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BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 13 @ 4:41 PM ET
What has Nichushkin done or proof that he is the better player than drouin? Or comparable to guys like kopitar or malkin in their younger years playing in the KHL,SEL, etc
- Mapleleafs_91

Didn't Nichushkin score the goal that robbed our Juniors of the bronze this year? And he plays against men in the KHL while Druin plays against kids. I'm not saying one will definitely be better than the other, I'm not qualified to do so. Just my opinion.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 13 @ 4:41 PM ET
Well thats what happens when you will be taking a contract with a caphit for 7.7 for the next 7 years or so
- Mapleleafs_91


They don't NEED to get rid of him. He's still productive.





And I'm willing to bet if he's traded, it's for Luongo.
lister
Joined: 12.20.2006

Jun 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
........... is better than bozak, grabo .....
- Mapleleafs_91


Meh. If the Leafs can't wait for any youngsters (current owned or future from picks) to fill those roles then flip the picks and prospects for a player that will who would be more effective than Lecavalier.

If I was in Nonis' shoes and the Leafs' owners okayed the $$$ spending, I'd do two deals of this sort, one with Tampa and the other with NYI and use the two compliance buyouts on Lecavalier and DePietro. Then either use all those prospects and picks for the roster or flip them all for a proven player like, I don't know, Stamkos. (Weird to be involving Tampa again but I would love to see Stamkos in a Leafs jersey. Man crush! )

Or forget about NYI altogether and just focus on Tampa. Work out a deal such that the Leafs get Vinny to buy out and Vinny resigns with Tampa, ship Stamkos and Tampa's first for Toronto's first this year and next and a few players. I'd be willing to part with Kuley then and whoever else plus likely any prospect other than Reilly.

The Leafs can't outspend any team cap-wise anymore (tanking and drafting a real franchise superstar will never happen) so use that money in ways that can be taken advantage of. Do you think Bettman would block those transactions that help out Tampa and NYI fiscally when those two franchises have been firm supporters of Bettman? Not a chance.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
I bet Tampa are salivating....
- Pecafan Fan

They also get Vinny back at half the salary and a lot less term....
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Did you take a look at this trade proposal?

Vinny Lecavalier + 3rd overall pick (potential franchise player)

in return of a UFA to be, Kulemin who's been terrible for 2 years straight and a bunch of random picks thrown in for good measure.

I mean, Come on...

- Pecafan Fan

3rd Overall Pick for 30 Million, Kulemin- who's been a good defensive forward since he came into the league, and a few picks.


Seems like a pretty good deal for Tampa. Maybe not for their fans, but for the organization itself... pretty damn good.

Kings only got 15 million for Gretzky.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Did you take a look at this trade proposal?

Vinny Lecavalier + 3rd overall pick (potential franchise player)

in return of a UFA to be, Kulemin who's been terrible for 2 years straight and a bunch of random picks thrown in for good measure.

I mean, Come on...

- Pecafan Fan


actually a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lol

if tampa is bleeding money i could see them making a move similar to this

leaf fans need to give up the hope of a top 5 pick tho.. nobody is moving those.

but change the pick into someone like Namestnikov and you might be getting somewhere
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
I totally missed this part of the blog when I didn't read it the first time.

If the Leafs have been instructed to use their financial might then really this is the only way they can achieve it in the Cap world.

I still wonder how the NHL would look at these cash for player deals.

- The Law

So we are back to the Wedgie plan.

Play Vinnie on the top line in 2013-14.

And then at the end of the season, announce you've made a mistake, and buy him out.

Tell Bettman the whole plan beforehand, so he's not blind-sided by it.

Yeah, I'm bad.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:44 PM ET
3rd Overall Pick for 30 Million, Kulemin- who's been a good defensive forward since he came into the league, and a few picks.


Seems like a pretty good deal for Tampa. Maybe not for their fans, but for the organization itself... pretty damn good.

Kings only got 15 million for Gretzky.

- Feeling Glucky?


please stop this nonsense.. only way a top 5 pick gets moved is to move up or down SLIGHTLY at the draft
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
no. you're on drugs. russians are lame. You don't pass up drouin heck drouin is probably better than mackinnon for all you know
- Mapleleafs_91



Drouin is my favourite player in the draft... I am not convinced his game will transfer well to the NHL. He is also the last thing he Leafs need in terms of skillset.... Undersized winger...... we need size, a centre and defensive defenseman
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
more like Pascal Eclaire

ROFLMAOCOPTERs

- Feeling Glucky?


Hey, we shouldn't make jokes at the expense of our veteran backup for next year
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
Didn't Nichushkin score the goal that robbed our Juniors of the bronze this year? And he plays against men in the KHL while Druin plays against kids. I'm not saying one will definitely be better than the other, I'm not qualified to do so. Just my opinion.
- BetterCallSaul


Didn't damigo score that goal to win over canada in the finals years ago? Can't really base that on 1 key goal, even for a bronze.

Can't really say much about him playing with the men in the KHL, since i don't think he is dominating the K, so it is tough to tell, i hate looking at those guys because its basically a gamble.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
They don't NEED to get rid of him. He's still productive.





And I'm willing to bet if he's traded, it's for Luongo.

- Pecafan Fan


Depends on how Vinik's portfolio is doing.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
They don't NEED to get rid of him. He's still productive.





And I'm willing to bet if he's traded, it's for Luongo.

- Pecafan Fan


Yeah because lindback and bishop is not enough to handle the duties
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
So we are back to the Wedgie plan.

Play Vinnie on the top line in 2013-14.

And then at the end of the season, announce you've made a mistake, and buy him out.

Tell Bettman the whole plan beforehand, so he's not blind-sided by it.

Yeah, I'm bad.

- Atomic Wedgie


I'm down. And if a deal like this went through I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Bettman helped push it along. It's just another form of revenue sharing.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
Yeah because lindback and bishop is not enough to handle the duties
- Mapleleafs_91


Lindback sucks.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
Lindback sucks.
- Pecafan Fan


Price sucks
optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
Lindback sucks.
- Pecafan Fan




Bishop is a beaut.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
Lindback sucks.
- Pecafan Fan



So does price at the current moment
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
So does price at the current moment
- jribout


He sure does.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
Didn't damigo score that goal to win over canada in the finals years ago? Can't really base that on 1 key goal, even for a bronze.

Can't really say much about him playing with the men in the KHL, since i don't think he is dominating the K, so it is tough to tell, i hate looking at those guys because its basically a gamble.

- Mapleleafs_91

I'm not arguing you, if this completely spectulative trade actually happened and the Leafs took Druin I wouldn't be unhappy.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
Price sucks
- Mapleleafs_91


So that's how it works?


Rysko81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:54 PM ET
Did you watch any games in this series? We hit 10 posts or more. Don't low ball the Penguins.
- Orpik44

The Leafs hit about 10 a game, whats your point? We would've pumped you guys with the effort you gave.
sloppyseconds2
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.02.2012

Jun 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
combine the two and you get




- Colin Dambrauskas


Instead, we heard this..


optimus-reim
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jun 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm not arguing you, if this completely spectulative trade actually happened and the Leafs took Druin I wouldn't be unhappy.
- BetterCallSaul




Drouin*
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
He sure does.
- Pecafan Fan


Cristobal Huet would solve the habs problems, Rollie Melanson would agree.
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