC years.

To me, give him another 8 game tryout. If he shows he belong sin the NHL, then he stays up. If he's not going to cut it, send him back and you save your precious ELC years and goes and steamrolls a bunch of 17/18 year olds.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:18 AM ET
I just wish he was eligible for the AHL. That's where he really belongs.
- bradleyc4


But he might get bored
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:24 AM ET
I agree. What's so bad about going back to junior?

He's not a carton of milk. It's not like he's going to expire.

I hope he goes back to junior and wrecks shop in the OHL next year.

The only way I'd like to see him back here in Philly is if they do something like trade one of their other young centers.

- johndewar

The opposite of this is how I feel. I want him eased into the NHL and that doesn't happen if he is counted on to be our 3rd line center next year after a big trade that sends a promising young center away. He wold be meat thrown to the dogs in Philly. No thank you! If he looks ready at camp, then let hm anchor the 4th line and move up if/when injuries occur. Best use of his ELC IMHO is to play him when he shows he is ready and make him earn every step of the way up the ladder.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:24 AM ET
The question I pose... what good does that do for his development?
- jak521


He'll have gobs of ice time in key situations. He'll be the unquestioned leader of his team.

I submit he would get more out of that than playing with Jay Rosehill for 8 minutes a night and burning a year of his ELC.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:29 AM ET
He'll have gobs of ice time in key situations. He'll be the unquestioned leader of his team.

I submit he would get more out of that than playing with Jay Rosehill for 8 minutes a night and burning a year of his ELC.

- johndewar


I love how he's playing on a 2-man line with Jay Rosehill, the Flyers will never have any injuries that cause him to move up, will never slide up to fill in on the 3rd line from time to time, and will see no PK time.

Let's keep him in juniors until he can be our #1 center.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:30 AM ET
Agreed. In fact, let's keep him in the OHL as an over-ager 2 years from now. Why are we in such a rush? In fact, let's see if we can let the CHL keep him there until he's about 26; we don't want to burn those ELC years.

To me, give him another 8 game tryout. If he shows he belong sin the NHL, then he stays up. If he's not going to cut it, send him back and you save your precious ELC years and goes and steamrolls a bunch of 17/18 year olds.

- jmatchett383


El Oh El.

One more year of junior hockey will not kill this kid.

Claude Giroux did it when he was 19 as I recall and it worked out OK.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
I love how he's playing on a 2-man line with Jay Rosehill, the Flyers will never have any injuries that cause him to move up, will never slide up to fill in on the 3rd line from time to time, and will see no PK time.

Let's keep him in juniors until he can be our #1 center.

- jmatchett383


Building straw men is fun, I agree.

They have 3 young centers. What's the hurry?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
El Oh El.

One more year of junior hockey will not kill this kid.

Claude Giroux did it when he was 19 as I recall and it worked out OK.

- johndewar

Claude Giroux only played 3 years in the Q.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:37 AM ET
Did we get Seth Jones yet?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:37 AM ET
He'll have gobs of ice time in key situations. He'll be the unquestioned leader of his team.

I submit he would get more out of that than playing with Jay Rosehill for 8 minutes a night and burning a year of his ELC.

- johndewar

Yes, but he will also be playing down in talent.

If he has a good camp, I dont think there is any reason they should send him down..
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:38 AM ET
Claude Giroux only played 3 years in the Q.
- jak521

boomslam! but not actually relevant and shouldn't have been brought up to begin with. They are different players and will develop at different times. 4th line duty would be great for him next year IMHO.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
Did we get Seth Jones yet?
- BulliesPhan87

No but we did get Merlin Malinowski!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
Claude Giroux only played 3 years in the Q.
- jak521


Claude Giroux was 19 years old entering the 2007-08 season playing with Gatineau.

Just as Laughton will be 19 entering this coming season.
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