Corn and Bananas don't grow naturally.



OMG!
- robin_steele264

soon to be extinct.

It's truly amazing that the solution for Alzheimer's disease is simply eating more cheeseburgers, yet nobody is listening to you.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes, that is what i am saying eat more cheeseburgers. You delve to the lowest common denominator.

Lost me.


Anywho.. Look around your surrounding ill bet 80-90% of the stuff around you comes from Oil unless you are living in the forest using a coconut computer.
- robin_steele264

we would survive fine if we started to run out...which wont happen for 1000's years

they want the dependency on oil to keep making $$$$ and driving one of a kind cars to the store

Scientists are actually now certain that non-dietary diabetes is an autoimmune disease.

As for Alzheimer's, you are right about the cholestoral, but there are many instances that also show it is a very epigenetic disease. Meaning, your great grandfather may have come into contact with something that changed a marker in his genes, that gene was passed down to you.

In your example, so many of our fathers/grandfathers that were in the world war's, and malnourished, had the marker turned on (lack of cholestoral), and while it didn't do immediate damage, by the time they got older, the damage had been done. There is a chance that marker has been passed on down to you.
- mykokes

No, he really isn't.

At all.

Studies show that high cholesterol may lead to higher susceptability to Alzheimer's, but they have no idea why.

Hold on though, more people are getting cancer at 30 then ever before. It isn't just old people. More kids are getting more diseases. Alzheimers is a lack of colesteral.
- aminnes

Re alzheimers - Mayo clinic disagrees.

Re cancer - I'll admit, I don't know that stats for people under say 40 - source? If that's true than, subject to the issue about improved diagnosis, that is a scary stat.

ok.. we are debating different things here

you consider medical advancement to add to quality of life

i feel differently. if you need to rely on medicine to prop up your life then science has improved and not overall lifestyle

my point is.. we shouldnt NEED constant third party intervention to maintain a healthy lifestyle.. we should be able to do that on our own.. but we cant.. cause we live in a world where we are given too many poor choices options.

here is a perfect scenario.

beef farmers (large scale) will feed their cattle food that is meant to fatten them up right before they truck them off to the scales. this increases the overall fat content in the beef, which, in turn, makes it far unhealthier.

Due to this practice maintained by large scale cattle farming fat being taken in by the consumer rises, which, starts to raise cholesterol levels, which, in turn require medical attention in many many cases. So, in order to maintain their qualilty of life, people need to help of a medical professional.

WHEREAS

the person who eats organically grain fed beef is eating meat that hasnt been plumped up tp tip the scales. beef that is far leaner and healthier. because this person has taken in 530-50% less fat in their diet (while eating the same meals) they do NOT have to seek the aid of a medical professional to maintain their lifestyle.

obviously i am talking about averages here but you need to face the truth of it.. industrially tampered with foods are not healthy. period.

the same will happen with vegetables.. its just a matter of time til we find out what.
- Dozzer

This.

Dozzer, I'm slammed at work, but I assume you have a garden right? Planted form seeds? Where do you get the seeds, previous plants? Every tomato on the market has in some way or another been genetically modified. I could send you links discussing organic foods, but I'm in the middle of writing an article, and while i can tell my boss I'm promoting the industry and sector and our publication on here, I doubt she'd be happy with that. So I'll pm you later amigo.
- mykokes

thats simply not true.

there are still many existing untampered with strains. thats why they look smaller and not nearly as appetizing.

we would survive fine if we started to run out...which wont happen for 1000's years

they want the dependency on oil to keep making $$$$ and driving one of a kind cars to the store
- senstroll

Consumption keeps going up and up. We won't make it 1000 years.


Again, not that it matters at all to us. The planet will be fried by then.

soon to be extinct.
- mykokes

Was in St. Lucia recently and they still farm them fairly naturally down there (unlike the big companies in Costa Rica) .....I haven't tasted a banana that good in years.

We never said TB was going to buy him out, TB could possibly trade him to a team which would buy him out....so who's doing the wishing?
- JIMI-JAMES

well, in fairness, he didn't say TBay would buy him out. He said he wouldn't be bought out, period.

I agree with him. At this time next year (and through next season), Lecavalier with be a bolt. I'd put that at 98%.

Here's another thing, if they cured some of these diseases the money train stops. If your making a million a year in a research clinic and the disease gets cured, your out of a job. Better to find new ways of treating and keep the money flowing then cure things, that's why Ronald Raegen went overseas to cure his cancer using treatments that are illegal in the west.

ok.. we are debating different things here

you consider medical advancement to add to quality of life

i feel differently. if you need to rely on medicine to prop up your life then science has improved and not overall lifestyle

my point is.. we shouldnt NEED constant third party intervention to maintain a healthy lifestyle.. we should be able to do that on our own.. but we cant.. cause we live in a world where we are given too many poor choices options.

here is a perfect scenario.

beef farmers (large scale) will feed their cattle food that is meant to fatten them up right before they truck them off to the scales. this increases the overall fat content in the beef, which, in turn, makes it far unhealthier.

Due to this practice maintained by large scale cattle farming fat being taken in by the consumer rises, which, starts to raise cholesterol levels, which, in turn require medical attention in many many cases. So, in order to maintain their qualilty of life, people need to help of a medical professional.

WHEREAS

the person who eats organically grain fed beef is eating meat that hasnt been plumped up tp tip the scales. beef that is far leaner and healthier. because this person has taken in 530-50% less fat in their diet (while eating the same meals) they do NOT have to seek the aid of a medical professional to maintain their lifestyle.

obviously i am talking about averages here but you need to face the truth of it.. industrially tampered with foods are not healthy. period.

the same will happen with vegetables.. its just a matter of time til we find out what.
- Dozzer

See that funny little bump on your arm?

That's from the polio vaccine.

Science virtually eradicated it from the Western world.

Before the polio vaccine, it was not a good time if you got polio. Especially if you were a child. It caused malformities.

That's medical advances increasing quality of life.

My grandma got it.
- aminnes

Was she European? ie. men weren't the only ones malnourished in war time, all of Europe was under food rations.....

Not to mention the poopty pans that were used in the 50s and 60s all over the world, so much that we know now. The Ontario Brain Institute and Hotchkiss Centre in Calgary are doing great research on all of this.

No, he really isn't.

At all.

Studies show that high cholesterol may lead to higher susceptability to Alzheimer's, but they have no idea why.
- Atomic Wedgie

and don't eat dairy products that are in contact with aluminum foil

See that funny little bump on your arm?

That's from the polio vaccine.

Science virtually eradicated it from the Western world.

Before the polio vaccine, it was not a good time if you got polio. Especially if you were a child. It caused malformities.

That's medical advances increasing quality of life.
- Atomic Wedgie

The polio vaccine: Made in Canada! Also made in Canada: Insulin! The discovery of Stem Cells by Till and McCulloch.

Consumption keeps going up and up. We won't make it 1000 years.


Again, not that it matters at all to us. The planet will be fried by then.
- robin_steele264

http://www.forbes.com/sit...s-global-cooling-is-here/

read this and then think about all the alarmists and how they never paint a full, broad picture of the earth's temperature history

See that funny little bump on your arm?

That's from the polio vaccine.

Science virtually eradicated it from the Western world.

Before the polio vaccine, it was not a good time if you got polio. Especially if you were a child. It caused malformities.

That's medical advances increasing quality of life.
- Atomic Wedgie

You can't blanket it all based on polio. Yes there are great advances in medicine, but there are also corrupt rich pigs who like to profit - good 'ol donald rumsfeld is one of them, so as much as some advancements have been good, there are others that haven't.

Here's another thing, if they cured some of these diseases the money train stops. If your making a million a year in a research clinic and the disease gets cured, your out of a job. Better to find new ways of treating and keep the money flowing then cure things, that's why Ronald Raegen went overseas to cure his cancer using treatments that are illegal in the west.
- aminnes

Was she European? ie. men weren't the only ones malnourished in war time, all of Europe was under food rations.....

Not to mention the poopty pans that were used in the 50s and 60s all over the world, so much that we know now. The Ontario Brain Institute and Hotchkiss Centre in Calgary are doing great research on all of this.
- mykokes

Nope, she was loaded living in Toronto. Liked to drink though.

Here's another thing, if they cured some of these diseases the money train stops. If your making a million a year in a research clinic and the disease gets cured, your out of a job. Better to find new ways of treating and keep the money flowing then cure things, that's why Ronald Raegen went overseas to cure his cancer using treatments that are illegal in the west.
- aminnes

You want to tell me rates of disease are climbing and are related to our unhealthy lifestyles/diets - I'll debate that.

You want to tell me that the big pharmaceutical corp's are spending too much time making billions on "treatment" rather than on finding cures/improvements - I've got your back all day long.

- Atomic Wedgie

Awe yes, when all else fails ad-hominem.

ok.. we are debating different things here

you consider medical advancement to add to quality of life

i feel differently. if you need to rely on medicine to prop up your life then science has improved and not overall lifestyle

my point is.. we shouldnt NEED constant third party intervention to maintain a healthy lifestyle.. we should be able to do that on our own.. but we cant.. cause we live in a world where we are given too many poor choices options.

here is a perfect scenario.

beef farmers (large scale) will feed their cattle food that is meant to fatten them up right before they truck them off to the scales. this increases the overall fat content in the beef, which, in turn, makes it far unhealthier.

Due to this practice maintained by large scale cattle farming fat being taken in by the consumer rises, which, starts to raise cholesterol levels, which, in turn require medical attention in many many cases. So, in order to maintain their qualilty of life, people need to help of a medical professional.

WHEREAS

the person who eats organically grain fed beef is eating meat that hasnt been plumped up tp tip the scales. beef that is far leaner and healthier. because this person has taken in 530-50% less fat in their diet (while eating the same meals) they do NOT have to seek the aid of a medical professional to maintain their lifestyle.

obviously i am talking about averages here but you need to face the truth of it.. industrially tampered with foods are not healthy. period.

the same will happen with vegetables.. its just a matter of time til we find out what.
- Dozzer

You're still screwed, and eating in-breed cows. ; ) I mean this is a dairy example but....The greatest bull the Holstein breed has ever seen is a Canadian-bred sire by the name of Braedale Goldwyn. With over 31,000 daughters in Canada, Goldwyn was also the first bull in the history of the breed to reach 1,000 Excellent (EX) daughters in Canada. He's been dead five years, but his frozen semen is still making babies lol......no imagine, with over 31,000 daughters, and 1,000's of sire sons.....IN-BREEDING!

The polio vaccine: Made in Canada! Also made in Canada: Insulin! The discovery of Stem Cells by Till and McCulloch.
- mykokes

Joseph Salk was an American from the U of Pittsburgh.

Am I missing something here?

No, he really isn't.

At all.

Studies show that high cholesterol may lead to higher susceptability to Alzheimer's, but they have no idea why.
- Atomic Wedgie

Wrong type of cholesterol, in the wrong part of the body.

See that funny little bump on your arm?

That's from the polio vaccine.

Science virtually eradicated it from the Western world.

Before the polio vaccine, it was not a good time if you got polio. Especially if you were a child. It caused malformities.

That's medical advances increasing quality of life.
- Atomic Wedgie

i never once claimed we should not be using medicine. not once.

you are twisting the argument to suit your point now.

yes, i am calling you on it.

we were discussing the need for medicine improving the quality of life in the context of human food consumption.

its unnecessary.. the only reason its such a massive undertaking is that people are eating worse and worse. chemically and biologically tampered with plants. meat sources fattened up intentionally to tip scales. chemical foods that arent really anything real.

get rid of that nonsense and the strain on the medical community goes away.

now.. admittedly.. that would create a larger world hunger issue. but the sad part is that due to capitalism.. the tech we have that could eradicate world hunger never gets built