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SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
Your all wrong... go to cap geek.... its (the amount paid-cap hit)/years left on contract.......
His Salary over the next 7 years in millions of dollars is 10,10,10,8.5,4,1.5,1

There are no savings when he retires because there is no salary and no cap hit
so if he plays: 3 years (30-(3*7.727)/4(years left) = 1.7 per year
4 years = (38.5-(4*7.7)/3= 2.53 for 3 years
5 years = (42.5-38.635) =1.9325 for 2 years


I long for the day that people quit stating "Facts" before they do the research and argue vehemently about stuff they haven't read up on

- jribout


Jesus Murphy, there is savings when a guy retires because the cap hit comes off the books.

Great attempt though and those numbers are incorrect.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:17 AM ET
when are you comin out to live the dream?
- JIMI-JAMES


....we had plans to come down this summer but our close friends are getting married in about a week in Italy...so all my vacation time and money is going to that!

On top of that...it sounds like my grandmother (as shes getting older) is entertaining selling the cottage we ahve up there. Might consider buying it as its valued at around 40k!!!! and its off the freakn ocean! Close to an acre of land, too. Only problem, is the damn thing is too far to visit often
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:23 AM ET
so.. finished up at the ABC last night at 12:30.. packed up and leaving by 1am.. home at 3:19am.. in bed for 3:30.. up for work at 5:30

yeee (frank)ing haw
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:26 AM ET
so.. finished up at the ABC last night at 12:30.. packed up and leaving by 1am.. home at 3:19am.. in bed for 3:30.. up for work at 5:30

yeee (frank)ing haw

- Dozzer


you get paid?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
you get paid?
- Colin Dambrauskas


the band did

i dont draw money from the band.. i'm a part owner in that regard.. unless it gets to the poijnt where we put the players on salary.. thats the way it goes.. few free beers tho
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
Giving him a long contract sounds like a bad idea. Bad bad.
- robin_steele264

They can always put him on LTIR for "back pain" or some other non-provable ailment.

Still a bad idea, though.

Too bad we aren't fighting them for a playoff spot anymore.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:30 AM ET
the band did

i dont draw money from the band.. i'm a part owner in that regard.. unless it gets to the poijnt where we put the players on salary.. thats the way it goes.. few free beers tho

- Dozzer


oh...but this is something in which you chose to partake?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
oh...but this is something in which you chose to partake?
- Colin Dambrauskas


yeah.. its fun

some people golf.. i play in a band

i only usually sleep 4 hours a night anyways so cutting down to 2 isnt as bad as it sounds for me
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
prime rib steak with freshly caught trout over an open fire with a bunch of beer out in the middle of nowhere beside a lake.....
- JIMI-JAMES

On a somewhat related note:

Has everyone seen the beer commercial (I think it's Moosehead) where the group of young hipsters climb a mountain with a cooler full of bottles of beer?

WTF?

What effing morons bring bottles camping? And to climb a mountain?

Watch out - Atomic Wedgie is in grumpy mode today.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:33 AM ET
yeah.. its fun

some people golf.. i play in a band
i only usually sleep 4 hours a night anyways so cutting down to 2 isnt as bad as it sounds for me

- Dozzer

Alice Cooper does both.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:34 AM ET
Alice Cooper does both.
- Atomic Wedgie

Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:35 AM ET
yeah.. its fun

some people golf.. i play in a band

i only usually sleep 4 hours a night anyways so cutting down to 2 isnt as bad as it sounds for me

- Dozzer


damnit dozzer...how can I slam your response with a sensible response like that!?!?



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:36 AM ET
damnit dozzer...how can I slam your response with a sensible response like that!?!?


- Colin Dambrauskas

I did it.

Try putting in a little effort.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:36 AM ET
yeah.. its fun

some people golf.. i play in a band

i only usually sleep 4 hours a night anyways so cutting down to 2 isnt as bad as it sounds for me

- Dozzer


thats horrible... Sleep is very important, has such a huge impact on your daily life and well being. Something I wont compromise is my delicious sleep.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:38 AM ET
Alice Cooper does both.
- Atomic Wedgie


well thats true.

but comparing me to Alice Cooper would be something like comparing Johnny Hackjob on the Mt Brydges Bulldogs Junior D team to Wendel Clark
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:39 AM ET
On a somewhat related note:

Has everyone seen the beer commercial (I think it's Moosehead) where the group of young hipsters climb a mountain with a cooler full of bottles of beer?

WTF?

What effing morons bring bottles camping? And to climb a mountain?

Watch out - Atomic Wedgie is in grumpy mode today.

- Atomic Wedgie


Few years back I was at a family reunion and the old uncles place we were staying at had a very large man made lake in his backyard. Believe me, its large enough to be considered a freakn lake. Anyways...he had a floating dock about 150 yards or so from shore and we wanted to take beers with us and go sit out on the water for a bit...I cleverly decided to fill a bag with about 6 or 8 beers and attach them to my swimming shorts and swim them over (by that point I was already several beers in). Not only was it one of the most difficult swims ive experienced, but the temp. of the water warmed the beers and they were just barely drinkable.

Good times.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:41 AM ET
damnit dozzer...how can I slam your response with a sensible response like that!?!?


- Colin Dambrauskas


all my posts are sensible..

hasnt stopped you guys before
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:41 AM ET
thats horrible... Sleep is very important, has such a huge impact on your daily life and well being. Something I wont compromise is my delicious sleep.
- senstroll


well.. 6 hours is my max (barring hangovers etc)

anymore than that and i feel like crap all day
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:46 AM ET
Jesus Murphy, there is savings when a guy retires because the cap hit comes off the books.

Great attempt though and those numbers are incorrect.

- SameOld



When he's talking about cap savings, in the context of the cap advantage recapture formula, he's not talking about how much cap comes off the book if a guy retires, he's talking about the year to year amounts that the cap hit is less than salary. You seemed to have flipped over to referring to the amount of cap that comes off the books, if a player retires, as cap savings. That’s not really what we’re talking about in this context.

And his numbers are totally accurate.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:47 AM ET
well.. 6 hours is my max (barring hangovers etc)

anymore than that and i feel like crap all day

- Dozzer


6-8 is good...depends on the person... some function a little better with more some with less... getting more than 9 a night is not good either.

Damn I love sleeping

sleepbuzz.com
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:49 AM ET
It's funny because it's true:

http://www.thestar.com/sp...ruining_sports_kelly.html

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:55 AM ET
6-8 is good...depends on the person... some function a little better with more some with less... getting more than 9 a night is not good either.

Damn I love sleeping

sleepbuzz.com

- senstroll


everything i see online says 7-8 or 7-9 hours

i wouldnt be able to function on that much... i'd be drowsy all day
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 14 @ 9:57 AM ET
It's funny because it's true:

http://www.thestar.com/sp...ruining_sports_kelly.html

- Atomic Wedgie



Haahhahhaa so just because kids with turbans are unable to play but now they are trying to make.them equals to the game are now saying players should wear some head protection? That is the stupidest thing ive ever heard of
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:58 AM ET
Jesus Murphy, there is savings when a guy retires because the cap hit comes off the books.

Great attempt though and those numbers are incorrect.

- SameOld



Hey look here, capgeek.com has a cap advantage recapture calculator. Just found this. And here it is with Vincent Lecavalier, traded this summer, and retiring with two years left on his contract filled in:

http://www.capgeek.com/re...f_season_traded_year=2013


Note:


If Vincent Lecavalier retires or defects in the 2018 off-season (age 38 as of July 1 that year), and was traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs in the 2013 off-season, following is an estimated breakdown of the recapture penalties for the involved teams.
Team Benefit
Penalty


Tampa Bay Lightning (2018-19 through 2019-20) $9,090,909 $4,545,455
Toronto Maple Leafs (2018-19 through 2019-20) $3,863,636 $1,931,818




The penalties, $2M per season for the Leafs, and $4.6M for the Lightning, are EXACTLY what I said in my first post explaining the rule, and the guy that you’re STILL responding to and telling everybody they’re wrong. When it’s YOU that is wrong.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:01 AM ET

Now read that carefully, apologize for arguing like this, and being a pompous little wiener to people who were trying to explain things to you correctly.

- Dirte



not likely to happen...its the internet, people are never wrong..Ever!
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