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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
I'm close to calling Sky Loans myself.


- Flyskippy


Yes, it's expensive. But it's still better than those payday loan shops.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
Mez and 41st(and maybe a later pick) to Calgary for the 28th?

Wideman and Giordano are currently their only D men under contract next year.

- hereticpride


I'd love that to go down, it'd be awesome
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:01 PM ET
I'm close to calling Sky Loans myself.


- Flyskippy


Sarah Silverman looks like crap
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:05 PM ET
Sarah Silverman looks like crap
- Jsaquella

Again?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 13 @ 10:06 PM ET
The flyers are a pretty unlucky franchise.
- twotoekenn

Eric Dejardins rebreaking his arm play catch with his son in 04
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:06 PM ET
Yes, it's expensive. But it's still better than those payday loan shops.


- Scoob

http://thatsthehookup.com...ial-loans-rip-off-report/
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:07 PM ET
Again?
- Flyskippy


I was making a lame joke inferring that the sun loan chick resembles....ah (frank) it.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:07 PM ET
I think Meltz is going to have some great insights during the amnesty buyout period. Should have some interesting options in UFA by the draft.

I posted my Flyers Offseason Outlook - check it out: http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...r_id=202541&post_id=14942

- cmr.266

some good stuff there, though i'd prefer ryder as a scoring forward who's usually a lock for 25 goals and decent 2 way play.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
Eric Dejardins rebreaking his arm play catch with his son in 04
- KINGKENZO

Might've been a boon at that point. By that season, every 2-on-1 when he was the 1, led to a goal against because he always took the puck carrier, leaving the other opponent WIDE OPEN to put the puck into the yawning net while Rico crashed into his goalie (Esche, usually) who looked at him incredulously.

/2000-2004Ricovent
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
i'm judging him overall and i'm seeing a guy, who, kinda like bryz, has had his moments, but ultimately is avg. if this team doesn't show signs of growth this season, he should be gone.
- isaiah520


In my opinion, that is absolutely inaccurate. And that judgement completely loses sight of the big picture. This is a GM who built a team that went to the Cup Finals not that long ago. And then for a variety of reasons, decided to make some pretty big changes in trading the team's top two players. And here we are just one full Season and one shortened Season into that retool or rebuild, or whatever you want to call it. So to suggest that he should be gone, without letting it play out, is preposterous. When the players he obtained in that move, Schenn and Couturier, are just in the infancy of their NHL careers. You knew when those moves were made, that this was going to take some time. And that's not even mentioning the freak injury to the team's franchise defenseman, that is beyond anyone's control. When you look at the overall picture and the facts. It's far better then average.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
I was making a lame joke inferring that the sun loan chick resembles....ah (frank) it.
- Jsaquella

Sorry.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
Shhhhhh! I have long felt that Calgary is the most likely trading partner for the Flyers for Meszaros. But keep that under your hat. We don't want to scare them off.
- AllInForFlyers

feaster famine...
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:09 PM ET
i'm judging him overall and i'm seeing a guy, who, kinda like bryz, has had his moments, but ultimately is avg. if this team doesn't show signs of growth this season, he should be gone.
- isaiah520

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:15 PM ET

- Flyskippy

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 13 @ 10:19 PM ET
Might've been a boon at that point. By that season, every 2-on-1 when he was the 1, led to a goal against because he always took the puck carrier, leaving the other opponent WIDE OPEN to put the puck into the yawning net while Rico crashed into his goalie (Esche, usually) who looked at him incredulously.

/2000-2004Ricovent

- Flyskippy

Didn't he have multiple injuries that year?...just thinking how banged up the D was is sickening.

While we're in a "woe is us"mode, here's a doozy:

Kerrs injury for the 87 Finals
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:20 PM ET
In my opinion, that is absolutely inaccurate. And that judgement completely loses sight of the big picture. This is a GM who built a team that went to the Cup Finals not that long ago. And then for a variety of reasons, decided to make some pretty big changes in trading the team's top two players. And here we are just one full Season and one shortened Season into that retool or rebuild, or whatever you want to call it. So to suggest that he should be gone, without letting it play out, is incredibly premature. When the players he obtained in that move, Schenn and Couturier, are just in the infancy of their NHL careers. And that's not even mentioning the freak injury to the team's franchise defenseman, that is beyond anyone's control. When you look at the overall picture and the facts. It's far better then average.
- MJL

just re-read that a couple of times

that's freakin hilarious. after some initial, really brilliant, success, homer's lost his way. had he just kept carle and JVR last yr, they'd be better off. after the bryz experiment, he's chasing his tail w/ streit, another lead weight big $$ contract for a 1 dimensional 35+ guy. if he can maneuver his way out of this box he put himself in, i'll be the 1st to give him credit.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:22 PM ET
just re-read that a couple of times

that's freakin hilarious. after some initial, really brilliant, success, homer's lost his way. had he just kept carle and JVR last yr, they'd be better off. after the bryz experiment, he's chasing his tail w/ streit, another lead weight big $$ contract for a 1 dimensional 35+ guy. if he can maneuver his way out of this box he put himself in, i'll be the 1st to give him credit.

- isaiah520

*bookmarks*
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:23 PM ET
Didn't he have multiple injuries that year?...just thinking how banged up the D was is sickening.

While we're in a "woe is us"mode, here's a doozy:

Kerrs injury for the 87 Finals

- KINGKENZO

Kerr being out hurt, but Krejci being out for Boston in 2010 helped us. Of course, no Cup in either situation, so trolls-in-fans'-clothing can whine on.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:23 PM ET
Talked to an Islanders fan today at work. Watches every game and says Streit is decent but tries to make too many fancy plays with the puck (turnover prone). Thinks he's not worth the money he's asking for and the Islander would of liked to keep him but not at the price he is demanding.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:24 PM ET
Talked to an Islanders fan today at work. Watches every game and says Streit is decent but tries to make too many fancy plays with the puck (turnover prone). Thinks he's not worth the money he's asking for and the Islander would of liked to keep him but not at the price he is demanding.
- stveshdy

Phew. So, this is a good acquisition.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:27 PM ET
Phew. So, this is a good acquisition.
- Flyskippy


Could be. Depends on the contract.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 13 @ 10:27 PM ET
Kerr being out hurt, but Krejci being out for Boston in 2010 helped us. Of course, no Cup in either situation, so trolls-in-fans'-clothing can whine on.
- Flyskippy

Stick to the script, skip
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:28 PM ET
just re-read that a couple of times

that's freakin hilarious. after some initial, really brilliant, success, homer's lost his way. had he just kept carle and JVR last yr, they'd be better off. after the bryz experiment, he's chasing his tail w/ streit, another lead weight big $$ contract for a 1 dimensional 35+ guy. if he can maneuver his way out of this box he put himself in, i'll be the 1st to give him credit.

- isaiah520


You don't know that they'd be better off. You think they would, but you don't know that. That's the difference. I gave you facts. You're giving assumptions. And in bringing up Streit, you fail to include that adding Streit has a chance to make the Flyers better. Isn't that the GM's job! And let's ignore that trading JVR for Luke Schenn was a very good trade. That's the problem. You've already, before Streit has even played a game. Labeled it a bad move. Talk about hilarious. Streit brings a dimension that the Flyers were badly lacking last year. I'd rather they had kept Carle also, compared to signing Streit. But that's spilt milk.
I'd love for you to quantify this fictitious box you describe. Doesn't exist. Every single year, he puts a solid roster on the ice. This team is loaded with young talent. Again, the changes he made in making the big trades was not going to be an overnight process! Do you deny that? Or did you think that they should be contending by this point in that retool? And I'd also like for you to explain why what you highlighted is funny?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:32 PM ET
Talked to an Islanders fan today at work. Watches every game and says Streit is decent but tries to make too many fancy plays with the puck (turnover prone). Thinks he's not worth the money he's asking for and the Islander would of liked to keep him but not at the price he is demanding.
- stveshdy


Turnovers are a fact of life for defenseman who handle the puck a lot. You take the good with the bad with that type of player.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:37 PM ET
Turnovers are a fact of life for defenseman who handle the puck a lot. You take the good with the bad with that type of player.
- MJL


I agree. However, if he is making more bad decisions than positives that's a concern.
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