He made $4.1M last year.

I don't even know if he's worth that to be honest.

I just hope they don't sign him for more than two years.
- stveshdy

he'll get $5.5 what Carle signed for last year more than likely (hope closer to $5 mill)
the term is what I'm a little concerned with (in accordance with age)

I thought that as well, but they are far from finished restructuring, I didn't want streit either but it's like having albeit older Carle back, only maybe better scoring potential.
He will help us not only on the power play, but 5 on 5 & zone breakouts as well
- puckhead17

I hope I am wrong. I want the Flyers to be successful but I'm not sure this move is the right one depending on the contract.

Schenn was playing in Toronto and developed there for the most part. Gustafsson has never been given a full opportunity until they had 10 defenseman go down this year. He would get to play in and out of the lineup.
- stveshdy

Gustafsson didn't get an earlier opportunity because he himself was nursing an ankle injury.

Prior to that he had played stretches in the NHL. Development doesn't necessarily mean playing a regular shift in the NHL.

He made $4.1M last year.

I don't even know if he's worth that to be honest.

I just hope they don't sign him for more than two years.
- stveshdy

That's the market, unfortunately. Coburn's making $4.5, Mez $4.0 and he's better than those two. The guy is durable, captained the Swiss team and the Isles, easily puts up 45 points, heavy shot, good skater. That's what those guys make. 23 minutes a night.

Schenn was playing in Toronto and developed there for the most part. Gustafsson has never been given a full opportunity until they had 10 defenseman go down this year. He would get to play in and out of the lineup.
- stveshdy

What difference does it make that Schenn was playing in Toronto. Are you saying that he is fully developed as a player? Because if not, then he is still developing here. And it's essentially as though the Flyers drafted Schenn with the 2nd pick, instead of JVR.
Gustafsson was injured at the start of last Season, or he probably would have been given a shot. It's not uncommon for young defenseman to be in and out of the lineup. But the Flyers are in fact developing Gustafsson,

I'm not necessarily afraid to move it, but really, I don't know that you have to this year...I think this draft is deep enough that you don't need to outsmart yourself.
- AllInForFlyers

they will get a quality pick, standing pat, but there may be so much moving around this year, everyone in the know is saying a lot of activity will happen.
Streit already fills one hole, so picking a young D man & being patient for a few years will be easier.

Which is my concern with Streit.
- stveshdy

I don't share that concern that Streit will be a bust.

Which is my concern with Streit.
- stveshdy

I don't think he'll bust for one reason: We actually don't need him to do as much as he did in New York.

He's going to be able to pass the puck and trigger the breakout. That's just the player he is. He'll always be able to do that, play on the PP.

But we don't need him to PK. Don't need him to be on the ice in the last minute of a game. Don't really need him to play 20 minutes a night.

Just need him to trigger the offense from the second or third pair -- and if he does that, he really is worth $4.5 million, or more, because we don't have anybody else to do it, and it's not easy to find.

Gustafsson didn't get an earlier opportunity because he himself was nursing an ankle injury.

Prior to that he had played stretches in the NHL. Development doesn't necessarily mean playing a regular shift in the NHL.
- Jsaquella

you done err writing bills?

Gustafsson didn't get an earlier opportunity because he himself was nursing an ankle injury.

Prior to that he had played stretches in the NHL. Development doesn't necessarily mean playing a regular shift in the NHL.
- Jsaquella

I'm talking about developing your defenseman at the NHL level. Allowing the guy to play more than 3-5 games than making him a scratch. Giving the player an opportunity to learn and not worrying about every mistake (that could get you sent down).

The Flyers have taken their time with Gustafsson but at some point your either going to be ready or not. I personally backed Gus up all year because I believe he was ready and just needs the opportunity to play consistently.

Wasn't talking about this year only.

That's the market, unfortunately. Coburn's making $4.5, Mez $4.0 and he's better than those two. The guy is durable, captained the Swiss team and the Isles, easily puts up 45 points, heavy shot, good skater. That's what those guys make. 23 minutes a night.
- cmr.266

that 23 minutes a night is important aspect that also will help us

you done err writing bills?
- puckhead17

I guess it's possible that Holmgren thinks that the reduced cap is just a running, inside joke. A figment of his imagination.

I don't share that concern that Streit will be a bust.
- MJL

We have different opinions.

I guess it's possible that Holmgren thinks that the reduced cap is just a running, inside joke. A figment of his imagination.
- cmr.266

well, ask Ray Shero about that, 18million for 2 players
he's lucky Neal settled for 5 million

that 23 minutes a night is important aspect that also will help us
- puckhead17

Probably a little less here. Give him 21+. It means Timonen can stick to 21 or so and not 23+. And whoever we draft (I'm sure a D man in first 2 rounds) can actually learn from these guys in camp. Plus now that Raffl kid has someone to talk to. Ohh, the intangibles.

We have different opinions.
- stveshdy

Hey this better then Byfuglien!!

all 500 lbs of him

well, ask Ray Shero about that, 18million for 2 players
he's lucky Neal settled for 5 million
- puckhead17

Shero's a genius. Added Iginla, Morrow, Murray and STILL had cap room. He's doing something right... except not scoring against Boston.

Hopefully it works out. I can just see it now two years from now people will be complaining about the contract.

I HOPE IM WRONG THOUGH.

Probably a little less here. Give him 21+. It means Timonen can stick to 21 or so and not 23+. And whoever we draft (I'm sure a D man in first 2 rounds) can actually learn from these guys in camp. Plus now that Raffl kid has someone to talk to. Ohh, the intangibles.
- cmr.266

true, but again, it's still June, they are far from done, if anything this does make us better than we were last year

Hey this better then Byfuglien!!

all 500 lbs of him
- puckhead17

I don't think Byfuglien is an option.

I'm talking about developing your defenseman at the NHL level. Allowing the guy to play more than 3-5 games than making him a scratch. Giving the player an opportunity to learn and not worrying about every mistake (that could get you sent down).

The Flyers have taken their time with Gustafsson but at some point your either going to be ready or not. I personally backed Gus up all year because I believe he was ready and just needs the opportunity to play consistently.

Wasn't talking about this year only.
- stveshdy

Gustafsson signed a 3 year contract that expires next month and has played in the NHL in every year of that contract. He played 30 NHL games in 2011-12, and then 27 last season. He's also battled injuries in each of the last two seasons.

Most guys that sign as undrafted free agents don't play as much in the NHL as quickly as Gustafsson has, and considering the nagging injuries he's dealt with he's been brought along at a pretty good pace.

true, but again, it's still June, they are far from done, if anything this does make us better than we were last year
- puckhead17

Yes. I have a bullet proof plan for them. They're not close to done. You will see both amnesties before the draft.

Shero's a genius. Added Iginla, Morrow, Murray and STILL had cap room. He's doing something right... except not scoring against Boston.
- cmr.266

those guys were easy to add at the deadline just a % is counted at the cap, & really if your a UFA at the deadline, where would you lean to go??
Crosby & malkin make his job a little easy in that respect

Shero's a genius. Added Iginla, Morrow, Murray and STILL had cap room. He's doing something right... except not scoring against Boston.
- cmr.266

You really think so?

I'm not taking a shot at the Pens -- really, I'm not. They were 36-12 this year, won 15 straight games.

But if you're them, why burn a 1st-rounder on Iginla? Why not find a younger winger who can ride shotgun with Crosby for eight years or so?

The experience thing...that's so overrated, and Shero should know that by now.

I don't share that concern that Streit will be a bust.
- MJL

Streit would have led the Flyers defensemen in goals, and would have been second in points, trailing Timonen by 2 points. He's here to be a puck mover and help bring offense from the blue line. Paired with a guy like Coburn, he should be fine.